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    Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

    Good afternoon!

    I had a weird experience last night I want to share. There was a grocery item I wanted, but didn't feel like making the trip to the big supermarket for just one thing, so I went to a European style convenience store that's in my neighborhood. I rarely go there, and hadn't been there since November probably. Anyway, I walked in and had an instant flashback to the last time I had stepped in the store. It was to buy beer, and probably in Nov. or so. I felt nauseaous because I flashed so vividly on how I felt then. So depressed, so lost, so...... out there. So in love with that bottle. It's like night and day from how I feel now. I couldn't wait to get out of there.

    Yes Liv, I am a potty-mouthed Lori Partridge. Sometimes I just don't have time to be dainty! If it gets really bad, and I need my mouth washed out with soap - feel free, just use organic please . I use the Kudzu on an 'as-needed' basis now. If a physical craving hits, I pop Kudzu and L Glut immediately with a big glass of water (and then come here and post my ass off!). That hasn't happened in a good while, but I if I were going to be somewhere where there was alcohol, or traveling, or whatever, I would take both with me, for sure. In fact, I should keep a stash in my purse at all times. Good idea! Thank you. I did not get hot flashes from it, but find that supplelemnts can effect everyone differently, in general. The GABA with niacin gives me hot flushes - it't the niacin that does it to me, I think.

    Mya - So you're either MM-1, or WW + 1. That's so funny! See the symmetry? Just flip it, and it's the same. I'm a Libra, I love it! I want to see the "chic-wiener"!!! PLEASE!!! And way to go chug-chug-chugging along on the AF train! Woof!

    Tiredofhiding - What an extraordinary post. Thank you for giving us that gift :h. I am going to read it again later. I hope we get to see more of you here! And if you hit another rough patch, please know that we are here and welcome your participation. This thread has become a great source of stability for me and my sobreity, and I wish that for you too, if you'll have us!

    Bootsie! The beginning is always the HARDEST with a cleanse, just like drinking, I guess. After a few days, you will adjust and the cravings will go. Will the LGlut help in the meantime? I'm going to do a cleanse when it gets a little warmer. Yes, no sugeries. Next month we get confirmation. My few ciggies have to go too. After 90 days I will sit myself down and have a chat about it. This is the year I say goodbye, it's just a matter of when.

    Believe - "The whole reason behind eating this way is basically to trick your body into thinking that you're not on a diet when you really are." I totally get that. Many years of yo-yo dieting proved it. I actually weighed myself this morning for the first time in months. It wasn't safe! But I've been losing, and fitting into gradually smaller clothes again. And the number was fine. I'm back in the groove, and moving in the right direction, so I'm happy.

    MM - Yes, I can frickin' believe that you are not drinking!!! You've been busting your ass for this for a long time. Did you think NOTHING was happening !?!? :H And don't worry about us, you just take what you need during this flurry of activity (yay!) in your life. We take turns looking after each other, as needed. No stress here! Just let us know you're okay, okay? And if there's anything we can do. WAGONS HO!!!!!!!

    Kate - Date? I have no Date!! Except for my date with destiny . How are you feeling today? How is your flu?

    Thankful? How are you feeling today?

    WHOA! If I loved you anymore, I'd burst.

    WW xx

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      Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

      Lord that was long. I just want to say also ..........:H, that I have alot of free time right now. Not everyone does. If I don't get 'mentioned' in a post by way of response, my feelings will not be hurt. NO PRESSURE! and simple 'drive by' posts are nice too! Just love to see your faces....... WWxx

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        Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

        How funny I'm a Libra also!
        I only have a picture of her when she was a baby, I will take one this weekend and post it.

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          Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

          Wonder, you are correct about the Niacin causing hot flashes. I currently take 250 mgs/day (not for AF reasons). It is IMO important to make sure the niacin is time released otherwise it will cause the most uncomfortable itchy skin crawling hot flashes. I took 50 mgs non time released once (never again) and I had to take a cold shower for an hour till it settled down. My Doc says you can build a tolerance to the effect over time but time release is the way to go. Not a fun experience otherwise.
          Is Addiction Really a Disease?
          Watch this and find out....
          http://youtu.be/ekDFv7TTZ4I

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            Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

            thanks for that confirmation 4. I thought I remembered hearing something like that.
            lots of great info on this thread, wow......
            WWxx

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              Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

              I kinda get a "Flushed" feeling from a huge amount of niacin all at once too. Interesting stuff. Wonder I did some yo yo dieting myself over the years, its how I came to learn about doing things correctly. I', actually taking the week off from dieting though to be honest. Once you get things going, you can do that occasionally and won't gain an ounce.

