Hi
Some of the posts recently have reminded me of a website item I read a while back, regarding Audrey Kishline, founder of Moderation Management who went on to drink and drive and was involved in a fatal accident:
Everything in Moderation The debate over alcohol: Is one too many?
Here is an excerpt:
Let us take one last look at the Kishline situation. Since she had given up on moderation and was failing at abstinence, what could have been done? Apparently, Audrey (to whom I had not spoken in five years) had no one nearby to whom she could confess that she was actively drinking. It was simply too embarrassing and scary. But if there had been a way for Audrey to deal with this reality — for example, by enlisting family or friends to make sure she did not drive while she tried to resolve her drinking crisis, two human beings might still be alive.There is no treatment for people in active alcoholic crisis in the U.S. No one would treat Audrey if she admitted to getting drunk nightly — whether they were instructing her to quit or to reduce her drinking. Yet there are more active alcoholics than ever before. If you cannot abstain, presumably forever, you are on your own. This doesn't prevent many people from drinking alcoholically, and worse, from harming themselves and others while doing so. But at least we can proudly state, "We told them not to drink!"
I agree with Thankful that some long term successful people have left because they were attacked for being good at sobriety. That is just wrong. I think on the whole, the site is supportive of people who are still drinking and should be. We need successful people here and if you are struggling, many others are too and you definitely are not alone.
Some of the posts recently have reminded me of a website item I read a while back, regarding Audrey Kishline, founder of Moderation Management who went on to drink and drive and was involved in a fatal accident:
Everything in Moderation The debate over alcohol: Is one too many?
Here is an excerpt:
Let us take one last look at the Kishline situation. Since she had given up on moderation and was failing at abstinence, what could have been done? Apparently, Audrey (to whom I had not spoken in five years) had no one nearby to whom she could confess that she was actively drinking. It was simply too embarrassing and scary. But if there had been a way for Audrey to deal with this reality — for example, by enlisting family or friends to make sure she did not drive while she tried to resolve her drinking crisis, two human beings might still be alive.There is no treatment for people in active alcoholic crisis in the U.S. No one would treat Audrey if she admitted to getting drunk nightly — whether they were instructing her to quit or to reduce her drinking. Yet there are more active alcoholics than ever before. If you cannot abstain, presumably forever, you are on your own. This doesn't prevent many people from drinking alcoholically, and worse, from harming themselves and others while doing so. But at least we can proudly state, "We told them not to drink!"
I agree with Thankful that some long term successful people have left because they were attacked for being good at sobriety. That is just wrong. I think on the whole, the site is supportive of people who are still drinking and should be. We need successful people here and if you are struggling, many others are too and you definitely are not alone.
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