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[fickle]

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tawnyfrog;759445 wrote: Heads up, everybody:
Tomorrow, Thursday November 19th is World Toilet Day.
That gives you 12 hours to organise something special to celebrate this international event.

2.6 billion people - that is four in ten people in the world have no toilet
That is truly astonishing... and horrid. I recently listened to a news story where a teenage girl in a village in africa was a volunteer with other school friends who went around cleaning up garbage in their village, described what is known as a 'flying toilet'. It is the very worst kind of garbage they have to pick up.

[fickle]

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Later peeps.. keep up the good work everyone.. I will try hard to think how best to celebrate tomorrow's big event... perhaps by cleaning the toilet?
Hugs,
Fickle

[byebyebridgetjones]

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aspman;759472 wrote: wow, you so lucky! do you know what type of snake it was?
6 foot shed would prob be 4 1/2 5ft snake.
smooth scales or keeled, single belly scale or divided?
now i need to reed up on snake of the world, only have experiance with aussie types. :thanks:

Yeah Ruby,
You're REALLY.... erm.....lucky...........

[fickle]

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Just wanted to share some of my thoughts on depression and what form my PLAN is taking. Last night really got me thinking about pain and dispair and how sometimes it can make you crazy and bite people. Any animal would do the same really, it?s only natural to lose control when highly distressed. I also thought a lot about how hard and scary it can be to open up and express feelings of pain and distress, especially to someone who may seem impatient or unsympathetic, and how that can add shame and more pain on top of an already overloaded emotional state. A person who has successfully quit anything will always engender feelings of envy, unfairness and even some inferiority in a person still struggling to quit. We have a special term here in Australia for people who are on the other side of disaster offering helpful advice, ?Mondays Experts?. Someone with the benefit of hindsight is rarely able to appreciate the position of someone without it. A person struggling painfully is going to feel resentful of well meaning advice coming from someone perceived as comfortable and glib. It is human nature to feel a bit clever once one successfully escapes trouble.. And why not? I guess the two sorts of feelings are going to clash. I have seen it happen many times on these boards and hope that both Tips and Waves can appreciate it?s nothing personal really, just human nature and all part of the struggle. I sincerely hope we can all keep bobbing along keeping each other afloat - I would hate to lose either of you from our thread.. Youse guys are like family!

I had a good friend (also named David) on these boards who I talked to for more than a year who suffered depression but beat it eventually. He got himself a psychologist who gave him a few ideas about strategies to beat his bad thinking habits. Talking to him helped me a lot. I was going through scary bad stuff at the time and he truly kept my head above water. I hope now that my life has settled down a bit I can put into practice some of the things he taught me. Some of the things I can remember he did were to think about what things he liked doing and plan them into his life. For example he liked making jewellery so he made himself a space & time where he went and did that each week. He had some CD?s that were really relaxing and positive and whenever he felt himself going down he?d go and lie down and listen to them till he fell asleep. It was a bit of a ritual and it worked for him. He was on prozac too. He made plans to go places he liked with friends/family and then followed through. He made dates to do specific things that gave him pleasure, like a massage or taking someone he loved to a fancy restaurant. Most of all he took time each day to check in and write a little something about what he had done that was good or what thing he appreciated most that day. If he couldn?t think of anything he would look at someone else he?d met in his day and something he noticed had given them pleasure or impressed him. I would sometimes copy his posts and keep them to read again later. I think I still have one of his particularly beautiful descriptions of the sky he did called ?Davey?s clouds?. By doing these things, working at it, practicing and sticking at it he changed his thinking patterns gradually. He had a family around him and was supported. I was quite jealous actually and thought to myself ?I wish I had a nice big house & a pool & a sane partner to hug & plenty of cash for massages.. must be nice for some?.. see, I even resented that he had all that, even though he was my friend and helped me so much every day.. but that was just my crappy deprived thinking going on. But even with my tiny grumpy brain I learned a heap of technique from that guy.. He beat his depression and he beat AL in the end too.. And went off into the sunset to live happily ever after.

So! That is the blueprint for my plan?. I am going to try to transpose it onto my personal situation. Different things work for different people so it may not be jewellery or Wendi CD?s but I?ll figure out what and get on with it. (Hmmmm might even give those Wendi CD?s a try again.)

