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    Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

    As I sit on the brink of what I know is going to be a very real, very easy, opportunity for me to get completely wasted "legitimately" I start to feel sick and I remember.

    Legitimately is in inverted commas because the people surrounding me right now have no idea of my past, no idea that I have been to rehab, and no idea that I had a serious alcohol problem. They believe the reason I do not have my license right now is because I was speeding. I lied to them justifying it to myself as being none of their business.

    Again "legitametely" is used because there is going to be a party where I am living. They are expecting over 100 people, this party was not initiated by me but I am more than expected to take part in it. Being the relaxed, cool, jumping, jiving person that these people believe I am.

    I am sitting here thinking of how the hell I am going to get myself away from this party a whole 14 hours before it starts, at 6 in the morning no less. The pressure on me to drink is going to be intense and this, naturally, is one of the pitfalls of not wanting to reveal your past to new people and my fault, I realise this. These are not people who would push me to drink if they knew about my past but they are people who would think they were better than me if they were aware of my past and I am not the kind of person who can deal with that. I will not start a 100m race 10m behind the rest of the runners and if they knew I feel like I'd have to do that every time it came to anything. Devalued. It's not just these people, I think it's people in general. Obvoiusly people on mwo forums sympathise if not empathise but the general public in my experience do not.

    I don't want to go off on too much of a tangent here but in ways it's a sad world we live in. If people really have to look down on you to make themselves feel better about who they are who can say anything but it's a sad state of affairs. I am 30, I don't know if I would have been one of the crowd I speak of if I had not been through what I have been through in my 20's, as I'm sure most will agree having an alcohol problem is an extremely humbling experience. Honestly who knows - without having been through all I have been through I have no idea who I would be right now.

    Loss of control is something I now cannot stand - I said in my last post that I became a social drinker successfully and hated it. The whole teetering around the edge of the volcano. Not that I really ever thought I would fall in - all though I did once - but the whole concept of drinking because it is the social norm even though it was very bad for ME is mostly what I couldn't handle.

    Back to the matter at hand. I say these people in question have this specific idea (above) about who I am. Sure at heart what they perceive probably is who I am but I hide a lot, lets just say hitting 30 was a huge thing for me and stirred up a very potent emotional stew. Ask anyone (well most people) and they will tell you that to find who you really are is a tough thing to do. Ask me and I will tell you that escaping from yourself and from your life through alcohol (for most of us) or your means of choice makes it that much tougher. Firstly to find your way back to your shattered self, I found that by hitting what I consider my rock bottom, then transforming that shattered person into who you truly are. That's tough and I doubt I'll get any arguments from anyone on that one. I think most people on these forums if they couldn't exactly relate would at the very least understand.

    I feel like I am finding myself now - and over the past months - for the first time in a long time. I owe that in part to getting back to learning, study, university etc - the content I actually see matters now and more than anything else I feel better about myself when I have been studying / learning. In my last post I said that the last time I drank was the 30th of May but before that was weeks and honestly I had stopped counting because of the whole "social drinker" thing. How much easier would it be for us all if alcohol was illegal. It's seems crazy to me that a drug is so readily available and legal that causes arguably more violence than any other drug, it's fair share of OD's, and has a hand in hand association with many violent crimes (most?) - I don't have stats in front of me. Even the whole beer currancy concept that tooheys new launched, this many cartons for "helping your mate move", this many cartons for "hooking up your best friend", this many cartons for "consoling your best friend when the relationship fell apart" etc.

    Again I am straying off point but it's leading up to here. People think that drinking is cool, social, sophisticated, relaxing, harmless etc etc in moderation. That's what makes everything ok isn't it, those two words "in moderation". Not that I condone either but I doubt one toke on a majijuana cigarette is any more harmfull than a drink, it's probably less harmfull. What about starting to sell cocaine legally "use strictly in moderation". I mean where does it stop. Now at a party, with people from say 18 - 35 with a hundred or more poeple there, who actually sticks to the safe guide lines for drinking. What is it? No more than four standard drinks a day for a male with at least two alcohol free days a week? Standard drinks. Not full strength stubbies. How many people walk into a party and have 2.5 heavy beers over the course of a night and leave it at that. It may happen but if it does it happens very infrequently.

