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    Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

    Hello all. I've been reading awhile and it seems I should fit in someplace. Lots of interesting characters here.
    Well, to the point. My PCP diagnosed me with Alcoholic Hepatitis. I was pretty sure I had it weeks before my liver blood test came back. I have "slightly" elevated enzymes. He softened the news by adding that it is a "mild" case. Folks, if this is mild, I'm not sure one could survive moderate without a ventilator and IV.
    I've diligently researched this disease on the net. Almost seems there is a different criteria of symptoms on each site. I've even went on forums that talk about it. Seems to me the best info short of a biopsy or CT Scan is from people who have/had it. So, if anyone has been down this scary path OR work around people with AH, I would love your feedback.
    Firstly, it's sad to admit but I deserve getting this. I drank anyway but responsibly for the past 6 or so years. Even in my teens and twenties I never cared to comprehend what moderation meant. But, around my early thirties I started getting hammered, frequently. I surely went through fatty liver a year ago without missing a beat. I gained weight, started developing darkness under my eyes. I was just oblivious to it. Beer can't hurt you, or so I liked to think.
    I'll try to keep this short so I don't loose potential advice due to making a long story of it.
    Ok, my Dr. is nice, but I'm concerned I should be seeing a specialist. After all, I've read TOO many accounts that indicate liver enzymes do not even have to be high for one to have AH. Then, wouldn't it stand to reason that one could have more severe Hepatitis with just slightly elevated enzymes? I've also read where many sufferers say the Blood Test is really not such a great indicator, especially concerning how progressed the disease is. Most accounts I read say a biopsy is the surest one, followed by CT scan and ultrasound.
    I guess my point is I'm worried that it's worse than what he thinks.
    Let me go ahead and describe my current condition:

    AF 5 weeks today.
    I have felt pressure in my back just below the rib cage for months. I actually used to quit a few days till it went away before drinking again...until I nearly died. I'll share more about that if anyone wants to know or thinks it might help someone else.
    I started having blotchy spots on my face that only went away if I stopped drinking for awhile. 5 weeks AF, my complexion is better, but the splotches are still visible. What skin tone I have helps subdue them some, but some stand out. I think a lot of people think it's acne. Funny as I only had an occaisional pimple in High School, not a rash. Maybe it's eczema. Also, I get random red spots now generally anywhere. Sometimes they are like zits or similar...other times it's apparently under my outer skin. I'm fair, so they show up easy.
    Angiomas...did I spell that right? They are a curse. I'm not covered with them, but it's clear I have SEVERAL now. As in 10-20, jeesh, I don't even want to count them.
    AND, some larger spots, not as many but quite visible. These are not red, but more of an earthy color. Great to know most of these will be staying with me ( except the acne-like ones that just change locations).
    Fatigue. Some days I can only last 8 hours before I'm worn out. Even worse is I might of only been physically active 3 of those 8.
    Other days I can't shut down, but still near lethargic.
    I'm trying to be kind to myself and not expecting to feel great. Just allowing myself to be sick, with the thought in the back of my mind that it will pass ( weeks to months is what I've heard ).
    Occasional joint pain is also present. Shut, my left knee feels like it's blown out for reasons unknown. I know the liver can cause joint/bone pain, but this is really something I should have checked out.
    Not to sound tongue in cheek about this, just staying optimistic. I think a lot of the struggle is mental.
    Now I'd love to hear from others!
    Should I go ahead and be examined more thoroughly by a specialist?
    How bad does this sound? Cirrhosis scares the s**t out of me, but it is not a certainty. See, it's hell just going off blood tests and waiting 30 days for results.
    Oh, did I forget to mention alcohol seems to have inflicted some nerve damage on me? It just gets better and better. I think it is largely reversible, but I still need to see a Neurologist and find out what I can. Do you know Alcohol can cause MS?
    My apologies if I actually sound cheery about this. Still having mood swings and an intense desire to feel good about life even if I am walking on a rickety bridge...But, I can see the other side of the ravine!
    I really want to hear from some people. Just don't scare the s**t out of me!
    All are welcome, but most desired are the battle-scarred vets, the Nurses, Doctors and Caregivers, and those who have experience around this affliction.
    And I thought quitting was going to be the hardest part...

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    Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

    Hi Feb!

    Yeah I got it too!! Was diagnosed only about 3 weeks ago and had the results back from my Ultrasound last week confirming his diagnosis. My elevated enzymes were teetering around the 100 mark when they should be around the 40 mark. My GP avoided using the phrase Alcoholic Hepatitis as much as possible as the psychological impact this can have can be quite damaging. The good thing about the blood tests was that the other enzymes tested were not that high so the functioning side of the liver is still OK. I think If these were high also I would of been more than a little concerned as this would possibly of indicated something more serious like cirrhosis of the liver.

