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    AF ARMY September 22 2008

    limers...lol
    To Infinity And Beyond!!

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      AF ARMY September 22 2008

      Checkin page 8 out right now!

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        AF ARMY September 22 2008

        Marbella, you are exactly right:
        it is something to do with 'Leaving a Sinking Ship Syndrome' - people around you are getting off, and you know deep down it is really stupid to stay on, but because you can't at that time make the leap off, at least having others on with you makes you feel better.
        There is this sort of desperate desire to be around others who are making the same awful decisions that you are, also, and the feeling that there is some sort of safety and lack of judgment (not to mention critical thinking) in numbers.... I am SO SO glad to be out of that horrible place.

        wip

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          AF ARMY September 22 2008

          Hey girls..rocky 4 is on sky1 tnt at 10.30.
          Sea...post some more pics so i can gaze at them while you ladies watch dolf!
          To Infinity And Beyond!!

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            AF ARMY September 22 2008

            I see ....dissapointed now , thought something mad happened on page 8!!

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              AF ARMY September 22 2008

              WIP and Marbs. Its so strange that feeling. When i park my car in newport where the drinkers are all together drinking there cider there is a part of me that wants to sit with them, get pissed, not have a care in the world. I know that that would not be the case, but i think its part of the reason im compelled to watch them
              Sea..im making this up by the way, i am an angel.
              To Infinity And Beyond!!

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                AF ARMY September 22 2008

                See!!!

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                To Infinity And Beyond!!

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                  AF ARMY September 22 2008

                  feeling a bit giddy now , do you know I think ive a better sence of humour when im not drinking , and I think i only ever have fun when im boozeing??Go figure!

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                    AF ARMY September 22 2008

                    and dont forget that bird of yours Cy!

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                      AF ARMY September 22 2008

                      Yeah, yeah, ya dirty old man. LOL. You think I have tatoos. You should see hers. OMG
                      Trying to find a pic of the "pumpkin" My soon to be 22 year old son, but he is always making goofy faces. He has been doing that since he was a baby.
                      "Decide-Which Voice in Your Head you Can Keep Alive" (Shinedown)

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                        AF ARMY September 22 2008

                        A Work in Progress;419613 wrote: Whatever it takes, StartingO... you can do this!

                        Those of us who "can't handle it" may very well be seen by others as "nutters," and so we are often afraid to tell anyone the truth about why we are not drinking. It's a damn shame, really, because once we "come out" and let people know the truth, things get a lot easier.

                        But I totally recommend the "antibiotic" line, or "losing weight," or whatever works, especially early on, when everything seems so shaky and scary. And I think the MOST important thing about these events is to make a firm decision, early on, not to engage in any sorts of arguments or debates, either internal or with others, about why you aren't drinking.

                        I'm ashamed to say that I remember a time when I pressured someone to drink, a former drinking buddy who had stopped drinking... I think there was a sort of envy that I couldn't acknowledge, that my friend was doing something admirable, something I knew I was not yet able to do.

                        Anyhow, you just don't want to let yourself get engaged in any of those debates. They will drag you down into a place where you really don't want to go.

                        wip
                        Thanks wipster, I am going to drive so that will help. They all see me as a big drinker though but if I am driving well that will be that! The thing that worries me is that it might be rather obvious that I am not enjoying myself......I really struggle with socialising at the best of times even when I was drinking I found it hard
                        Living now and not just existing since 9th July 2008
                        Nicotine Free since 6th February 2009

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                          AF ARMY September 22 2008

                          I have to keep pressing F5 to refresh the page for new posts. Is there any other way?
                          To Infinity And Beyond!!

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                            AF ARMY September 22 2008

                            A Work in Progress;419655 wrote: Marbella, you are exactly right: There is this sort of desperate desire to be around others who are making the same awful decisions that you are, also, and the feeling that there is some sort of safety and lack of judgment (not to mention critical thinking) in numbers.... I am SO SO glad to be out of that horrible place.

                            wip
                            Here the problem I have had is that the alcoholics are the majority- if you don't drink among the expat community you are most definately in the minority.

                            Most of the people here I have known since I was 16, and they are like family, it is very hard to break from them completely. However there won't be many left soon- they are dropping like flies.

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                              AF ARMY September 22 2008

                              cymru;419664 wrote: See!!!
                              phwoar!!!!!!!!!! thats cheered me up no end!! thanks KP!
                              Living now and not just existing since 9th July 2008
                              Nicotine Free since 6th February 2009

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                                AF ARMY September 22 2008

                                Id say your a funny little fecker all the time!

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