Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

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Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Cindi
I agree with Hippie. Please let us know that you have been seeking some help for her. It is true you have alot going on now, but we are all concerned.
Time

[Cinders]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Wow,

Thank you, Hippie and T2C.

I worry about my girl so much.

and she worries about me.

Geez.

However, I am thinking if you are so sick you are throwing up blood, things are not good.

I try to talk to her and she does not respond.

I am Mommy. I would do whatever it takes to make her well. However, as all of you know, we can only heal ourselves. We cannot heal others.

I would rather die than her. Any day. I would take a bullet for her. Any day. I would let someone do whatever...

She is my BABY. But, just like us, she chooses to drinik and her body is suffering.

I am suffering, too.

Love,
Cindi

[time2change]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Cindi
I am so sorry. i know how much it hurts to see our children suffer. If I remember correctly she married recently. Can her husband do anything to convincer her to get help.
My heart goes out to you and your family.

[Cinders]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Yeah, her husband helps. He decides when he wants to drink and brngs home booze.

Damn.

What is really sad, is that he "DOESN'T GET IT."

He really does not know that, "An adult beverage" is poison to my girl. He does not.

At least, I hope he does not.

Otherwise, he is selfish and wants it his way.,

Love,
Cindi

[MyHeartIsDrenchedInWine]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Wow Cindi,

I'll be thinking of you both

[Cinders]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Oh, my hubby would KILL anyone who tried to bring alcohol into my house.


Seriously. He would break their arms, stop their ice chests, WHATEVER IT TAKES. HE knows how hard and difficult it is for me.

He would do whatever it takes.

Man. I am one lucky/working hard SOB.

He is awesone.

Love,
Cindi

[hippie37]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Cindi I just sent you a pm within the time of you posting here in this thread. You know I'm not one to interfere within family relationships etc and offer all kinds of 'good advice'; It's none of my business at the end of the day. I am still worried though to the extent that your daughter is coughing up blood and her partner still doesn't 'GET IT'. What kind of a man is he? For fuck's sake take some intervention and make him see that your daughter is ILL and needs help. Is he gonna wait till she is dead till he GETS IT. Do something please for her sake and yours. It may sound like shit advice and I'm interfering I don't know......but I don't care anymore about playing the nice hippie guy. This has gone on long enough hun. You must be hurting yourself so bad right now and I know how much you love your baby. I'm almost in tears writing this cause I don't wanna upset you but I don't wanna see you hurt even more than you already are and I feel your daughters healing process will be a big part of yours too.

Pm me please hun I'm worried about you.

Hippie
xx

[vera-b]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Hi Cindi,

I'm chuckling a bit at the picture I see of your husband and mine fending off anyone or anything that would stand between us and our treasured sobriety. I see knights in uniform, rings of fire, moats, transgressors hanging from poles, stockades and so much more.

Sorry to hear about your lovely daughter. I, too, have a daughter of drinking age who so far does not exhibit her mother's problems - but I see signs that bother me. She's drinking faster than before, more volume, and is drinking to lift a mood or celebrate. I'm using every opportunity to warn her, but alas you know how far that gets me. The guilt creeps in. But I cannot let it get in the way of my own journey, as it's obvious you have not either. I'll pray for them both, and for mothers everywhere who love more than can be measured.

By the way, where did all the vodka boottles come from that they found in your house????

V.

[wonderworld]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

cindi;376963 wrote:

I would take a bullet for her.

OKay - but are you willing to NOT take a bullet for her? Are you willing to NOT die for her? The only thing she needs from you right now is your sobriety. I think you have to start taking care of yourself as you would like your daughter to take care of HERSELF, you know? You have to SHOW her. That's the behavior modeling that will make the difference. Until then, it's just theoretical and you'll have no credibility with her. Actions will ALWAYS speak louder than words. Yes, you are her Mommy, and that means that whatever long term abstinence you achieve, will become a blessing for her somewhere down the line, many many times over.

When you give up on yourself and drink, you leave her in the lurch. That's how it is with alcohol-dependent parents. From a child who was in those shoes many many times, let me tell you it feels awful. USE these emotions and new awarenesses stirred up by Lenair Cindi.. Feed them with sobriety and light. Don't detour.

IMHO: Get clear and re-apply yourself to 30 days AF - if it's the MWO program you'll be following. If not that, then another one. ( What day is this so far? let's get cheering!) And then, when you feel like drinking, come here first and ask for help 'til it passes. If you do that, you will be in an entirely new position to deal with your daughter a month from now. That would be so good.

Wishing love and peace to you both-

WW xox

[Accountable for Me]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

So sorry you weren't cured by Lenair. I am also sorry about your daughter. I had no idea she was drinking again and now is puking up blood. How scary - and I hope she seeks medical treatment ASAP.

Alcoholism mostly comes from internal sadness and pain. I am glad you were able to deal with the horrific stuff; now it is time to start healing to deal with the alcohol.

Thanks for your honesty. I had my doubts about Lenair from the get-go. Reading Beatle's experience and then the struggles with Luv and Greenie. It just seems that it works for some and not for others. No guarantee. But at least you tried because who would know whether it would work unless you gave it a shot.

At least you came home with something. You are happy and you have dealt with and let go of other things.

Glad you are back.

[KatieSmiles]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Sorry lenair didn't turn out the way you had hoped
Head up, stay positive and keep trying.

Hugs
K

[beatle]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Cindi's first post almost exactly describes my experience.

It was sort of like 3 years of psychotherapy in 3 hours.

A few weeks after visiting Lenair, I had one of my worst slips (binges) and a follow-up pill overdose and ER visit (many of you suffered through this with me). This experience may in fact have been related to the Lenair visit.... the disappointment of not being "cured" combined with the "issues" being brought to the surface, that I really need to deal with but didn't consiously realise it.

Anyway, Barry also said my problems were way beyond alcohol. I believe this is true (but isn't it for most people?) and would go back again like Cindi if I could, because I feel there is a lot of unfinished work, but alas...

Anyway, moving on-- day 4 AF and feeling more positive-- again. We just don't give up, do we?

[Lila]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

oh cindi
I am worried too about the coughing up blood, I would just be going crazy. I agree with Hippie - if there are any steps you can take - I think you should do so.
I am going to say a prayer for you and for your daughter.
Lila

[ready2change]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

I hope Cindi won't mind me updating some of you who are not familiar with her daughter.

She was very sick a few months back and was due to be married soon. She was throwing up blood then and was diagnosed with progressive liver disease. She went to rehab for a time. Came out and got married.

Cindi, in my humble opinion has done volumes for her daughter. Given her all the tools. The only thing she should do at this point is be there for her daughter, as she is. She needs to work on her recovery in order to be there for her daughter. Her daughter is an adult, married to a man who should be taking care of her as well. But we are all in the same boat here, and we know that WE have to help ourselves, no one but US can do this for us.

Cindi, I commend you for all you have done in the past for your daughter. I know you want the best for her. As WW said, all you can do at this point is be an example for her. Hopefully she will follow in your footsteps. Hugs to you.

R2C

[louise]

Lenair was not the Silver Bullet

Cindi, I'm glad Lenair was a positive experience, even if it was not the relief from craving alcohol you hoped for. But I know you will keep up the battle and be there, sober, to help your daughter as she allows. I will keep you both in my thoughts.
P.S. Glad to see you posting Beatle.