    I've been adopting a more healthy outlook on life since the results and this has helped dramatically. Alcoholic Hepatitis is reversible as long as you stay off the booze. do whatever it takes to NOT drink at all. I was a binge drinker and alcohol was my addiction. I therefore cannot drink sensibly anyway and one drink will have me back binging in no time at all. So I have always looked at my sobriety as one of total abstinence. I've had a few moments of denial in the past and my recent results helped confirm that I can NEVER drink again. For me quitting was not the hard part it was being able to live sober instead of being in limbo constantly, I just couldn't seem to move forward with my life.

    It is funny you should mention though that once we stop drinking all these problems suddenly arise!!!. I often thought in the past I was better off drinking than being sober as all these health issues started popping up once I stopped.

    Love and Happiness
    Hippie
    xx
    "Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children." Kahlil Gibran
    Clean and sober 25th January 2009

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      #3
      Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

      Go to a specialist

      I have Hep C. I now go to a Infectious Disease Specialist but prior to that went to a Digestive Disease Specialist who treated my liver issues. I have had 2 liver biopsies. They are not too bad. Each time I had it done it was a little different but basically they stick a needle in between the bottom one or two ribs on your right side (that is where your liver is) and extract a tiny thread of your liver. It is outpatient and really pretty painless. The type of Hep C I have doesn't respond well to the current treatment so I get my liver enzymes checked every 6 months and get an annual ultrasound. The ultrasound can detect the fatty liver, but the Dr told me that the actual blood tests are not really a good indication. The biopsy is the only real way to see what is going on. I take 1,000 mg of Milk Thistle everyday and have been for over 8 years and my AST/ALT levels are in the normal range. If you can't find it in the store, you can order it from Puritan's Pride Vitamins: Discount Vitamins and Herbal Supplements. most Wal-Mart's have it.

      It is good that you felt/looked bad since the liver is such a silent, non complaining organ. See if you can find a good specialist and get a biopsy!

      Best of Luck!

      -V

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        #4
        Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

        Dear Feb,
        I'm no expert, but I do know the liver is a pretty forgiving organ, and will regenerate itself if you take care of it in time.
        I recently lost a friend that died from acute liver failure. I didn't see any symptoms, but I wasn't around her that much. She just got sick, Dr. prescribed some antibiotics, and then she started turning orange. She died 10 days later after her kidneys failed. Not trying to scare you, but do not drink, do not take Tylenol, and be very careful about prescription and otc drugs. And I agree, go to a specialist--what have you got to lose??
        _______________
        NF since June 1, 2008
        AF since September 28, 2008
        DrunkFree since June 1, 2008
        _____________
        :wings: In memory of MDbiker aka Bear.
        5/4/2010 In loving memory of MaryAnne. I pray you've found peace my friend.
        _______________
        The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.ray:

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          #5
          Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

          February,

          My daughter has alcoholic hepatitis. She is very sick and has difficulty keeping food down.

          In the last month, despite her diagnosis, she has continued drinking and now, today, is going in for rehab because she has been unable to get out of bed for two days. She has finally hit "rock bottom" on this thing. (I hope!!)

          Anyway, the docs have told her the ONLY way to get better is to quit drinking. Unfortunately, detox is going to be hell for her because there are only a few drugs they can prescibe for alcoholic hepatitis and detox, none of which are potent. So many of them are metabolized by the liver and cannot be given.

          I hope she can be stiff enough to take it.

          As I learn more, I will post here.

          Running off to get her into rehab right now.

          Cindi
          XXIX
          AF April 9, 2016

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            #6
            Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

            Alcohol Alert #64

            FYI--
            RJ posted this link awhile back--it's very informative.
            _______________
            NF since June 1, 2008
            AF since September 28, 2008
            DrunkFree since June 1, 2008
            _____________
            :wings: In memory of MDbiker aka Bear.
            5/4/2010 In loving memory of MaryAnne. I pray you've found peace my friend.
            _______________
            The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.ray:

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              #7
              Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

              Cindi... so glad you hear your daughter was going in today!!!

              LVT...thank you for the link!! Great article...
              P.S. You can't love if you don't love yourself... :heart:

              As you wander through life, sister/brother, whatever be your goal, keep your eye upon the donut, and not upon the hole.
              - Sign in the Mayflower Coffee Shop, Chicago

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                #8
                Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

                February,

                Can you tell me anything about the nerve damage? I have numbness but it is only on one side of my body, very strange. One of my liver enzymes was only slightly elevated and further blood tests came out good, no indication of hepatitis.

