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[gyco]

yo all,havent done this for a while,when do we no we accomplished what we wanted to do,isnt just trying part of sobriety,realising what we lerned or were tot mite have been wrong,how do we handle being wronged,how do we take responsibilty,when everyone else does,when is enuff , enuff,funny thing last night,if i drank alone,i was considered alchoholic,how does one, approch the person you care about mostly,that they did the same last night,am i being judgemental,just to drink,i have had thot of late to drink,doc s wont give me meds for pain,cause i ve been in treatment,im not a drug user,im a drinker,and i am in pain,seems this viscious cycle never ceases to xist,in one way or another,:thanks:just tht id share gyco

[rubywillow]

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Gy, I'm so sorry for what you're going through. I don't understand the reasoning (?) of your doctors, not giving you meds for your pain. I understand not giving drugs to a former drug addict, but until you've experience unremitting pain, you can't understand what it does to your life. I've been going to a pain specialist for the last 8 years; in this country pain is taken seriously, finally. There's a chart from 1 to 10 for describing your pain level, and it surprises me how many times people will say their pain is a 9 or 10, 10 being the worst pain imaginable. Over all these years, with multiple broken bones, pleurisy, pneumonia, I would never describe my pain at a 10. How can we know the worst pain imaginable? But, knowing our prediliction for dependence and addiction, it seems to me a physician SHOULD prescribe something to at least make your pain bearable, especially since you're having to wait for corrective sugery. I'm praying for you, sweet boy. I wish I could do more to ease your suffering.

[mario]

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hi gyco hope you get better soon,hang on in there :-)

[Guest]

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Gyco, some medication is not prescribed to those with addictions of any kind. Sorry you're having to put up with the pain though. Hang in there. Plead your case further with your doc.

[Guitarista]

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Hang in there Gyco! There must be a doc somewhere, or health centre set-up somewhere that can help?

[hillsidetime]

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Hey Gyco, we are thinking of you, hope you are feeling better,
Hill

[gyco]

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thnx gang,i see someone today,ive been trying a health store remedy,of late,devils claw,works somwhat.i also have to phone the specialist secretary today,for an appointment,nt easy to se specialists,this is a time i wished i lived in the states,there medical stuff seams a mt more advanced then ours,emailed a place in florida,some great successes,lasor surgery,i guess if the one here dont work,could be an option,other then that it is nc to be pampered by you folks gyco

[Cinders]

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Gyco,

I am in the same boat. I suffer horrific pain at times and cannot take the pain meds because they are addictive.

They call my pain a "suicide headache" and with good reason.

I just wanted to share that I understand.

Love,
Cindi

[rubywillow]

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Gy, I'm glad you're looking at other options. Yes, from what I've read here and other places, our medical treatment is more easily accessible, if it is still horribly expensive. I've been blessed most of my married life with a terrific health plan, and have found specialists who get to know me and work with me wonderfully. I believe constant pain distorts our thinking, our relationship to the world at large to the point we use alchohol for SOME relief, even though we know the end doesn't justify the means, and we don't have a life really when we're intoxicated. There ARE pain meds that aren't addictive. As I said before, I see a pain specialist, and he recommends increasing my dosages several times before I finally do. It's also necessary to sign a contract with them that we notify them of every change in medication, from every other medical professional, so they can weed out the drug seekers. By never exceeding my prescribed doses, we've been able to work together to control my pain. The biggest thing I've learned, maybe because I'm older and have more experience, is that you can't CHASE the pain; you can alleviate it a bit, learn to control it, while you're aware it's still there. Using pain medication correctly means you have to learn what it's SUPPOSED to do, which is keeping from going nuts with the pain, controlling it to learn how to live with the minimal amount of meds and still be optimally functional. I don't know if I'm getting my point across, especially to people who have the occasional aches and pains, and not the ones who live with constant muscle spasms and deep 'bone' pain that make us pace the floor all night, or, as a late friend said once, just lie on the floor and drink, take pills, and cry. This was recognized as long ago as the 1800's, when it was called 'the tender woman syndrome', and men couldn't admit to the same problem without losing their masculinity. It's SO hard to make others understand this when most days they don't have pain, while we can't think of a day when we don't have it in multiple places. I'm sorry if I made this sound too much about myself; my intent was to let you, and others who suffer, know I understand.