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    #46
    Rain in my heart

    LookingToGrow;391653 wrote: I think it means you are a subscriber.
    That is correct!!!
    Listen for God's voice in everything you do, everywhere you go; He's the one who will keep you on track. Proverbs 3:6 The Message

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      #47
      Rain in my heart

      Starting,

      Wow. This series is amazing - shocking. Watched the first 3 tonight. Will look at the others tomorrow (bedtime!). Thank you so much for posting this. I'm going to try to sleep tonight, but my head will be spinning with thoughts.

      Vera-b.

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        #48
        Rain in my heart

        harrowing series

        Boy the clips were hard to watch but everyone should watch them when they get their strength up.

        Yes, these people are at later stages, more hard core, but there are some things that alcohol abusers have in common. One is this idea that somehow alcohol is going to take away mental problems (the woman always pointing at her head saying. "It's up here.")

        She had been sexually abused. Ok. so exactly how does drinking make that better? Not sure why so many people choose the drinking route but the series makes it so clear that the abusive parent is the one who is winning. the abused child who becomes alcholic wins nothing, certainly not peace.

        I guess the other lesson learned that could apply down the line to a variety of probem drinkers without the severe health problems of the subjects is the repeated promise to do better, a promise that is never kept despite continued failure.

        Hard to watch but really so well done.

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          #49
          Rain in my heart

          Watching these people with so many problems made me wonder why i do drink so much.
          I have a wonderful partner, a wonderful son, two gorgeous dogs and am getting married next year... what the hell problems do I have that would make me turn to drink? The people in the videos have had such a rough time of it.
          It has to go so much deeper.. my life has changed so much for the better, yet I still drink..maybe because Im scared of losing it and returning to the hard life I had before.
          Time to address these issues I guess, and not just soley rely on supplements/med help.
          ?I am playing all the right notes... But not necessarily in the right order.....?

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            #50
            Rain in my heart

            Maybe you do have issues Chelle- I mean Vanda certainly did, but I can honestly say I don't apart from life's usual ups and downs, then I make myself more problems because I dont deal with the first ones.

            I don't see that Paul had any major issues in the documentary.

            I think I began drinking because I thought it was cool, grown up, then came to Spain where it is part of the job, and before I knew it I was addicted. I am sure some people drink to numb pain, but that may not be the case with everyone?

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              #51
              Rain in my heart

              Hey Chelle, I remember having the same thoughts: I have a stable marriage, two kids--a girl and a boy, the SUV (before they were bad for the environment (?), but a great family car for beach excursions), the family dog (a very expensive Beagle), secure employment, (we're both teachers) and on and on. I have not experienced the personal violence that many alcoholics have but why has the drink consumed me? Was my violence my partying parents through- out my growing up? Is it the genetic make-up of my cells? It is probably all of that, yet, I can make choices. I can decide whether or not to buy wine at the store. Why is it so hard?
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                #52
                Rain in my heart

                I still have 2 to watch but it reminds me all too much of when my BIL was in hospital with pancreatitis due to excess alcohol, his experience has fortunately shocked him into not drinking - he's been AF for 2 years now. Opposite him were 2 cirrhosis patients, one of which died during his stay in hospital. The other had to walk around with a catheter like bag to drain off fluid from his liver - he was quite annoying - he kept saying in a loud voice 'IT'S NOT A CATHETER! IT'S NOT URINE IN HERE IT'S DRAINING FLUID FROM MY LIVER!' and went around showing visitors where the tube entered his body!!! It was this whole experience that made me think about my drinking - it subdued me for a while, but then for some reason you become complacent again... you wouldn't think so would you? Watching that documentary made me think... 'That could have been me...'
                Listen for God's voice in everything you do, everywhere you go; He's the one who will keep you on track. Proverbs 3:6 The Message

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                  #53
                  Rain in my heart

                  This is horrible. What we do to ourselves! Thank you for posting it! I agree, this should be a stickey- available to members at all times. I think it would be an awsome tool. If members could bring themselves to watch, at least one, when they are tempted, before taking action. This would definately make me reconsider taking a drink! I will recommend this to a couple of individuals I know. I have only viewed through 4. I will finish the series as time allows. Thank you!
                  "It wasn't all I wanted, but all I could stand!":bigwink: Alcohol free since April 8, 2008

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                    #54
                    Rain in my heart

                    Lots of people round here think it matters what you drink- although I am living proof that is doesnt- 90% of my drinks have probably been beer- the other 10% being what I drink when the beer has run out or someone plonks a glass of something else in front of me.

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                      #55
                      Rain in my heart

                      Yep, doesn't matter what you drink - AL is AL!
                      Listen for God's voice in everything you do, everywhere you go; He's the one who will keep you on track. Proverbs 3:6 The Message

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                        #56
                        Rain in my heart

                        Yes- we have to stop looking at how it is packaged.

                        Today I was thinking of a nice cold frosty can with a great design on it. When in truth it is drops of poison mixed in with some other stuff. Once I started seeing the can of beer as what it really was the nice thoughts about it soon dropped away.

                        Also thoughts of these people in the documentary really are helping to put me off the stuff, and along with the Antabuse making it impossible for me to drink life is finally looking a bit brighter

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                          #57
                          Rain in my heart

                          WOW! I just watch all 10 of the clips. So shocking and really sad and very scarey what we do to ourselves. It's a wake up call for me and I will re watch again and again because it's what's going to happen if we continue to abuse ourselves. Thank you so much for posting. Everyone needs to see it.
                          When you come to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.
                          -- Franklin D Roosevelt --

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                            #58
                            Rain in my heart

                            What scares me is that all of these people seemed to have some level of brain damage. I guess it figures that that will happen but boy is is frightening to see.
                            Living now and not just existing since 9th July 2008
                            Nicotine Free since 6th February 2009

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                              #59
                              Rain in my heart

                              Sticky

                              One2,
                              Try PMing RJ -- she will be able to tell you, or know what to do.

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                                #60
                                Rain in my heart

                                Definitely should be a sticky.
                                When you come to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.
                                -- Franklin D Roosevelt --

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