                You sound like you are taking this all seriously which is a very good sign :l

                We are all here for you :h



                Myheart
                Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice.
                - George Jackson

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                  #9
                  Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

                  Hi MHIDIW,
                  I only have a hypothesis thus far. Research will tell you that excessive alcohol intake, especially over long periods, can damage practically any part of you. Alcohol is a neurotoxin. It can attack your central nervous system. I believe there are three layers in nerves. Axons being one and the worst one to have damaged. This can lead to Neuropathy which causes numbness and can get progressively worse. I believe this info is accurate, but I haven't been reading into it for awhile. As I mentioned in my first post, alcohol consumption can even lead to Multiple Sclerosis, which is a large concern for me right now. Some signs of both are change in gait ( as in poor balance, walking like you're tipsy, foot dragging, and numbness ) fatigue, memory issues and the list goes on. I'm working on 6 weeks AF and all these problems have come back to bite me in the rear. While I'm optimistic and somewhat prepared for the worse, I am preparing to engage in a battery of tests to see what extent of damage alcohol has done.

                  Thanks for the replies everyone. I wish everyone the best.

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                    #10
                    Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

                    February,

                    I think we don't notice a lot of little things when we are drinking so if we get sober it may seem like all these health ailments are all of a sudden cropping up but maybe we are just now feeling everything, ya know?

                    My Dr did X rays and found I have mild scoliosis and a loss of the natural curve in my neck so maybe I have a pinched nerve or something. The Chiropractor cracking my bones felt really weird and did not seem to help. My therapist suggested yoga to help me with drinking too much....interesting.



                    Myheart
                    Patience has its limits. Take it too far, and it's cowardice.
                    - George Jackson

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                      #11
                      Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

                      Scary Stuff

                      I'm sorry to hear that you are not feeling well. Were you a binge drinker or did you drink everyday? And for how long? About the back pain? I had some back pain like you discribe, after binge drinking a few months ago. The pain did go away after staying away from drinking....Do you know what causes the pain? I haven't drank for 30 days now and I feel great! The desire to drink has gone away and so I'm just going with the feeling. Thanks for sharing. I hope you feel better soon.:sorry:

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                        #12
                        Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

                        MHIDIW,

                        You are so right. When I was drinking it was all too easy to not notice or be concerned about health issues. Shut, I may have even drank them away, so to speak. Then, if you are fortunate, you wake up.

                        Quitting was difficult. In my mind I thought all should return to normal in a few weeks. Well, I didn't get this way in a few weeks or even a few years, so how can I expect to be healthy in even a few months? Time will tell, but I'm doing most of what I can to help myself. At least I'm looking at Recovery as a journey, now. I'm know it will have some ups and downs.

                        I'm pretty sure the Hepatitis will resolve itself. Hopefully there is no scarring in my liver. It's the Neuropathy that has me concerned right now as it came be a major problem in itself. I have noticed the numbness is not as frequent. But, some days it just happens. Hopefully my nerves will be able to heal as well.

                        I think Yoga is a great idea, especially for ppl like us. I've been meaning to get into it for years.

                        You all have my gratitude and best wishes.

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                          #13
                          Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

                          Liver

                          Leyla;311262 wrote: I'm sorry to hear that you are not feeling well. Were you a binge drinker or did you drink everyday? And for how long? About the back pain? I had some back pain like you discribe, after binge drinking a few months ago. The pain did go away after staying away from drinking....Do you know what causes the pain? I haven't drank for 30 days now and I feel great! The desire to drink has gone away and so I'm just going with the feeling. Thanks for sharing. I hope you feel better soon.:sorry:
                          Most likely the back pain in the upper right is from an inflamed liver. liver
                          Starting over again 09/06/11

                          "When its good its good its so good until it goes bad" Pink,Sober

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                            #14
                            Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

                            Wow...

                            Hey all, I'm 26 and have been a medium to heavy binge drinker for 7-8 years now. A couple days ago I started getting extremely uncomfortable symptoms of AH after a weekend of binging. I thought it might have been the flu and and / or maybe a bit of too much drinking, but i never expected to be this. After reading about Alcoholic Hepatitis's symptoms and implications I was paniccing.
                            I'm still waiting on the blood tests but i'm almost certain it will be AH. My symptoms are ache/cramps in liver and maybe kidneys or pancreas, loss of appetite, some difficulty sleeping at times, random pangs of joint or limb pain, slight decrease in mental focus, and a nausea and sense of general unheathiness like i've never felt before. Don't think i have any of the advanced symptoms, but I won't know until tomorrow. Still this is scary as hell.
                            If anyone has had a relatively similiar experience on this, I have some questions. Assuming i eat the recomended diet, keep my weight up, take the vitamin supplements and obviously never touch alcohol/drugs again, how much worse can i expect this to get?And has anyone made a substantial recovery from this point? Thanks very much.

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                              #15
                              Alcoholic Hepatitis/Nueropathy

                              Feb 72 I never knew that alcoholism could lead to MS...that's absolutely terrifying.
                              Thanks for this thread.

                              Kungfu - welcome friend. I don't have any info. for you but someone will be along soon I'm sure.

                              xo

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