    This is the issue. I know everyone is going to be smashed / blind / use whatever word you like drunk. Wake up the next morning and think hell yeah awesome party. Me? If I got smashed / blind / use whatever word you like drunk I'd wake up the next morning and feel like my world was falling apart. For days. I just don't like being in that sort of environment anymore for any reason.

    So I have a number of options. I have an exam coming up on Thursday that I need / want to study for so I have that excuse but naturally it will be rebutted. I could make something up but I don't want to, I am just over doing that plus why should I have to. I could stay in the house and participate as a sober person but I would not enjoy that. Not because I am not drinking but because I would be surrounded by people I could not relate to and I'd get asked to drink 100 times. I could stay in the house and attempt to study but who the hell am I kidding, so I am going to remove myself from the situation. I am simply going to say that this study is not a game (it's not) and I have realised I have much more to do than I thought (I most probably do) and leave the house for a while a day or two. Go see my parents and my dogs etc - catch up. Seeing my dogs always makes me happy no matter where I am in life.

    So I am not going to forget how serious Alcohol is in my life. I find that just because I am not faced with anything right now, no consequence of an action taken while under the influence I find myself more lax. Remembering those times where you WERE faced with CONSEQUENCES of actions carried out while under the influence and how deathly serious it can be is winning.

    Well it's winning for me anyway.

    #2
    Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

    Wow. This all sounds really complicated. All of this over a party?? Why not just not drink? You might THINK you need an excuse, but you really don't. Trust me on this.

    I used to think in large and complicated circles too. I projected into the future and envisioned all kinds of scenarios that sometimes did, but way more often didn't come true. What a waste of energy!

    I finally realized that nobody really gives a shit whether I drink or not, so long as they can do whatever drinking they want to do. (or not do) It was quite a revelation when I realized that everyone's attention is NOT, in fact, on me. Far from it.

    My husband has never had an AL problem and he probably drinks 6 or maybe even 12 beers a year. That means he does NOT drink at a lot of occassions where others are drinking. Believe me, he doesn't spend 2 seconds worrying over what anybody thinks about that. One of my brothers doesn't drink and never has, and he is another example of someone who doesn't think AT ALL about what others think of his drinking habits.

    Trust me....we really do get caught up in our own drama. I suggest don't drink, and don't worry about it.

    DG
    Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
    Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


    One day at a time.

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      #3
      Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

      Sober-man, its very obvious you are a deeply intelligent man. How about do not drink, give nobody any reasons why if they ask, and make yourself seem even more complicated and mysterious. Screw em. Your peace of mind is worth so much more than what others may or might not think.
      I LOVE MY SEROTONIN AND BOOZE SCREWS IT UP!!!!!

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        #4
        Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

        Sober man - this party is clearly over whelming you. It's just a party, give it a miss. If it is causing you this much stress then you may not be ready for it. Don't let it or the people attending have this much power over you.
        While we may not be able to control all that happens to us, we can control what happens inside us.
        Benjamin Franklin

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          #5
          Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

          dito what they said just dont drink ..say no to al .. good luck stay strong and keep those gears turning
          :beach: life does change as long as you are willing to change yourself ..
          best thing about the future it comes one day at a time..

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            #6
            Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

            Sober_man,

            I agree with everything Doggygirl is saying because I am 49 and for the last 48 years I would do everything she just said, "I projected into the future and envisioned all kinds of scenarios that sometimes did, but way more often didn't come true. What a waste of energy!" It is so true.

