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[Determinator]

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Karl, there have been some real horror stories here regarding drinking on AD's. I'd definitely go AF if possible even if only for long enough to get yourself feeling right again.

and regarding your doc, you can give him a phone call for free perhaps? can't hurt to try.

what you have sounds like the "depersonalization" that can happen after long term use of certain benzo type drugs. I would look into it.

hoping the best for you mate.

[Seacailin]

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Karl,
So happy to see you here. I was wondering where you had gone. I was on antidepressants for years. Doctors here have a tendency to put all alkies on them for some reason. During a period of sobriety back in 2003, I decided that I did not want to take them anymore for the same reasons that you described. I felt like I could feel nothing, emotionally. I wanted to "feel" my feelings. With the help of my doctor, I tapered off. I know that if I do not drink, I do not get depressed. Sobriety is my anti-depressant now. I never heard of the particular drug that you are on, but I do know that AL counteracts the intended effects of anti-depressants. I do hope that you get this sorted out. Please let us know how you are doing.

[Boss.man]

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Karl,

I hear ya! Been there done that.

Avanza: Mirtazapine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Mechanism of action: It is thought to work by blocking presynaptic Alpha-2 adrenergic receptors that normally inhibit the release of the neurotransmitters norepinephrine (noradrenaline) and serotonin, thereby increasing active levels in the synapse. Mirtazapine is a potent antagonist of 5-HT2 and 5-HT3 receptors. "

Translation: This is going to deaden your moods.

I was on Zoloft about 10 years ago, for a month or so. I went to the doctor for a "fix" and the doctor gave me Zoloft. The doctor didn't warn me that aside from saving me from feeling bad, the pills also saved me from feeling good, or feeling anything. It completely eliminated my sex drive and even (I swear) my ability to enjoy food or the company of friends.

Like you, I decided I was better off feeling bad, than not feeling at all.

I think you know the next step. Good luck, and we'll be here to help.

[kriger]

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Karl,
I just found this on Drug.com. It says that your drug is just morphine and highly addictive...not to be taken w/ alcohol. Does your Dr. know about your alcohol use?

Avinza
Generic Name: morphine (MOR feen)
Brand Names: Avinza, Kadian, Morphine IR, MS Contin, MSIR, Oramorph SR, Roxanol

What is Avinza?


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Avinza is in a group of drugs called narcotic pain relievers.

Avinza is used to treat moderate to severe pain. It is for use when around-the-clock pain relief is needed. It is not for treating pain just after surgery unless you were already taking morphine before the surgery.

Avinza may also be used for purposes other than those listed in this medication guide.

Important information about Avinza
You may not be able to take this medicine unless you are already being treated with a similar opioid pain medicine and your body is tolerant to it. Talk with your doctor if you are not sure you are opioid-tolerant.

Avinza may be habit-forming and should be used only by the person it was prescribed for. Avinza should never be given to another person, especially someone who has a history of drug abuse or addiction. Keep the medication in a secure place where others cannot get to it. Do not drink alcohol while you are using Avinza. Dangerous side effects or death can occur when alcohol is combined with Avinza. Check your food and medicine labels to be sure these products do not contain alcohol.
Never take more than your prescribed dose of Avinza. Tell your doctor if the medicine seems to stop working as well in relieving your pain.

Do not stop taking Avinza suddenly, or you could have unpleasant withdrawal symptoms. Talk to your doctor about how to avoid withdrawal symptoms when stopping the medication.
Before using

Avanza is the same as Avinza.

[startingover]

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Karl hun I am going to pm you right now. hang in there sweetie

[Seacailin]

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Ah, thanks Boss, mirtazepine. Now I do know what that is. Here is the states, it is called Remeron. I had "exactly" the same experience with zoloft. So good to be off of all AD's.

[Karl1981]

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hey all, well sorry to rekindle this thread,

Im still taking the tablets, and still the same outcome. i dont want to stop now. im im getting use to feeling nothing. im drinking a bit now again, and i dont feel anything. not drunk, not anything.. ive been asleep for 17 hours last night. now fighting trying to get to sleep tonight.. its 3:30 am. and nothing feel wide awake, even after drinking.. weird...

now im thinking i dont want to stop drinking, as its doing nothing to me anymore..

the bonus of these tablets is i have started putting on a little weight.. 5klgs in a week or two. yay..

karl

[startingover]

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Hi Karl, you KNOW what I think....but it is up to you. Just ask yourself if the drink isnt doing anything then why do it?
I know when I was drinking my tablets didnt work. When I stopped I was able to start sorting myself out. It is SO hard but you can do it you know you can. Your body will struggle with the tablets and the drink, give yourself a chance to heal. Here for you hun.

