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    #46
    Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

    individualnz;766943 wrote: So do you think l glut is okay with prozac? I too am on 40mg and struggling, need to up it more or try something else, and I would much prefer it to be natural.

    Thanks once again for all the info

    regards indiv
    Hi Indiv,
    I take 40 mg of prozac a day and am now back to 10000 mg of lglut. I take it in powdered form so I take 1 teaspoon in the morning and another at about 5pm.
    I can honestly say that with this and the other aminos I take, the difference iin my mood has been astounding. Boozy also pointed out to me that a few months ago when I stopped my supplements (to save money) my mood crashed again.
    Soooo I think that is a lesson learned.
    Living now and not just existing since 9th July 2008
    Nicotine Free since 6th February 2009

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      #47
      Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

      individualnz;766994 wrote: Hmmm its all interesting stuff. I will definately give it a try. I did try Bac for help with cravings etc, sadly it did not agree with me, so Im all for any help I can get. So have you completely kicked the habit?? I too am a miss bingey, however my binges are horrific and coming closer and closer together. At least 3x per week, the rest of time is recovery. Wine time or the witching hour tomorrow and Im gonna try that Glut. Thanks boozy you have given me new hope when before I was gutted about the failing of Bac.

      regards Indiv
      Neither boozy or I have had a drink for well over a year.
      Good luck indiv
      Living now and not just existing since 9th July 2008
      Nicotine Free since 6th February 2009

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        #48
        Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

        Wow that is incredible!! good on the both of you, and thankyou Starting Over for all the valuable info you have provided. I think my mood is partly responsible for this nasty habit, so if I could perhaps get on top of the mood and the cravings then I could start my way to the end of the pool where you guys are!!!!

        Regards Indiv

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          #49
          Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

          hi guys just a quickie as must dash out, but I love this thread it's jammed with info, I don't want it dropping down the line and out of site !!!!!!!

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            #50
            Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

            I agree

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              #51
              Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

              I think if you drink on anti depressants it actually makes the depression worse rather than better. So many people report that depression especially the alcohol related depression (rather than clinical depression) improves once they get some AF time under their belt. Keep trying and you will eventually find something that works - and let us know how you both get on with the l-glut.
              M

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                #52
                Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

                First, thanks for posting all this information. I just finished the book "The Diet Cure" and I'm confused with all the information. Tell me if I heard this correctly. To help with cravings, L-glutamine, about 2000 mg a day and l-tryptophan, about 500 mg. a day will be helpful for cravings and mood stability, among other things. Gaba and 5-HTP are not needed. Please let me know, and thanks for taking the time to help. It does explain the insanity of cravings and drinking when we know the results will be living hell.
                Redhibiscus
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                  #53
                  Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

                  I bought this book, but I haven't read it yet. I have been pretty lax in taking my supps lately since I have been af and nf for over a year now.

                  I do have sugar and carb cravings though--so I suppose I should keep taking my supps--the Allone, etc???? What do you think Boozehag??
                  :thanks:
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                    #54
                    Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

                    Hi Red
                    I am no expert on any of this - I just figure out what worked for me. But I would say 4000-6000 of l-glutamine a day would be better especially starting out and 500mg l-tryptophan would be okay although you could take more once as you get used to it. I will post some stuff from Dr google on this. And yes it is either 5 http or l-trytophan or GABA as they all does the same thing so its one of them not all of them - it depends I suppose on what you can get where you live as some places dont sell l-tryptopan.
                    M

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                      #55
                      Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

                      Hi LVT
                      Yes l-glut is the bomb for carb and sugar cravings! That is why people on low carb diets take it. I am sure the Allone is magic stuff so if you have it I would keep taking it. I couldnt stomach it unfortunately.
                      M

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                        #56
                        Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

                        Here is some more stuff from google.

                        One of the main reasons to consider L-Glutamine supplementation, however, is "closer to the heart" of the low carb dieter! That is, it's ability to relieve symptoms of craving. L-Glutamine appears to act on the brain directly to naturally suppress and relieve cravings.

                        "Glutamic acid, with the help of vitamin B6 and manganese, is also a precursor of gaba (gamma-aminobutyric acid), an important neurotransmitter in the central nervous system. Glutamic acid helps transport potassium into the spinal fluid and is itself an excitatory neurotransmitter. (gaba, however, is inhibitory.) Glutamic acid thus has been used in the treatment of fatigue, parkinsonism, schizophrenia, mental retardation, muscular dystrophy, and alcoholism.

                        Supplemented as L-Glutamine, it penetrates the blood-brain barrier and can be used as a brain fuel. Research has shown that L-Glutamine, in a dose of 500 mg. four times daily, decreases the craving for alcohol.

                        This amino acid is now commonly used in alcoholism clinics. L-Glutamine also seems to reduce the craving for sugar and carbohydrates and so may be helpful for some people in dealing with obesity or sugar abuse. It may also help in the healing of ulcers.

                        So we see that L-Glutamine is extremely useful in fighting cravings, especially those related to carbohydrate and sugar!
                        This is a major reason to consider L-Glutamine if you are burdened with uncontrollable desire for carbohydrates. In one study, on a college campus, two groups of students were allowed free access to vending machines with high sugar foods. One group was given L-Glutamine while the other was given a placebo. The placebo group consumed four times as much sweets as the L-Glutamine group.

