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    #16
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    I wish the best for you and your family Mrs. Echo and I agree that you and your children need to be your number one focus right now. Thank you for stopping in.
    "Keep your eyes and heart focused on the end goal at all times, and never settle for less."

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      #17
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      uh beaches before i head out for the day i'm changing my avatar but yours is simply going to give me nightmares. lmao. ummmmmm you are scaring me........ bootsie
      :welcome:

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        #18
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        Truly wish the best for you & your children Mrs. Echo. I feel boots is so right about counseling just for yourself. A wise addiction counselor once told me this joke:

        "At an AA meeting how can you tell who is lying?" Answer: "Whoever is moving their lips."

        It's just a fact, part of the disease. Recovered addicts will admit this. And someday when family members are healed they will even be able to joke about it.

        You sound like a very wise mother. Take care.

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          #19
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          Thank you for this, Chrysa.

          Mrs. E., from the bottom of my heart you have, well, my heart.

          m. xx
          ~Are you looking for the Holy One?
          I am in the next seat.
          My shoulder is against yours. ~Kabir

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            #20
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            Hiya Mrs E .... :welcome: to MWO ... nice to have you here ....

            I truly hope that you didn't mean the goodbye as it sounded,

            Determinatrix is a wife if D, and I know that she would be happy to 'talk' to you if you should need any advice .......

            All the best for your family,
            sigpicXXX

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              #21
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              Just remember that there is always hope for you and your family, even though you have already been through so much.

              I won't even begin to compare my story to yours - let's just say that my bottom has been lower than some and higher than others. However, my bottom was in danger of of costing me my family and I so blinded by alcohol that I almost missed it. Like many others on this site, I tried literally hundreds of times to quit on my own, to varying degrees of success.

              You know what though, I was never trying to quit for myself - it was for others. MAN - I LIKED GETTING DRUNK! It temporarily removed all the self-imposed pain I had going on in my life. I finally got to the point where I would call MYSELF an alcoholic, but until I truly conceded in MY MIND that it was true, I was never able to successfully stop drinking. Once I was truly willing to make that admission, I was no longer afraid to take the steps necessary to stay sober.

              Your husband, from reading his posts, is on his way to achieving his own sobriety. If you're like my wife, you greet that statement with quite a bit of skepticism, and I don't blame you. The kids and you have been through so much and all of it was out of your control..... My wife broke down on the day of my son's birthday party, and had pretty much resigned herself to that fact that we would never celebrate another birthday party of his again as a family.

              That was my bottom, and it was only then that I was able to truly come to terms with what I was facing. It was at that point in my life that I (and by extension my family) became more important than the alcohol. The next day I went to an AA meeting and have been going ever since. Was I scared? Hell yes I was - I didn't want the world to know that I had a problem with alcohol. But you know what? It was the best thing I ever did, and I look back on it now and thank God that I went.

              I also thank God that I found this site, as along with my AA program it has allowed my to be sober for over four months (and only four days short of six months). More than just being sober, I am a truly changed person - something my wife will whole-heartedly attest to. I honestly don't think about drinking - I really don't! My life is something I could only dream of six months ago and it seems to get better and better every week. I try to remain humble about it, however, as four months is really just a start and nothing is ever a given.

              I don't say all this to try and make you change your mind - but to let you know that there is hope, that people can change, and you can have that life back again. I pray that your husband continues to live the life that God has planned for him, and I hope that you both find the serenity that you need.

              AAthlete
              (122 days sober, but whose counting.....)
              Sobriety Date: June 15, 2007 -- "It's not having what you want, It's wanting what you've got...."

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                #22
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                If we can answer any specific questions you might have, feel free to ask in a post or by PM'ing any of us.
                We all have something in common here; drinking problems. But, we also want to solve our drinking problems. We are not, however, some fraternity that unilaterally defends one of it's members regardless of the "crime" committed. If someone is wrong, they are wrong and will be called on it, as you have seen.
                Your husband crossed the line, there is no question. However, I think he is doing everything in his power to resolve this situation. There is much work to be done and if it is meant to be, the two of you will survive this and end up stronger and closer than ever.
                Please feel free to utilize this site and the people here. We are all on the same side.

                Don

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                  #23
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                  Hi Echoes wife.
                  We alcoholics are all different, maybe if you visit us again, you will realise we are
                  just ordinary people trying to cope and conquor this horrendous disease/habit.
                  I do admire your attitude to your family. Once the drink problem is addressed,
                  and in some ways treated and the alcoholic faces up to the problem life can improve
                  a great deal. If you feel that we may be able to help you, it would be nice to hear from
                  you again. I do agree with what Don said.
                  Paula.
                  .

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                    #24
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                    Hi Echome's wife,

                    I am kind of the opposite of you. I finally started drinking after 15 years of being married to a controlling & verbally (rarely physically) abusive husband. One day I decided I either had to numb myself or kill myself. Drinking actually saved my life as wrong as that sounds, it is the truth. But as all of us on this board have learned, it is a short term solution. With alcohol you win the battle and lose the war. Most people on this earth are doing their best. Sometimes that's not good enough, but usually it is. I can completeley understand either direction you go in. Echo has crossed the line but I am here to support him on is road to sobriety.


                    Luvya,



                    Myheart
                    Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice.
                    - George Jackson

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                      #25
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                      Sorry everyone- I am bumping this up- I feel from Mrs. E's post she was kind of annoyed with us, the way she said 'Goodbye'- I do hope this wasn't the case and she will continue to visit, maybe she or Echome could give us an update- I would like to know things are inching along with them in the best way possible, given the circumstances.

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                        #26
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                        I've been loathe to say anything, but I really think I should.

                        There's a lot more to the Echome's relationship than we can be aware of and should let the matter drop.
                        It always seems impossible until it's done....

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                          #27
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                          Yes, I guess you are right Flip.

                          I still hope she may come back at a later date with some positive news though.

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                            #28
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                            marbella;211587 wrote: Sorry everyone- I am bumping this up- I feel from Mrs. E's post she was kind of annoyed with us, the way she said 'Goodbye'-
                            I never felt from the beginning she had any intention of healing or constructive therapy here. She strikes me as an angry, abused, confused, and bitter woman. Her mood was "WTF" and her demeanor made me feel like we were circus side show freaks. I don't excuse Echome's behavior, I just support him on his road to recovery. "WTF" is right.

                            I would be more than happy to support Echome's wife but I don't think she was looking for support.
                            Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice.
                            - George Jackson

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