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    #76
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    Hey Girly.

    A thought is just a thought. Thanks for sharing that. So true, it's the way depression really work hey?! they just seem to make everything miserable even when it isn't.

    I'm sorry for your family experiences wrt your dad and fam. You're a stronger person then you think you are. You had an awful lot to cope with. I'm convinced you will beat your demons.

    Luv, Johnnyh
    AF since 15th March 2010

    The journey is the goal. As long as you're fighting the good fight and you're not giving up on giving up, you're winning. It's not about how often you get knocked down, it's about how often you get up again. Sobriety the goal for sure. But striving to get to that goal is what it's about. Not getting there. Because the journey never ends. The journey is the goal.

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      #77
      girly's progress

      Hi Girly, seems like you have achieved alot and more to come, I really like the way your counsellor put it.

      Stay strong and remember you have your own family unit now to love and nurture, so sorry your feeling down about your parents.

      Your words of comfort and compassion to others always comes from your heart and you should be proud of that.

      Take Care

      P x:l
      Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.

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        #78
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        :l:l:l

        Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible and suddenly you are doing the impossible.


        St. Francis of Assisi

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          #79
          girly's progress

          Girly...
          you a beautiful young woman...literally
          you have a happy marriage and it sounds like a loving supportive husband
          you have healthy children that you love
          you have family...even if they are far away
          you have sisters nearby
          you have your health...
          YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR
          I know when you are in the throes of depression it is hard to remember that......but try???? OK????
          I love my family more than alcohol.:h
          Live in the Solution....not the problem

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            #80
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            im not sure, but i think the last sober day i had was last monday. i'll never stop drinking.

            i'm having anxiety attacks every day now. i know it's alcohol escelating these attacks. eg on friday i drove to the doctors. i left my bag on the back seat, with my vivienne westwood purse full of debit cards and id on full display in the car park. how it didnt get stolen i don't know.

            then i went to the shop. my sister had driven me this time. she waited outside. i got a few things, then the panic haze came over. i'd lost my purse. i gave my basket to the lady to keep, ran to the car, it wasn't there. my sister gave me money to pay for the shopping. when i got back in the shop i got my basket back. my purse was in it. i paid on my debit card, then walked away leaving the card in the reader. the lady called me back and looked at me like i was weird. that afternoon, i lost my make up bag. i'd left it at my sisters. i spent two hours looking for it and refused to go away for the weekend until it was found.

            yesterday, i forced myself to do the school run. my sister came with me. after about five mins in the yard the fear washed over. i cried all the way home, trying to take deep breaths. i couldnt even control the car. thats pretty much been me the last four days.

            i've kept the journal the counsellor asked me to do. now i'm here. up at 4:30 am this morning, still half drunk, writing my impossible jobs lists again.

            back to square one.
            The mind will intellectualize it, the heart will emotionalize it, yet the gut never lies.

            https://www.mywayout.org/community/f9/girly-wirly-s-toolbox-2-45452.html

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              #81
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              im not sure, but i think the last sober day i had was last monday. i'll never stop drinking.

              i'm having anxiety attacks every day now. i know it's alcohol escelating these attacks. eg on friday i drove to the doctors. i left my bag on the back seat, with my vivienne westwood purse full of debit cards and id on full display in the car park. how it didnt get stolen i don't know.

              then i went to the shop. my sister had driven me this time. she waited outside. i got a few things, then the panic haze came over. i'd lost my purse. i gave my basket to the lady to keep, ran to the car, it wasn't there. my sister gave me money to pay for the shopping. when i got back in the shop i got my basket back. my purse was in it. i paid on my debit card, then walked away leaving the card in the reader. the lady called me back and looked at me like i was weird. that afternoon, i lost my make up bag. i'd left it at my sisters. i spent two hours looking for it almost crying and rummaging at crazed speed through drawers and cupboards. i refused to go away for the weekend until it was found. a day filled with pure panic.

              yesterday, i forced myself to do the school run. my sister came with me. after about five mins in the yard the fear washed over. i cried all the way home, trying to take deep breaths. i couldnt even control the car. i also went to two different shops for stuff i didnt need. in both shops i got that terrifying i have to get out signal. i came out of both shops with nothing. thats pretty much been me the last four days.

              i've kept the journal the counsellor asked me to do. now i'm here. up at 4:30 am this morning, still half drunk, writing my impossible jobs lists again.

              back to square one.
              The mind will intellectualize it, the heart will emotionalize it, yet the gut never lies.

              https://www.mywayout.org/community/f9/girly-wirly-s-toolbox-2-45452.html

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                #82
                girly's progress

                girly wirly,
                I truly hope you can start your counselling/therapy and recovery programme soon.. it sounds like you need some intense psychotherapy from some professionals.. you are not alone - i too have suffered with the type of panic attacks you have experienced.. though I dont get them anymore, i still dont like being in public places for too long. One of the things my counsellor taught me is when you feel anxiety, just feel it, feel how it feels in your body, take note of how and where it is causing any disruption in your body. take deep breaths and collect your thoughts.. "ride the panic" and it will subside.. the average panic attack only lasts 5-10 mins.. remember this.. Are you taking any anti-anxiety or anti-depressants? I truly hope you look after yourself today - get some sleep, rest, and drink lots of water and have some healthy food..
                Katie xxx
                "It works if you work it, because you are worth it!!!"

