Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

[livingfree]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

Good night dear ones

Thursday night
I should be in bed - busy day tomorrow
Just stopping in
Thankful - I've been chasing you all over the boards - You my dear are growing stronger every day. I am truly proud of you. I can feel your strength popping. It is. I mean that. In CONFIDENCE - IN RESOLVE - I love it.
WW - You're pretty quiet - did you blow away with the storms out there? Or are you cleaning the pp and hair out of the pool? BELIEVEEEEEEEEEE!
MM - You seem to have gained so much strength over the week - I am so proud of you
Kate - you too are just all over the place woman! Such Wisdom -- I am learning so much from chasing you and Thankful around here! I feel like a kid peeking into the dining room as you are having your ladies groups - you and Thankful full of wisdom!
Believe - Hope your work week hasn't been to hard on you
Bootsie - still so quiet out there
Juliana - John - Det and anyone else checking in - You need to go back and read the Cow story a few pages back - because the wind is blowing out here and I'm standing into the Storm ... MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Nite my dear ones
Liv

[bootcampbarbie]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

woww i wrote this whole long thing and i see it didn't go through. i'm so so sad. hahahahahahahaaha i'll try again later. sigh sigh sigh

[Thankful]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

Hello my friends.

Been sadden by the drama, but damn it, I stand by what I wrote. Some people just don't get it. The people who do, PM me thanking me for what I said. Sad they have to thank me in private so they too aren't attacked. RJ had to make a decision to help one person or help several and I stand by RJ's decision.

With that said.....

I think the supps are already starting to help. Definately improving my mood. I have to create a better schedule or some kind of routine. Maybe by this weekend I'll feel like I know what I'm doing. lol

Believe ~ I love beenies! Can you make it into a beenie baby? I'll try anything that offers healing powers. You are so sweet to think of my health.

WW ~ you are my inspiration and continue to be so. Love you!

Bear ~ neat calc! Thanks. It's nice to see those positve numbers add up.

Dow ~ no, your stop date does not offend. Be proud of it, hun!!

Liv ~ you're always so supportive. I can't believe how many people you have reached out to since you have been here. You have probably helped more people in your short stint here than some who have been here over a yr. There are a lot of takers out there, but you are definately a giver. Thank you.

MM ~ I really understand you point. I actually got out of the house 2 whole days in a row this week! Woo hoo! And I'm lost trying to keep up w/this site. But "real" life has to come first. I post on another daily thread where someone once said they basically only appreciate those you post everyday. That bothered me for a long time, so I would bust my butt to be on here everyday. I'm learning now that I do not have to be. Life is out there and we must join it. Good luck w/your meditation. I'm sure you'll feel a world of difference.

Kate ~ lmao! Sweaters and beenies for the Big Idea! Believe, you can make a fortune and cut back on those crazy hrs that you work! Kate gets a cut for the suggestion, though.

To all I may not have mentioned.. sending you hugs and support. Stay strong, my friends.

Hoping today's boards are a little cheerier. Going to venture out.

Love, Me
:l

[BELIEVE]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

Whats up everyone. Its the first of my days off (got 4 this week) so here I am, trying to wake up for that first trip to the gym today. Yay. I thought I would jump on here real quick to see whats good.

Speaking of good things, Thankful its gr8 2hear you're feeling so much better. You see? The very MENTION of a magical healling manhair beenie has cured you. Wow. Thats powerful stuff. I like Kates Idea of marketing the beenies and sweaters, but I'm just not sure that the general public is ready for mojo of this magnitude. If I do decide to go that route though Kate, not only will you get a fatty cut for the great Idea, but maybe we could fix you up with a commemorative throw (isn't that one of those blankets?) or big manfurry Russian style hat or something. Not sure yet what it'll be but you'll be the only kid on your block who has one :H

Liv you're right on track there. Your pysique is the result of choices you make everyday, not some "diet" that comes and goes like some fad. 3 pounds of fat is more than you think, so definatley give yourself credit. You know one pound of fat equals apporx. 3500 calories. Thats like 10,500 calories worth of discipline you've mustered so far! So keep it up. Just be ready for the inevitable: the more you lose the slower it'll come off. Thats where I'm at now, I'm startign to run out of fat to lose so despite my efforts the results are really coming a lot slower..

A big shout out to WW, who brought us not only this and the pol party thread, but the term "Mangroomer" which still makes me lol to this day!

[KateH1]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

Hi Gang!

I am just taking a lot of deep cleansing breaths here.....................Busy day ahead for me, just waiting to get on my conference call.....

This is just a quick pop-in. I appreciate everyone here so, much, Liv, Thankful.....we seem to always rally at the same thread at just about the same time! I appreciate you both for your honesty! In fact, everyone on this thread is a trusted friend to me.

I have been thinking a lot about this alcohol thing and what a tole it can take. Thinking about "Support" and what that is. Is support about continuously for days on end adding to the "Pour You's" and coddling, or does there come a point where that hurts more than helps. Does the molly coddling make us feel better, like we are kind and loving people, more than it helps the person in distress?

