THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

[Angelcakes]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

I'm great today Bridge - seriously wanted to drink yesterday - even took a sip of Mr Cakes wine but it just made me think of the regret I'd feel if I had one (and therefore the whole bottle and 1/2 pack of ciggies)...I wouldn't recommend it for anyone but it worked for me.
Today I feel calm & very very grateful.
I heard about the wet house Mame - I agree with you in that society as a whole could use a big injection of compassion when it comes to dealing with the homeless...I mean, given the choice no-one would choose that life right?? Those people are there because of circumstance which is usually out of their control. It's so hard though...my sister has been of 'no fixed address on & off for about 5yrs now - she keeps getting booted out of places because of an undiagnosed mental health issue that makes her really hard to live with (and sometimes violent) And I've stepped back after years of trying to help and her just abusing me...it just hurts too much and it's scarey - self protection. It's such a conundrum...I love her dearly but am constantly worried about when she's gonna explode.

[Angelcakes]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

byebyebridgetjones;752854 wrote: Yep Mame...it is little wonder that we drunks have formed an underground society.

Does anyone else play THIS game ?
You go to a park, shopping centre or public area, and sit there and look at the people around you, and wonder if they're hiding a drinking problem too, and if so, how WELL they are doing it.
You look for things like black circles under eyes, exhaustion, pallor, sweatiness, shaking, HEADING STRAIGHT FOR THE BOTTLE-O with a furtive look on the face. And you wonder how many more there are that aren't even displaying those signs who are struggling with that voice in their head.
'I deserve this because _______'
'I've had a crapulous day, bugger it'
'I'll go out with a bang, and start tomorrow' .......ad infinitum...
You wonder how their lives look, if they are alone because of their drinking, how ugly they look when they're drunk, how much they loathe themselves for it.
Or you look at your obvious street drunk and think " 'at least someone's 'worse' that me"(?)

AnyHoo.Enough of that gothic shite.
How are we all ?
Bridge.

Bridge - I play that game but only with women...picking out the women on the street I could relate too. For some reason I'm always surprised when I meet a woman who is my peer- similar age, married, kids - I always think they're so much older than me...in a mature way as opposed to 'you look older'. Like wow! you got your shit together, how did you DO that?? LOL

[byebyebridgetjones]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

...my sister has been of 'no fixed address on & off for about 5yrs now - she keeps getting booted out of places because of an undiagnosed mental health issue that makes her really hard to live with (and sometimes violent) And I've stepped back after years of trying to help and her just abusing me...it just hurts too much and it's scarey - self protection. It's such a conundrum...I love her dearly but am constantly worried about when she's gonna explode.
Oh dear...I have a brother who's been like that for many years now. Erodes you, doesn't it ? Like water dripping on stone really.

[byebyebridgetjones]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

Angelcakes;752857 wrote: Bridge - I play that game but only with women...picking out the women on the street I could relate too. For some reason I'm always surprised when I meet a woman who is my peer- similar age, married, kids - I always think they're so much older than me...in a mature way as opposed to 'you look older'. Like wow! you got your shit together, how did you DO that?? LOL

YEP. That's another one of my favourites :H
I even watch docos, movies etc and think the same thing about the fictional folk :H
Wonder what would have happened if I'd grown up in a different family, been born a different day, diffo name ..... 'Sliding Doors' material. Really need to pick up some work :H

[Miss Behaving]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

rubywillow;752853 wrote: Mame, get my info?

Yes I did thanks Ruby - replied to you on the nop-bender thread! Have been looking at MAcy's catalogues this morning!!

[rubywillow]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

Ooooooh, Mame! You can do lots of shopping! Just order for a pickup, and bro can go by at your designated store. All those are within 25 miles, with first the closest. I LOVE Clinique. So good to your skin. Hope you enjoy your visit with him. Can things be sent to you as a 'gift' without tariff? That way you could order, send him a check, and he could mail.