                        L-Glutamine has been used, with great success in fighting other types of cravings and addictions. In a controlled study a group of Alcoholics were supplemented with L-Glutamine without their knowledge (L-Glutamine is odorless.) A reduction in alcohol consumption was seen in 77% of the cases.

                        "The amino acid (protein building block) glutamine appears to blunt the craving for alcohol in human research studies. Take 200 mg glutamine in tablet or capsule form 5 times daily for 6 weeks. If effective, your response should be improvement of sleep, lessened anxiety, and a reduced desire to drink."4

                        Supplementation with L-Glutamine is recommended to suppress cravings while dieting, or while fighting any uncontrolled urge. L-Glutamine is the "craving fighter!"

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                          #57
                          Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

                          I have noticed my need for sweet food has been cut dramatically since I started back with lglut on Friday. Plus I have felt much calmer mentally. Lglut really is brilliant.
                          I am taking 10000 mg of lglut a day.
                          Living now and not just existing since 9th July 2008
                          Nicotine Free since 6th February 2009

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                            #58
                            Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

                            And it makes you run faster! That is if your body does not crap out on you.
                            For me the supplementation of l-glut and sero-tonic (l-tryptophan and vit b) was just right but the l-tryp does make you a bit sleepy but you can counteract that with coffee - or not if you want to use it as a sleep aid. People on AD's cannot take 5-htp or l-tryp unfortunately as they risk serotonin overload.
                            M

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                              #59
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                              Here is a cut and paste from the other thread CV1 posted n research that RV has just bumped.
                              This is so true for me. Being a binge drinker I know now that my AL cravings were really sugar cravings as when I binge drank I overloaded with sugar (AL) and then crashed and burned then craved again hence keeping the binge drinking cycle going endlessly. The l-glut keeps the sugar/AL craving at bay.
                              M

                              90-95% of alcoholics are hypoglycemic, including alcoholics who have not had a drink in years. Hypoglycemia can cause depression, digestive disorders, muscle pain, numbness, lack of sex drive, allergies, poor concentration and memory, muscle twitching, nightmares, anxiety, fear, shortness of breath, fatigue, and dizziness.
                              Let's look at basic sugar chemistry. Each time you consume any form of sugar, whether processed white sugar, fruit, or alcohol, your pancreas releases insulin in response to a rise in blood sugar (glucose). Insulin temporarily binds to glucose and transports it across cell membranes into our cells. Glucose is our body's main fuel and our brain's only fuel.
                              After insulin “drives” glucose into the cells, blood sugar drops. Let's say that your baseline blood glucose before breakfast is 80. Thirty to sixty minutes after breakfast (or the consumption of sugar), your blood sugar might rise to 150. After insulin transports glucose into our cells, glucose in the blood drops. In the healthy individual, glucose slowly and steadily declines over a five-hour period until it is back at your baseline (80, for example). In the healthy individual, glucose will not drop below your baseline. Things are quite different for the hypoglycemic. One to two hours after eating, glucose will drop from its high point (150, for example), and will plunge below baseline. Let's say that your glucose drops to 60. It will take several hours for your glucose to slowly climb back to baseline (80). During those hours of hypoglycemia your brain will be deprived of glucose and you may feel depressed, anxious, shaky, confused, and tired. People with fatigue and depression 2 to 4 hours after eating are dealing with hypoglycemia.
                              The alcoholic “cures” his hypoglycemia by drinking, for alcohol is loaded with sugar. Each sip of alcohol temporarily increases your glucose. Briefly, you will feel better and may even function better. However, alcohol is the worst source of glucose you can find.
                              If you are hypoglycemic, you may feel as if you are on a mental and physical roller coaster, and probably don't know why. Over time, your pancreas has a more difficult time creating insulin in response to the sugar you ingest, and so insulin-glucose chemistry becomes impaired.
                              The stress of hypoglycemia causes your adrenals to work overtime, releasing the hormones epinephrine and cortisol. Epinephrine causes your liver to break down glycogen into glucose. We'll talk more about the adrenal glands in a minute. For now, it is important to understand that blood sugar problems steadily pound away at the adrenals.
                              Treating Hypoglycemia
                              To begin to manage low blood sugar, you will need to change your diet by restricting sugar and low quality carbohydrates. Fruits, vegetables, and some grains are high quality carbohydrates. Junk foods and pasta are low quality carbs, and they break down quickly into sugar. By eliminating sugar, you can finally give your pancreas a rest.
                              Here are nutritional supplements that will help with sugar metabolism and will decrease sugar cravings:
                              L-Glutamine, an amino acid that decreases sugar cravings.

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                                #60
                                Amino Acids, The Mood Cure

                                Hi All

                                I started L Glut yesterday, I took 900mg in total 3x daily. Maybe a little less anxious (hard to tell cause of blooming PMT LOL)

                                Took same amount today, and broke a capsule straight after work and ate it...... not bad really, bit powdery but tastes fine! No real reduction in cravings.

                                Do you think it takes time to build up in your system before it truly starts to take effect??

                                Kind regards Indiv .

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