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    There you go PM,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJmBPCYt5LY[/video]]YouTube - Bachman Turner Overdrive - You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet

    Aww me darling, I've got 2 kids they're 24 and 22 now. They were about the age of yours when my drinking career took off full flight. Talking to them now it wasn't me they hated it was the way alcohol affected me.

    Fascinating stuff about the Chilean Miners though, I tend to avoid politics on a Sunday though.

    Just for today, make it the best day you can.:l
    It could be worse, I could be filing.
    AF since 7/7/2009

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      PM, you're not "going on a bit." You're posting on this site to people who are right behind you, instead of drinking.
      I rush to check on your thread first because you are making an epic effort to get yourself AF and because you are my little bro. Love how you spent all your money so nothing left for Al; have done the same thing myself. We're a couple of peas in a pod, only I wish I had a half of your intestinal fortitude. My kids were pretty dark on me when I sank into a mire of everyday heavy drinking. Now they are very proud of me. Mine are older, but yours are a similar age to mine were when I was at my worst. It's very much a case of they just don't understand what it's like to be an alcoholic...thank God for that! And it's not you they hate...it's what Al does to you. If only they knew what a strong and inspiring man you are right now and how desperately hard you're trying to be the Dad they want and need!!! They will, in time of course, but they're just too young to get it right now.
      I speak only from my own experience.
      Hang in there, little bro. Love you.
      :h Mish :h
      :h Mish :h
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      Never give up...
      GET UP!!!

      AF since 25th November, 2011

      What might have been is an abstraction
      Remaining a perpetual possibility
      Only in a world of speculation.
      What might have been and what has been
      Point to one end, which is always present. T.S. Eliot

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        Cross posted, JC
        :h Mish :h
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        GET UP!!!

        AF since 25th November, 2011

        What might have been is an abstraction
        Remaining a perpetual possibility
        Only in a world of speculation.
        What might have been and what has been
        Point to one end, which is always present. T.S. Eliot

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          I know what you mean PM bout us being in the same 'place' as the miners, it can feel like a black hole alright - but you know that a couple of days- taking it a day at a time - sober you will be climbing out of that hole, I know it's hard, I'm flicking all those stations too by the way, have settled for India - Australia cricket tho. My kids weren't too keen on me either, and I'm still building up their trust, I cannot let them down again. Like JC says it's the drinking you they hate - not you, kids will always love us underneath it all - they just expect perfection - doesn't exist even in the best of folks and us alkies have a handicap on that one!
          Just think PM, all your probs (and mine) are rooted in a bottle - loose the bottle, loose the probs, that really is the equation. Other things like money and jobs etc. have a way of sorting themselves out when we are sober.
          Envy you your energy going for a walk to the sea, I live across the road from the beach and I'm too lazy to budge.
          Let us know how you are - you have your first 'meeting' tomorrow, how do you feel about that?
          Molly
          Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
          contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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            cross-posted Mish:H:H
            Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
            contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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              Re the Chilean Miners...
              I think that we have been in the black hole with them in our own alkie way, but at the moment we are in that claustrophobic little capsule making our slow way to the surface. An hour and a half for them immobilised, fearful and cramped might be a week and a half or more of being paralysed by withdrawal anxiety, sleeeplessness, headaches etc...but we, too, have a hope when we reach the surface...like them we will have relief to a degree and be able to get on with our lives, making contact with loved ones sober and moving forward. We, as much as they, will have a deep appreciation of the fresh wind in our face, the smell of the sea, the smile of a child.
              BETTER DAYS AHEAD, PM
              :h Mish :h
              :h Mish :h
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              Never give up...
              GET UP!!!

              AF since 25th November, 2011

              What might have been is an abstraction
              Remaining a perpetual possibility
              Only in a world of speculation.
              What might have been and what has been
              Point to one end, which is always present. T.S. Eliot

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                hope those guys get out safe ....... mish jc and others x
                I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round .... really love to watch them roll .... no longer riding on the merry-go-round ...... I just had to let it go

                Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans

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                  take care xxxxxx miners not doing too well
                  I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round .... really love to watch them roll .... no longer riding on the merry-go-round ...... I just had to let it go

                  Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans

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                    What's wrong with them - last I heard they were arguing over who was coming out last?
                    Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                    contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                      checking on you pompey.....
                      I love my family more than alcohol.:h
                      Live in the Solution....not the problem

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                        Haven't heard any update on the miners, but how are you doing, honey child?
                        :h Mish :h
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                        Never give up...
                        GET UP!!!

                        AF since 25th November, 2011

                        What might have been is an abstraction
                        Remaining a perpetual possibility
                        Only in a world of speculation.
                        What might have been and what has been
                        Point to one end, which is always present. T.S. Eliot

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                          woken up and too worried to go to the rehab place ........ have gone and rung to let them know cant go today ....... tom cpn appointment will discuss my feelings with him ....... determined to get my head together for thurs ...... my second visit ...... not feeling too hot today .......... going to go for another walk ......... no money left till wed ..... so thats good ....... got food and tea and milk as said before !!!!!!! have a good day all you MWO ers special tas to panno mish and jc x PM :boohoo:
                          I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round .... really love to watch them roll .... no longer riding on the merry-go-round ...... I just had to let it go

                          Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans

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                            Sorry you didn't feel up to going PM. Sometimes that step seems huge - unfortunately booze does that to us, makes things seem insurmountable. You know it is the way to go tho. Talk to cpn(?) tomorrow and get your ass in gear for Thursday!! Enjoy your walk and keep checking in
                            Molly
                            Contentedly sober since 27/12/2011
                            contentedly NF since 8/04/14

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                              Aww Pm,
                              Good that you rang them, not so good that you didn't go. I honestly know those feelings of anxiety at facing some thing new and challenging. There has literally been times when I haven't been able to get over the door step from absolute fear.

                              So what can we do to help you get over that mental door step and get you to the re-hab. Or more importantly what can you do apart from talking it through with your CPN.

                              Keep checking in, we do worry you know.
                              It could be worse, I could be filing.
                              AF since 7/7/2009

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                                ta both of you ........ although i know AL is as destructive as other drugs ....... just couldnt go today .......... def going to see CPN tom ...... at least i got up and went to phone box to let them know i wasnt coming ..... again its all the mind thing ........ will go to CPN tom and will sort some mental stratagies out for thurs ........ thanks for keeping the faith xxxxxxxx :thanks::h
                                I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round .... really love to watch them roll .... no longer riding on the merry-go-round ...... I just had to let it go

                                Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans

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