            I stopped drinking about a week ago but I was worried about the last 2 social functions where everyone drinks. Sure, I was asked why I wasn't having a Chardonnay, and I just said, "not right now." Then, you no what? No one asked me again. They really don't care. I wasted so much time borrowing trouble with picturing these overblown scenarios that never came true....I made myself miserable. And, only myself. No one else. My sister doesn't drink and no one asks her why she doesn't.

            And I so know where you're coming from. In exactly 5 weeks, I am going to Maine with my family. My cousins in Maine are all jocks and none of them is overweight. In fact, they are really critical of people who are overweight. Well, I AM OVERWEIGHT. Yup, due to my drinking and an underactive thyroid (thanks DG I saw your post today, I will check out the link)......and I am dreading them looking at me with a horrifed look and wondering why I am fat when they used to see me in mini skirts low-cut blouses. Also, because I know they will ask my mother why I am fat.

            But here's my answer if anyone comments, I'll say, "It's a work in progress." Then, I'll change the subject. And if they are stupid enougj to comment, then I'll think, JEEZ, my dentist cousins are the biggest bunch of boobs I've ever met.

            Don't sweat it, friend. I have confidence in you.

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              #7
              Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

              Sober, wonderful post. You do what it takes to survive in YOUR life. Doesn't sound as there's any reason for you to go to this function; you've outgrown it. There's a lot more I can say in answer to your post, but you have your own answer. Go home to the people and pets who love you, want you to thrive and prosper, to continue to grow. It's something you won't wake up in the morning and regret. Best wishes for your continued journey.
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                #8
                Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

                You're answerable to no one SM. Explanations are not needed when it comes to keeping yourself safe and maintaining your newly found sobriety.

                I took a lot from your post and the social commentary is pretty much how I see things too.

                Have a great time at your parents!

                Many Blessings
                Phil
                "Keep me away from the wisdom which does not cry, the philosophy which does not laugh and the greatness which does not bow before children." Kahlil Gibran
                Clean and sober 25th January 2009

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                  #9
                  Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

                  Thanks to all those people who have replied so far. It is interesting to get so many different points of view and pieces of advice and I thank each and every one of you. I think my initial post fairly quickly developed into becomming more of a self reminder / refelection rather than just about the party but it served well as both.

                  I guess to write anything worth reading I have to be in a particular mind frame, really feeling what I write or I am just wasting your time. That is the mindframe I was in when I wrote that post. Like I say I like to cement things, get them down on paper. Think them out. Turn thoughts into something I can see. I know different things work for different people so if I am coming of as mysterious and complicated to know me is to know that I'm really not. I just often have a lot on my mind

                  Again thanks to everyone who has responded so far and especially to those who can relate! It really helps to know you are out there!

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                    #10
                    Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

                    Ahh! Grasshopper! Take the advice of Mr Myagi. When the kid asked how to avoid a confrontation Myagi said ' The best defence is...no be there.'

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                      #11
                      Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

                      Sober man, I see this is only your 4th post. This place is really wonderful, and some of the people on here will just blow your mind with insight, wisdom and strength. This place offers a whole lot of support, caring and understanding. You can vent, get pissed off, be happy, be sad, be silly and there is always somebody wonderful who will come along and offer their support for you.

                      In the "just starting out section" we get downright silly sometimes. Just read how crazy the Overit challenge got with hillarious fun and anybody who pops on is always welcome.

                      The other day somebody was having a really really really bad hangover and it made my day, and several others DAY to be there and reassure them it would be ok. Thats what we do for each other on here.

                      Hope you stick around and just be YOURSELF

                      Overit
                      I LOVE MY SEROTONIN AND BOOZE SCREWS IT UP!!!!!

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                        #12
                        Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

                        sober_man I would like to congratulate you on reaching thirty - more or less intact. I would like to be thirty again myself.