I would love to hear your views on this?

Any way........life goes on, I am happy to be a non-drinker!!

My little darlings, Dawn and Natalie are coming over tonight for a sleepover!!!

Have a Great Day All!

Love,
XXXKate

[Thankful]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

Ahh, Kate. You, Liv and I ...great minds think alike I guess. lol Just joking all.

I think you hit the nail on the head with some people's posts. I think some people post only nice things whether they think it's the right thing to do or not. You can tell the repeat offenders who really just like to "be the nice ones". Can't they see that they are part of the problem? Enablers are not helping anyone.

And nobody can make someone go to rehab. They should know from their own personal experience that no one will quit until they are fully ready to quit. Some drinkers post not for support to quit. They want to be told, "it's ok you are drinking"..."we understand". They want our permission, so once again, they are not to blame. Some do coddle way too much. Too many offenders of this if you ask me. And again, can't they too see that they are part of the problem?

I'm not talking about the people who slip here and there. I'm talking about the ones who use this site to socialize more than receive advice. Whenever one thread starts to go in a direction that they don't want, they just start a new one. And the out pouring of the "poor you" and the coddling starts all over again.

The true answer lies in the post Liv had put out there a while back. The one where the word alcohol needs to be substituted for the word nicotine. EXCELLENT point there! I think I need to find that and BUMP it up. Might have to wait for the drama to die down a bit first. I feel so bad for the new people joining this week.

Thanks for asking for an opinion on this. That felt good to get off my chest. I appreciate being able to come to this thread and speak my mind. I love you guys so much!

Thank you for letting me be me.

Love, Me
:l

[meditation mama]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

ditto!!!!!!!

Love you all... HUGE DAY - waxing lots of "you know whats"!

runner, runner, runner.... breath..

BBL

MM

[BELIEVE]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

kate and thankful you guys really have a point. I've noticed memebers on here who are true attention whores. All they want is peoples attention as long as its in the form of pats on the back or "Thats ok's". I personally don't post on their threads, although i do read them due to the same weird curiosity (and amusement) that would make it hard to look away from a chihuaua trying to hump a rhino. Usually the things I would have to say aren't in anyway constructive, they would just hurt and offend, so I figure its best just to keep them to myself.

That said though, I couldn't really apply a hard and fast rule for dealing with soemthing as dynamic as different peoples personalities and their relationships to one another. SOme people really are fragile and tough love could just flip them all the way out. On the other hand some folks are stubborn as hell and really need someone to go upside their head before they'll listen. As for the attention whores (just an expression BTW, no reference to gender here since guys can be attention whores too) I don't think they deserve help or the attention they desire. If you want help you should ask for and accept it. If you want attention you could try putting a lit sparkler in your ass and walking around downtown naked. Hand out $100 bills while you're at it if you want people to act like they like you.

Just my .02

[Thankful]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

OMG!!! I can not stop laughing!! I have tears running down my face! Don't hold back , tell us what you really think! :H

Believe, hun, you ever consider writing for Halmark? You write so eloquently.

Love, Me
:l

[KateH1]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

"Am I sparkling now???? Am I sparling Now????? Ouch! shit!!! just burned my Ass!!! Well, I won't be trying that again soon!!!! LMAO!!!!

Thanks you guys!!!

Love you!!!!

[Doggygirl]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

I confess that I have not read this thread in it's entirety. But I HAD to post because:

1) I WonderWorld a LOT and want to say hi!!
2) I WonderWorld's previous angel avatar and would be happy to babysit the angel for awhile if such services would be helpful.
3) With talk of "asses" in at least two threads today, it just seems cosmic that I should post here.

Can I join even if I haven't read every thread?????? (well, and even though I'm not currently 60-90??) Pwetty Pwease?? I'm going to need all the entertainment as well as great support I can get in the coming weeks!! (thank you in advance)

Oh - and I'm the type who needs a kick in the ass (oops - there we go with asses again!) - no coddling for me.

DG
* (I'm a counter, but I have lots of non-counter friends)

[Thankful]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

Doggygirl, why don't you want to take the time to read 230+ posts? Do you have anything better to do over the next 4 or 5 days? LOL Just kidding, hun!

Well, if you did read some you would see we let anyone join. Except what you might think of the last couple of posts, we really are people lovers here! Truly! Wonder started this fantastic thread and so many here love it so much.

Don't you worry about your AF count. It will add up before you know it. We'll help whenever we can.

Post away our new/old friend. I love your humor.

Love, Me
:l

[Doggygirl]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

Thankful;290983 wrote: Doggygirl, why don't you want to take the time to read 230+ posts? Do you have anything better to do over the next 4 or 5 days? LOL Just kidding, hun!

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Well, I WOULD read every post because lord knows I'll be spending plenty of time around here in the coming weeks. However, my first priority is to stalk Wonder all over this board in hopes of getting a babysitting gig with the angel. I'm not sure when the last time Wonder sported that angel was. You MUST see the angel if you're not sure what avatar I'm talking about.