[hippie37]

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Hey Karl! I've been on a few Anti-D's in my time and I think only ONE had any noticeable effect that didn't cause me some distress as to whether I still had any feelings left inside me. I first took seroxat way back in the early nineties and YES it stopped me feeling depressed......It stopped me feeling full stop. When I tried to come off it after a number of years those feelings came flooding back and I couldn't handle it. I would go from being happy to feeling almost suicidal within hours. I was coming back from work one day in a mates van and I just burst into tears because I heard some sad song on the radio, that I didn't even like!! He thought I was nuts! But that just went to prove to me that those Anti-D's were literally numbing me rather than making me feel better and enhancing my moods. It took me nearly 8 months to ween myself of that drug and in the end I had to do it by taking it in liquid form and gradually water the bottle down.

I can be quite melancholic but I'd rather feel that and learn to flow with it rather than suppress it until maybe further down the line I explode. Part of not drinking is being able to get back in touch with our emotions that have been already scrambled and confused by our drinking. As you say stopping drinking for me was the easy part but learning to cope and deal with life skills was hard going. Alcohol robbed those necessary skills from me when I should of been learning them growing up as a teenager. I missed the boat totally! So I'm having to do all that know at the age of 38.

There are many Anti-D's out there Karl and maybe you should approach your GP again as to what one he/she thinks is best for you. I always saw them like 'the pill' Many woman don't get the right one at first and it plays havoc with their hormones etc. You have to get the right one that's best for you. My last one which I stopped about 7 months ago was Mirtazapine and I ballooned into a fat fucker within a matter of weeks. Water retention EVERYWHERE it seemed!! I'm only a skinny little runt who weighed in at only nearly 144Kgs for a 5"11 guy. I was about 28Kgs underweight and I ended up the opposite!!. Jeez man I'm only getting rid of it NOW and getting back to my normal skinny underweight self!!.

As far as the drinking goes mate I have to agree with what someone else said earlier. If it's having no effect why waste your money, for one, and what good will it do you adding more chemicals to the equasion.

I fuck'n loath chat rooms Karl but if you wanna pm me anytime feel free mate. I'll get back to you ASAP. I'm here in the UK in Liverpool so the time difference may hinder me in getting back straight away but I'll reply as soon as I can.

Love and Happiness
Hippie
xx

p.s. Is it just alcohol that's the problem or do you use any recreational drugs as well? I used to be a total drink/drug binger who grew up around the free-festival/ New-Age Travellers/Squat Party/Raves/etc. and changing that lifestyle has been major for me. I'm still struggling to be honest after 15 months but I'm trying to change a lifetime of conditioning concerning my alcohol/drug consmption.

Love and Happiness
Hippie
xx

[Waiting for his way out]

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Hey Karl, how about that rescued pet??? waiting to hear from you...
hope you feel better when you wake up in a brand new day.

[Guest]

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Karl1981;423478 wrote: GYCO

ive dont the 100+ days af ive done weeks AF+. ive proved it to myself i can do it. now with the tablets it takes all the 'bad' affects of drinking away. no blackout, no being a 'Pr*ck' to people ect. and i get along with my family again. terrible i know but true.

Its just you should feel sad after my horific break up. and loosing my life. but on these i dont. its really weird.. i am by no means depressed. im like i used to be when i was a teenager stoned or tripping like you said... just blank.. really weird feeling..

thanks for all your ears...

Karl , im sorry you are feeling empty , but as you said yourself ...you did this before so you will do it again!Tomorrow is another day and we will be here for you , waiting for you on the af army thread!:l

[rubywillow]

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Karl, you're breaking my heart. I can't begin to give you advice, but I have learned that when we begin to abuse AL, our emotional deveolpment stops, so if you've been drinking since a teen and you sober up and try to stop years later, you have emotional catching up to do. Please care for yourself, because we care for you.