AF Army 24th Otober 2008

[Guest]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

Cy, you know where we are if you need us!

[A Work in Progress]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

Cy, I am sorry that you are feeling so torn apart. Conflicting demands, and a lot of stress. I have to say this, though: your life is going to continue to feel like this (full of conflict and misery) until you make freedom from alcohol your #1 priority. Right now, it has to go ahead of your daughter, ahead of your gf, ahead of looking for a job. And this work of recovery from alcoholism has to be viewed like a job, not like a hobby. Pick a treatment method: MWO, AA, another treatment program, whatever, and tell everyone and everything else in your life that they will have to step back until you have a very strong pattern of being free from alcohol and knowing how to continue being free from alcohol.

If you put your gf ahead of the work of recovery, if you even put spending time with your daughter ahead of the work of recovery, you WILL lose them. No question about it.

I'm saying all this to you because I care about you and I can see you going down the tubes over this. Only you can put a stop to your downhill slide, and you can only do that by getting your priorities straight.

wip

[rubywillow]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

Cym. good morning, & to all as well. Just up, & have only read the last 2 posts. Remember what i told you, Sweetie. It's not selfishness, it's self survival. You're no good to anyone unless you're good to yourself. Love, Rubes

[Captnjack]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

Cy I think Gia summed it up perfectly!!! why do you have to be backed up into a corner hope all will be well you are in my thoughts mate
Love cap

[A Work in Progress]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

Gia, why would anyone "pelt" you about what you said? I think everyone here agrees that the ultimatum Cy got was totally wrong! But he's going to have to deal with it... he says he is choosing to stop coming to MWO... which is very sad, especially since it does not sound as if he has another treatment method set up... I am worried about where things will go from here, for him...

[rubywillow]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

Going back to read posts now. Cym, we are just here as a sounding board. You are the man who must make the decisions and live with them. There is very good reasoning here, and SO much love, but this is your life, and again, your choice. I just hope you choose life. There will be many choices later if you do.

[A Work in Progress]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

Gia;450933 wrote: Well, you know how things go on here sometimes.
I agree WIP, he's under too much right now and given that choice, it does not sound like a healthy situation to be in for him. I hope he finds another avenue like AA, or a councelor. But honestly, if she can't handle him talking to people over the internet how can she cope with him talking face to face?

Yeah, Gia, I do know how things can go! Sometimes painfully!

And I totally agree with you, and I think all the regular characters on this thread do, as well. I'm worried about him but, as Ruby points out, he's a grown-up (although in a very vulnerable place, psychologically) and has to make (and learn from) his own choices. We all do.

[LookingToGrow]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

Morning/afternoon peeps :wings:

[rubywillow]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

I have never seen an ultimatum, nor a decision based on guilt, end well. We just have to respect Cym's wishes, pray for him, and when/if he comes back, welcome him with open (cyber) arms.

[Guest]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

I was having a showr and when i came out i cought hubby , standing on the bannisters peeking through the bathroom window on top of the door peeking! Feckin dope! Now hes belly acheing we dont show enough effection!! Imean whats his problem , he has hes last sat night , I thought that would do him 3-4 weeks! Greedy , peeping tom fecker!

[vlad]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

[LookingToGrow]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

We have to keep in mind that the choice to not stay on the MWO path was made by Chef KP, not us. We need to look at it as if we are a local group meeting for AA and a member has moved to another neighborhood and joined another group. I am too fragile at this point to worry too much about another's choices. I have to focus on my own. That may sound bitchy but that is how I feel this AM.

[rubywillow]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

GOOD FOR HIM, LIMERS!!!!!! Many women WISH their hubs wanted to see them in the shower. Try a little sweet, sexy seduction. It works WONDERS for their egos (they're such simple beasts) LOL and he'll do anything for you. Want all the details later!!!!!LMAO

[LookingToGrow]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

limers;450951 wrote: I was having a showr and when i came out i cought hubby , standing on the bannisters peeking through the bathroom window on top of the door peeking! Feckin dope! Now hes belly acheing we dont show enough effection!! Imean whats his problem , he has hes last sat night , I thought that would do him 3-4 weeks! Greedy , peeping tom fecker!

I think it's cute, Limers! He still loves you and thinks you're a hottie :h

[Guest]

AF Army 24th Otober 2008

I will always be here for you Ltg..love you.