Once I can check off my first priority stalking activity, I'll think about tackling the 230+ posts.

DG
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[Thankful]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

LOL! You crack me up. Don't worry your not missing out on much with our "words of wisdom". cough, ahem.

Anyway, just thought I'd let you know that our lovely Wonder has been on in the PM lately.
You probably can get her attention later on over at "The Pool Party".

Hope that helps you. Take care!

Love, Me
:l

[bootcampbarbie]

Day 31 and Beyond: Hello, I'm a non-drinker

wow i don't know i mean if you can't read 240 posts while naked with a sparkler in your ass ummmmm what does that say about your level of commitment to really being a part of this group? ahahahahahaha hense naked and sparkler require you to read posts. ahahahahahahahahahahhaha fell off my barbie chair. yes, this thread rocks doesn't it? hey my fanciful thankful, i always mean to say that i love that rose. so there you go. hello everyone since i lost my first post well i will start a new smaller one. i'm sure the ceo of the company i'm consulting at is pissed as i called in sick today. but oh well. i'm working nites everyday this week too for coaching and well 3 hours of sleep a day just caught up to me. sigh sigh.
so i come back and the one person who has helped me consistently and solidly since i joined this place a year ago has gone off the deep end. and amazing to me as i had and have such deep respect and feelings for her, it is always amazing to me to watch the crowd turn on someone. so we will have to differ in our belief systems and then we are very similar in them as well. because the attention whores on this site annoy the fuck out of me, those that show up to chat a. drinking b. drunk well that pisses me off because they become weird, don't know it, then want to suck up the space and then make you wrong. and well, then those that come on and they are truly just need need all the time yep that doesn't work.
but to me someone who has helped so many, even while spiraling down, well who amongst any of us while in a stupor of al hasn't done a one of those things repeatedly. it is an ugly reminder of what booze does to a person. and we of all people should have some fucking compassion for that. i'm so sad for lisa for example as my luv's phone is full. so i can't leave a message. barry at lenair was kind enough to put together and emergency session for her after i emailed him last nite when i found all of this out. he called me straight away this morning and said let's get her in here. that's all it took. mean time now unless i fly to south carolina and hunt her down i can't reach her. sigh sigh so, how could there ever be a hard and fast rule with dealing with human beings some simply deserve more grace because of who they are and the grace they've provided. and well i even remember i was so very sick and didn't know with tests not back if i was dieing and i remember lisa calling me each and evry day and offering to fly out and take care of me.. she would never leave me. and well, seems that that is who one needs to be at times. but enough of that. i'm just over the top when it comes to loyalty to leaders who are so good.... and i couldn't give a shit about what someone says when they are drunk or "how hurtful". i mean if it were to any other crowd then a bunch of people with alcohol addictions i'd have some pity. but come one get off it... let's not cast stones here. of course this program works like any other one does to the degree it does. and you can't take anything anyone says while drunk or drinking seriously..
. come on. we of all people KNOW THIS> hypocritical..... so we will have to what is it.... agree to disagree on that one..... and roberta is correct as it is her site. she should do whatever she wishes on her site. it's hers to protect, nurture and take care of the greater whole. which i think she should. i know once i got in a very big tug of war on an issue and a guy that had come to this site which i have a lot of proof was a not good person and was beating his son and wife. and his wife's telephone calls to me and emails indeed confirmed that but i said mean things about him on a thread and to him. and basically rj said cut it out, or you are gone. so i started my first thread ever and i publicly apologized. i didn't feel that way but i respect rj it's her site... and eventually the jerk left about the time i think his wife started showing up. ahahahahahahahahaha funny.

and well lastly i so sincerely agree about substitute in the addiction for the addict pattern that you all wrote about above. as obviously even if you kick one thing there is still behavior that is lurking. so i'm headed back to lenair in may. it worked so magnicifcantly on alcohol as i don't even think about it one little bit not even with it in my house. not a bit... that i'm going to tackle my other not good pieces and the first is: giving it all away, weak boundary, so overspending fits in there, overworking, giving giving giving,,,,, fill in the blank no thing left for me or very little .... or so much as in go spend treat yourself but it is empty... so i want the 'normal" life i have now as it relates to booze so i want that there too. and oh fill in anything above, sex, sugar cigarettes. it is a viscious circle. so may is my time for recalibration a meeting of me with me cheers you all. and i think it is a healthy world where we can all be allowed to have our "own" way of thinking and opinions. that is why it is important that NOT everyone agree with us.. so my share was not for agreement but to clear my space.... because i love lisa with all my heart and she has been someone who would be there no matter what. and i simply don't do the crowd kick em to the gutter crap. i'm way too fierce and loyal and if ever a one of you were in trouble i would be there for you... that is who i am. i do not abandon people that have been so so good to others such as lisa. now for the suck ups... i couldn't really care... i have no space or time for that.
hahahahaha Hey MM i hope you are feeling better. and LIV i keep waiting for a big ol wonderwoman avatar. believe cheers and thankful again beautiful as always.. i know i've missed folks. i will blame it on senility at 47./ hahahaah