Hope this is helpful and has not pissed anyone off. ?Scuse the long post.. I wrote a book (sheesh!)

[Guest]

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WOW. That was a really great post, fickle. I really do read here much more than I participate.

I'm zipping my lips because Tawny put some kind of hex on my keyboard....

But you've made some extraordinarily insightful comments, and I hope others ... all others ... appreciate that and can see there isn't any venom there..

I don't claim to know about whatever events led to the post. I don't have enough time to read everything. But your comments stand on their own.

[tawnyfrog]

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Nice one, Ficks.

Based on last night, I've also got a long reply/thought typed up and saved on Word which I'm still working on ...

[startingover]

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Ficks, thank you, that is amazingly insightful. Thanks.

[tawnyfrog]

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... in other news

Rags has been gone for four weeks, one week to go. Can't wait for her comprehensive Buddhist nun report.

Ronnie - have you locked your MIL under the stairs yet?

Mame - sending good stuff your way.

Chook - are you headless?

Aspy - not long til Sat. which makes it 4 weeks. Yay!!!!

Bets - I read that some old fart called you 'Missy'. Did you groin them?

Minnie - back from Pilates yet?

Angel - job front news?

... Now for a word from our sponsors ...

[startingover]

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Thats impressive Tawny!

[Miss Behaving]

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Tawny - yes that was impressive!!

And so was your post Fickle. Guitarista has made an impression on me around the importance of "feeling grateful" rather than deprived stuff, and it has been part of my plan for No-Bender. It isn't always easy, but then again I know that no magic wand is available.

Actually (and with no disrespect to anyone) I sort of grinned and grimaced when I got up this morning and read the thread (and Wavey - if you are reading this, thanks for deleting your posts) .... my siblings and I have been having some big disputations about things about my mum and my brother. I'm learning that a bit of detachment goes a long way sometimes (and I speak only for myself here).

I actually had a really nice day today ... had some work to do at a place an hour up the coast. Uncle Mame needed the car so I caught the bus and had a very pleasant journey looking at the scenery and taking some time out. Pohutakawas are just about ready to flower and once they do they will look spectacular.

And our cats are being hilarious ........ kittens left us last week and mum-cat left us yesterday and Betty and Wookie are just so happy to see the visitors go!!!!! When I got back from the weekend, I came back to a bathroom in which two rolls of toilet paper had been completely shredded ... and the cats stalked in after me with looks on their faces that I just can not describe :H:H But it was something along the lines of "Well if you are going to inflict kittens on us and then f*** off for the weekend, we can make life messy for you too"!!!

There has probably been a few other cross-posts as it has taken me ages to write this (am multi-tasking and also doing washing and dishes!) ..... have a serene night everyone!!

[byebyebridgetjones]

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Good on you Mame-ster
You never cease to amaze me with your resilience in such a time.
My brother and I are anything but close ..... in some ways anyway..... but I would be devastated if he was so ill and I had to watch him deteriorate....he is my brother after all, drug addict and all.
No matter the outcome, you will be OK. You have a huge spirit.
Bridge

[Guitarista]

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Evening folk's!
A bit bloody knackered here, i am, poor love. However, a nice long weekend to relax and recover.
Hope you continue to pop in Tipster!

Keep appropriate orifices well lubed, as it's hot out there.

[byebyebridgetjones]

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Guitarista;759587 wrote: Evening folk's!
A bit bloody knackered here, i am, poor love. However, a nice long weekend to relax and recover.
Hope you continue to pop in Tipster!

Keep appropriate orifices well lubed, as it's hot out there.

*Applying shoulder massage to hard working man*
Orifices ?

[Miss Behaving]

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byebyebridgetjones;759588 wrote: *Applying shoulder massage to hard working man*
Orifices ?

I think he means drink lots of water .... dont you Mr G??!! :H I cant imagine that anyone on this thread could ever imagine any other orifices that need lubricating as we are all such clean living types .....

[Guitarista]

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Err.....thank's Bridge. Um, that's low enough....Whaa?? you want me to whaaaaat?!! No. NO Bridget. My orifices are fine thankyou. But thank's for the offer.....