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**tawnyfrog** · February 9, 2008, 12:58 AM

My heart is broken

Of course its going to effect you. God, Jude, he's been in your life for nearly 3 years.

It hurts like hell.

I can only send you hugs. Lots of them. Cry your fool head off and know that Sammy was loved while he was with you. And think that he'll go to a good new home.

You did the right thing. I feel for you, my little mate.

**CaptJBean** · February 9, 2008, 01:03 AM

My heart is broken

Oh, I am so sorry. That is scary when that happens too! Did you try pepper spray or vinegar water? But, you are right... It's either a fight to the death or who know what. Did the vet have any ideas? And, I know in some states if puncture wounds keep happening they will take the dogs and put them down. No questions asked.
And if they were to bite someone, now a days, they could come and sue you...
I am so so so so sorry. I know that this really hurts. But I think that this type of dog the great pyrraneise/lab... I would think he will be adopted soon. Let's keep good thoughts.
"How much is that doggy in the window?"
Just like me... you wear your heart on your sleeve. Keep me posted... JB

**Flip** · February 9, 2008, 01:06 AM

My heart is broken

You probably also feel like you failed yourself as well as him. I presume you've asked the vet or a dog trainer if there's any way to teach them to get on?

**Saint Jude** · February 9, 2008, 01:16 AM

My heart is broken

We asked the shelter if we could offer any form of extra donation ...in order to get him a higher profile etc...
The people @ the shelter are really kind, and a couple that work there as volunteers have a great pyreneise as well... might help...
They are wonderful people :h

I just pray somebody falls in love with him really soon. He's really just a big huge baby... but looks big.

He's all :h and fur...

**Determinatrix** · February 9, 2008, 01:28 AM

My heart is broken

So sorry you have lost one of your kids.
Big hugs for you :l :l

Dx

**CaptJBean** · February 9, 2008, 01:36 AM

My heart is broken

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**Not Happy Hour-Happy Life** · February 9, 2008, 01:36 AM

My heart is broken

St Jude- by any chance, did you get a check up for your dogs?
I found this information on
Dog Play: Great activities you can do with your dog...
it discusses unexpected change in behavior and the link to dog health....

Many behavior problems are based on physical problems. Anytime there is a sudden unexpected change in behavior the first step is to discuss the problem with your vet. It is simply counter productive to get angry or annoyed at dog reacting to a physical problem. For example, when my dog Oso got destructive by digging (into my bed, the rugs etc.) it turned out to be a symptom of dangerously low levels of blood calcium. The low levels gave him a tingly sensation which he was trying to relieve by the digging. It wasn't a symptom the vet knew to put together with that particular problem. But pain, blood chemistry, and infections can all influence sensation and behavior. A blood chemistry panel revealed a problem and subsequent experience showed the correlation. Aggression problems, for example, often have their root in eyesight or thyroid problems.

Much love, :l

**SKendall** · February 9, 2008, 01:54 AM

My heart is broken

Jude, so sorry that is painful. Hopefully you can get him suited to a better home. I love dogs so much I'm almost tempted to take him. However, we have a Gordon Setter who is recovering from a really bad traffic incident and he is in a very slow recovery.

I'm thinking of you sweetie.:h

**Saint Jude** · February 9, 2008, 02:18 AM

My heart is broken

Thanks so much for your replies.
Scott sends his thanks & love as well... he's very upset, & has gone to bed, but I insisted he share in some of the loving support here... we both need it right now...(he did read your replies)

Thank you :h
Amazing how words across the hemispheres can be so healing... Doesn't matter from where they come. When they're from the heart, it's a direct line...
:l

**Saint Jude** · February 9, 2008, 02:22 AM

My heart is broken

Happy hour, both dogs have been to the vet within the past 3 weeks. Full check ups...
It's wierd, they're both "fixed" (neutered) too.

**Not Happy Hour-Happy Life** · February 9, 2008, 02:48 AM

My heart is broken

That is strange- it's funny, if the dogs have been together for a period of time, why would they suddenly turn on each other? My dogs are like brother and sister, and I don't know what I'd do if they suddenly started to fight.... my prayers are with you.

Is there a dog whisperer out there?:truce: :helpme:

**MyHeartIsDrenchedInWine** · February 9, 2008, 02:57 AM

My heart is broken

SJ,

I hope it all works out for all parties, I know the heartache. I lost a puppy in 2006 to a congenital disease. It was his liver of all things, as we drink ours away!!!!

I know it must be scary to have Rottie/Lab sized dogs fighting. I have three little dogs, two pugs and tiny wee Yorkie. One of the pugs has always been sickly and she is a problem with the other healthy (male) puggie. I swear most mental health issues are biological, this poor little thing its psycho. She fights with him whenever I give him any attention, it IS scary!!!!!!

I'll be thinking of you all

**Shikakai** · February 9, 2008, 03:05 AM

My heart is broken

Wow! This is so reminiscent of when my dad used to have dogs... he had a couple of big dogs when I was young and they would get into it from time to time, but when one dog started to get the worst of it, he would have the sense to "back down". He figured out eventually who ran the show and there were no further problems.

Dad just let them fight just like he let my brothers fight. Never broke up the fights. Things always worked out.

Maybe you and hubby should have let the dogs "settle" it.

Anyway, sorry you had to take the baby to the shelter. I know that hurt *hugs*

**Saint Jude** · February 9, 2008, 03:16 AM

My heart is broken

Not happy hour, my throut is sore from screaming @ them yesterday... I'm quite sure a dog wisperer wouldn't do it...I truly wish it would..
But I'm afraid it's too late for anything like that.
These are like going for the jugular fights... they're not play'n around....

Thanks Shikakai, but

I'm not ready to have a full on blood bath in my house right now.

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