              Speaking of that Liv I'm glad you found the info helpful...play with it for awhile and you'll find exactly what works for you. I think it took me close to a year to get it down ninja style (for me) so don't get discouraged..just kep at it. Shit if we can stay AF, show me soemthing we CAN'T do!

              Its good to see everyone on this thread doing so well, thas good stuff!

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                Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

                Oh good to see you too Kate. Haha nice weather we're having huh? Better than last winter for sure (unless you drive a monster truck)

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                  Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

                  "If we can stay AF ... show me something we can't do" - That one is going on the big board for me - Thanks Believe!!

                  Oh the Niacin thing - I looked at my combined total and I was taking 75 mg of niacin - No wonder last Saturday I thought I might be
                  A. Having a heart Attack
                  B. A Massive Hot Flash that wouldn't end
                  C. a bad reaction to the Kudzu !!
                  By Sunday I cried all through a 86 year old ladies Funeral - and not just because I was sad!! I posted a number of times on the topa thread about topa making me cry!!! I was having Niacin flushing !!! What an Fool I am - I didn't even think about all the B's I was popping. I thought for sure the Kudzu was some weird kind of herb.

                  Wonder - I quit smoking Nov. 28th - so if you need a sympathetic shoulder when the time comes I'm here - I'm telling you - If there is one substance that I wish wasn't bad for you - I wish that one was it - I liked my cigs - and I was a closet smoker - not to many people knew I smoked. Never smoked in my house all the years I smoked. :schmokin:

                  Forgive me all for my really bad typing - boy I could hold it together far better with a 6 pack of beer or bottle of wine in me than I can on 100 mg of Topa :nutso: Is that why it works - cuz you feel drunk!!! (just jokin here - settle down!)
                  Liv
                  AF since Jan. 1, 2008 .... It all began right here


                  Raise your hopeful voice, you have a choice, you made it now.


                  (from the Movie "Once")

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                    Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

                    Tryptophan help

                    I was digging through these pages trying to find the post on Tryphophan here - I know I saw a conversation between wonder and MM - maybe you could save me time and just enlighten me - when to take it and how much -- I know it helps to raise serotonin. I've read that 5-HTP has a more difficult time passing the blood brain barrier and may build around the heart so wanted to try Trypthophan - any advice would be great. Great weekend to all
                    AF since Jan. 1, 2008 .... It all began right here


                    Raise your hopeful voice, you have a choice, you made it now.


                    (from the Movie "Once")

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                      Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

                      Hi all, just thought I'd check in. Having one of those egregious days where you just have to take a second to look lilfe in the eye and be like "Are you Fckin KIDDING me?". Wow. I had plans to go hang out with a freind today but I don't know. The way things are going I'll probably get ran over or walk into the middle of someones shooting spree when I go to 7-11 to cop some Monsters. Lol what a shitty day.
                      On the flip side, some of y'all have to be having a good day, I hope so anyway. I guess any day AF could be considered, even at its worst, to be a step above any day involving drinking though. Take care everyone!

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                        Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