                :groupluv:

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                  #83
                  girly's progress

                  Girly

                  The stuff you describe is so like I was when I was drinking - as well as inbetween my bouts. I know it's not that simple but honestly alcohol is making the attacks ten times worse. I too wrote lists like you do and had to make myself stop doing that in order to have a chance with stopping drinking. I still struggle and lost the plot yesterday over 100 days sober. I've got something very stressful coming up and it involves a million jobs to do by myself - the most important of which has just gone very wrong.

                  Only way I can keep sanity is by reminding myself "It will be ok as long as I don't drink". I know this doesn't help you right now as you are still drinking but it's something to think about. The drinking and the panics are almost definitely related in a cyclical way. Remove one and the other should follow. It is hard work though and I really hope you do get there.

                  By the way I used to lose everything all the time - purse, make up, jewellery, keys, phones. I do that a whole lot less sober but when I do(because I still do lose stuff) I know I will find it because I will have put it somewhere logical. Guess what?over the weekend I found earings, favourite lippy and underwear I'd misplaced and had mild panics over. I just try and believe I'll find it so the panics are much less.

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                    #84
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                    thanks girls.

                    appointment tomorrow with the counsellor, who unfortunately is very attractive and i cry and snot all over when in there. but its all good. quite strange really, knowing youre going to cry at 3 pm tomorrow!
                    The mind will intellectualize it, the heart will emotionalize it, yet the gut never lies.

                    https://www.mywayout.org/community/f9/girly-wirly-s-toolbox-2-45452.html

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                      #85
                      girly's progress

                      Oh Girly - you are in a bad place at the moment. Cry and snot away tomorrow, you need all the help and advice you can get. I don't know what to say, UKB seems to know what you are talking about - I'm never organised enough to make lists drunk or sober.
                      Just keep coming here - use it as a lifeline to reach out to, this site has pulled people from worse places than you are in
                      Really thinking of you Girly, let us know how you get on tomorrow
                      Molly x
                      Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                      contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                        #86
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                        girly - crying is very cathartic! i have cried occasionally in my sessions too.. i truly wish the best for you, and hope you get out all you can out of your sessions.. mine really were a turning point for me.. let us know how you get on,
                        Katie xx
                        "It works if you work it, because you are worth it!!!"

                        :groupluv:

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                          #87
                          girly's progress

                          wow! my therapy session today was fantastic! snot and tears everywhere!!

                          after talking for a little while, the counsellor said "our first aim is move forward and get you to start doing things again", i told him my first thought was "i dont want to."

                          he asked me what i wanted out of going for therapy. i said i didnt know how to answer him, as my mind is cluttered with so many different things i dont know what to solve first. so he asked me eack problem and wrote them scattered on a whiteboard. i was able to see exactly what i was dealing with. then underneath, he wrote how i was dealing with each one.

                          drinking. appointment next week for al. I made the phonecall. i sought help. i want help.

                          my weighti go to slimming world, even though i don't stick to it, i'm trying to address it

                          my parents living in spain there is nothing i can do about this.

                          inability to socialise
                          i've made plans with friends to try and overcome this.

                          panic anxiety and depres
                          sion. i sought help. i'm receiving help. its in hand. im taking medication and no longer in danger.

                          i felt like he decluttered my brain. like a weight has been lifted. it helped sooo much! i am dealing and coping with my shit. i can see everything clearly and not one whole tangled mess.

                          such progress in one hour! wow. he has asked me to nip negative thoughts that i have in the bud and ask where my evidence of the negative thoughts are.

                          i feel good x
                          The mind will intellectualize it, the heart will emotionalize it, yet the gut never lies.

                          https://www.mywayout.org/community/f9/girly-wirly-s-toolbox-2-45452.html

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                            #88
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                            That is FANTASTIC girlie, sometimes it just takes someone to show us the way..GOOD for you x
                            "It's not your job to like me, it's mine!"

                            AF 10th May 2010
                            NF 12th May 2010

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                              #89
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                              Oh girly,
                              I've been that worried about you.
                              I adored my therapist (I know I keep saying it ). I'm so glad you're getting along with yours.
                              I actually spent one of my hour long sessions just crying and saying nothing and he just kept giving me tissues and I still felt better afterwards.
                              Sounds like a plan to me.
                              J x
                              :l
                              It could be worse, I could be filing.
                              AF since 7/7/2009

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                                #90
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                                Girlie, that is just fantastic. So much progress in one session. Amazing. It's so much better when you just deal with one thing at a time instead of letting yourself be overcome by so many thoughts and problems. Good for you. Looking forward to watching your progress...
                                For every 60 seconds that you are angry, you lose a minute of happiness.
                                AF since 10/10/2015:yay:

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