                        From my experience the years up to thirty are pretty much out of control. We need to earn a living and study or train - basically we just react at that time of life. The next decade or fifteen years are quite different, and the most important. It is now that you can see the way ahead and where you would like to go.
                        All of the experiences you have had, good, bad and indifferent, have helped build your character and equipped you for the next phase.
                        It's a time to stocktake. It's time for a comprehensive written plan.
                        I did this at age thirty-two (still have it.) Some parts seem a little silly now. For instance, in the 'things I won't do' section, I had 'Run to catch a Bus' and 'live in any suburb past the Railway Station.' The rest of the plan was more positive and mainly to do with my financial future. For instance 'Own my own nest' (pay off the mortgage) and 'buy more property.'

                        You will know what you would like to do. If it means Post-Grad or other qualifications then that goes on the list. If it means finding a suitable wife then list the criteria and start looking. Don't be phased by the time lines - as long as you are moving.
                        Some parts will come together quickly, others slowly.

                        Remember that five years is long enough to have a World War. What can you do in the next five years? Write your plan for your own novel now. You are the central character and you can make sure there is a happy ending.

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                          #13
                          Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

                          I'm bumping this because I don't want this dude to get away. sober_man has good insight and clarity of expression. I think he has much to offer and ought to stick around for a while.
                          Not only that but I think staying at home for as long as he did is a damn good idea.
                          When I was mug enough to leave home at 23 I didn't know what I was letting myself in for.
                          I had had my own private upstairs bedroom all my life...yep, longest I'd ever been anywhere. My clothes were washed, dinner was cooked and so on.
                          I didn't know what a bill was, never mowed the grass, never went shopping, didn't put out the rubbish, never fixed a tap. What's Rent?
                          I found myself overnight running around like a coolie doing all this time wasting home maintenance...never any peace. If I had my time again I'd have stayed at home as long as I could. Maybe built an annex in the backyard? Ah well it's done now.
                          Anyhow, I'm waiting to hear from you sober_man and I do have a particular interest in how you are getting on. I mentioned earlier that my very best friend in life is in a similar position to you and he needs help and advice. I think you might just be the one to provide some insight.

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                            #14
                            Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

                            Blue Heeler is very, very wise, he cracks me up. I think it would be a lot easier to stay mellow and AF if he were here with me! Funny thing is, I have a Blue Heeler, his name is Robby, and he is the smartest dog ever, but he does nip the heels of strangers!
                            Sober Man, I understand your post. I have been AF for a little more than 3 weeks and I live in a community where there is a Cheers kind of bar where everybody hangs out and everybody drinks. When I stopped drinking but kept socializing there, I felt I had some 'splaining to do." I felt like there were some raised eyebrows when I said I stopped. I made up a reason that had to do with my weight (I weigh barely 100 lbs., if that much) and my health and going to see my doctor.
                            As I said in another post, my hardest time is with my husband who would prefer that I keep sharing his passion for great wine, he is not supportive of my decision to be AF.
                            Sober Man, your post helps me with my resolve, thank you.
                            Rusty, it is sad to think that you are going home to a hostile environment where you will be talked about behind your back about your weight. I just got back from a family reunion, my one brother was overweight while just about everybody else in the extended family is not overweight. My brother looked unhealthy. Nobody said anything, but I could tell by a remark that he made about himself that he felt really uncomfortable about his weight. Maybe part of your problem is feeling very self-conscious, that relates back to our topic, doesn't it? My heart goes out to you.
                            Thank you EVERYBODY for posting here to help me stay strong and stay AF. It feels great to get support in this effort.

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                              #15
                              Not forgetting how serious it is - that's winning.

                              Hi sober man. I thought your post was very insightful. I enjoyed reading it. I am curious as to which country you live in though - is it UK? It would explain a lot to me about the feelings that you had about the party! Sounds daft I know but it really would explain it!!

                              I think it is good to be able to just talk out how you feel about something that is as important as that was to you. Hope you enjoyed seeing your dogs and parents!

                              sunshinedaisies
                              How simple it is to see that we can only be happy now and there will never be a time when it is not now....

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