                        okay so i wasn't the only one having a rough day. i mean i actually was close to tears all day and then actually melted down by days end. and that just never happens. so many arrows coming at me in different directions and then wow surrender surrender. i just was like what the fuck?????? do i stick up for myself, walk away? well, stick up, what the hell. cry fuck it. i took the entire three days off from new job, probably won't go to crash course this weekend either. i don't know i feel like i'm not living up to commitments i set up for new life, but i have health to work on and i feel overwhelmed with my 24/7 life. phew.... and i the never ending crazy girl set up this schedule of mine. well, the good news is a client of mine did give me a trip to her place on the beach in cabo if i want it free. all i need is airfare. and after another consulting client completed yesterday and i said god wow, what are you setting up for me as cashflow is going down the tubes and you give me a vacation? hahaha so what is this message? humm. fuck it i'll take the week in april whatever. i'll do it. obviously you are universe telling me to take a time out. clients completing, vacation on my doorstep, um okay. and i didn't drink. okay. and i didn't want one. okay.
                        so triptophan 5 htp. well it depends on what your body needs. blood tests. because it may be deficient in certain types of hormones or too much in another or adrenals are producing or not. that is why i've had all these lovely blood tests done. so now i'm on testosterone, progesterone, hgh. but when i was on those i took 2 a day of both. i'll have to hunt up the mg on them. i had done mounds of research and was taking several items including carnitine and co q as well as arginine. there is a fantastic blood test you can take to determine what you are deficient in and then take supps according to that. my hormone dr gave me the test.
                        okay on with the day. i feel somewhat guilty for not running my sales team today at the new company. but i will put in some real estate time instead i guess. sigh sigh. love you all. maybe i'll get errands done. believe i'm sending you a big beautiful bootsie hug. I'M 60 TODAY
                        :welcome:

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                          Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

                          HAPPY 60TH BOOTSIE!!!!!:hug::band2:

                          YOU rock!!!!! And you are also Quite Stunning and Sexy!!!!

                          Sorry to hear that you are have a rough time, remember this too shall pass, dear heart!

                          Awe, Believe, Hugs to you! It is a beautiful, sunny day in Colorado! May the second half of the day go your way!

                          LF congratulations on quitting the "Fags" (that's starlight talk!!):goodjob:

                          WW I wanna go shopping on Canal Street again!

                          So far, I am having a great day! I was just in chat with maasai and Long Road. Wow! so interesting to hear about the what is going on in the rest of the world.............makes one think about how much we take for granted!

                          Love to All.
                          Kate
                          A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes~Cinderella

                          AF 12/6/2007

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                            Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

                            OOPs! Sorry Living Free, I was so busy seeing if I could do the whole "advance mode thing" that I forgot to say Hi!...............Hope you have a flashless day!
                            xx Kate
                            A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes~Cinderella

                            AF 12/6/2007

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                              Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

                              Hello All !!!

                              YAY BOOTSIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm SOOOOOOOO excited for you!!!!! So so so happy. 60 days indeed. Love you so much. Yes!

                              Brings up a subject: the title of this thread. 2 things. What do you think about, when we all get over the 60 hump, that we change it to '30 to 90'? The other thing is, Mya's name is spelled wrong (says Myra). It needs to be changed. And then, I almost has a superstitious feeling of no! don't change it!:H or we can leave it alone all together. as you wish.

                              Liv - MM recommended Source Naturals brand of tryptophan, which I really like. I got it from Amazon. I was taking another brand in 500 mg. at night and didn't notice any effect. I now take the Source Naturals capsules (not tablets). I take 2 - 500 mg. caps at night about an hour before bed. I think it is helping my sleep and has a positive effect on my mood. Calming. I think MM said she takes 1000 mg too, that she tried 1,500 and it was too much. I have no idea what thread that was on, or I'd point you there.

                              Believe - sorry it's a bad day dude. But you still have your sense of humor! What's Monsters? Is it candy? I LOVE 7-11. They don't have them here. I really miss them:upset:.
                              Slurpees, a billion different kinds of coffees and creamers, EVERY candy every invented, bandaids, motor oil, shaving cream, donuts, frisbees, cigarettes aaaaahhhhh.......

                              THANKFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!


                              WW xx

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                                Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

                                Wow Bootcamp, congrats on your 60 days, thats HUGE!

                                Yeah Kate it was pretty sunny here today, wow! Thats cool though I'm sick of the snow for awhile, I didn't even go snowboarding this year.

                                Monsters are energy drinks Wonder. Lots of places carry them, but 7-11 has the full line including the Monster Javas which are various coffe flavors. My favorite is the Loca Mocha. I love those things. Regular Monsters are good too, but Mocha Locas are off the chain.

                                Still having a horrible day BTW, I'll be lucky to make it to 60. Shit its been a bad week or so anyway, and I just can't catch a break. Fuck.

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