[tawnyfrog]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

It's great to see the Chook getting so excited about her garden. Here's some of my roses. I've finally figured out the upload thingie


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[ronnie]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

Morning everyone, well my mate has gone home and I am back. I drank far to much while she was here so I am doing another 30 days, I am on day 2 A/F at the moment, I am so tired as well it was non stop while she was here, I am off to watch hubbie play baseball then back home to rest (sort of), I hope you have all been keeping well, I have'nt had time to read back. chat soon Love ronnie xx

[byebyebridgetjones]

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Hi Ronnie,
Nice to see you back. Glad to hear you had a rantan with you best mate. A girl's gotta do that sometimes.
Oh my Lord Folk.
The boy has been grounded all weekend for his ongoing obnoxious behaviour.
He has responded to this with barrage of arguably even more annoying questions, comments and incessant chatter.Interspersed with more obnoxiousness.
I think he's winning folks.
Why can't we just smack 'em like the good old days ? :H

[Angelcakes]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

byebyebridgetjones;752883 wrote:
The boy has been grounded all weekend for his ongoing obnoxious behaviour.
He has responded to this with barrage of arguably even more annoying questions, comments and incessant chatter.Interspersed with more obnoxiousness.
I think he's winning folks.
Why can't we just smack 'em like the good old days ? :H

Oh geez...the talking. Mr4 DOES NOT stop talking...constant chatter. I play a game with him...get a piece of paper and you MUST be holding the piece of paper to speak...then just don't let him get the paper (it doesn't work BTW- you still need some kind of self control- he has none)
Hey Ronnie - real good to see you back - you were missed.
Beautiful roses Tawny - we have just been out & about and the jacarandas are all in bloom - bloody gorgeous. Would love to stick my nose is a rose though (ha!)

Off again.

[Angelcakes]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

byebyebridgetjones;752858 wrote: .
Oh dear...I have a brother who's been like that for many years now. Erodes you, doesn't it ? Like water dripping on stone really.

True - that's why I separate myself from it. I've only seen her once since we've been back...it's such a gamble when I call her - if I get her on a bad day, or at a bad time all hell breaks loose. But there's just no predicting the good times!! We used to have a hoot - she was my party buddy also and she's still doing it - she's 8yrs older than me - I really don't know how she does it, and again for self preservation I need to keep a slight distance.

[tiptronic_ct]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

Just a quick ***boing*** to say arvo & give the NDT girls a hug. Except Tawny, of course

[tawnyfrog]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

Phew!

Thanks for clarifyin', young Saffa.

(Thought I'd have to slap you around a bit)

[ChickenNumber3]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

Goregous roses Tawny! I have another pumpkin seedling this morn..feel truelly amazed!!!
Hope Reggie is okay? Anyone heard anything yet?
Talkative children! yep I've got two and at times my head wants to implode with all the constant stuff they keep trying to push into it!
Hope all is well folks!
Chook

[startingover]

THE NEXT DAY THREAD - NOVEMBER

Aunty Mame;752848 wrote: I hope he does too. Separations and divorces are so incrediby painful and so much more so when kids are involved. One of the bains of my life is Uncle Mame''s ex, who continually makes it extraordinarily difficult for him to see his son, despite a very clear coourt order setting out times etc. And right from the beginning of the time we got serious about each other, I was always very careful about how much I drank when he was with us, because I was so conscious that if it was commented on that it would be used against us.

I was thinking yesterday about how much stigmatism there is about alcoholism and the assumptions that people make about alcoholics. There is a current controversy here about the local council and the local health board funding a place where alcoholics who are currently on the street can go to live and get into the routines of everyday life, and hopefully get their lives back in order. It is proposed that it is a "wet house" ie; they are allowed to drink and wont get thrown out if they do. To me it makes total sense, in the sense that even those of us who have otherwise functional lives find it hard enough to stay on top of this thing - so how much more so for people who dont have a lot of structure to thier lives. But the local community is all up in arms - our children will be in danger, it will lead to increased crime, we wont be safe in our beds. And the council has now decided to witjdraw funding - and has openly said that it has no interest in a community house where people can gradully get better .... the only thing it is interested in is an inner city facility where people can go to have a shower (so they dont offend the tourists by being smelly on the streets I presume). With attitudes like that, it is no wonder that we (I) hide the truth from people ... when in fact total honesty is actually part of the path to recovery.

Sometimes it makes me want to weep.

I work in a place where people can come when they are drinking. There has never been any trouble in the time I have been there, and its a place for people to go and feel safe, not judged and get help should they want to. They tell me stories of the way they have been treated by people in authority and the general public alike. There are always reasons why people take this road. Yesterday I heard a story of an alcoholic lady who lived rough and had done for many years. She was educated, smart and had good prospects. When she was looking after someones baby she was bathing it, turned away to get a towel and the baby drowned. She couldnt live with that guilt. I dont blame that woman for wanting to shut out the pain of that for the rest of her life. I would too. How can anyone judge someone who has been through something like that? People need help and understanding with this problem. Mame, it makes me want to weep too.

Hi All, sorry for the rant