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    #1021
    Underoos and Friends - October

    :new: :welcome: :thanks: :l :goodjob: :h

    Time for me to hit the hay. Night Beag's, night Reg, and night everyone. x

    'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

    Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-

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      #1022
      Underoos and Friends - October

      Morning Grundy's!

      Ah, 22c here today, and blue skies at last! It will doubtless rain over the weekend when i'm off.
      Will source more top jokes while 'they're' away for tonight. he he. I'm finding i'm turning up my amplifier more too!

      Umm, i've just read on the news, this headline.....'Should drug addict's be sterilised'? What the F*^%?!!
      The angle is babies being born addicted. Many folk beat their addictions, as we know.

      Have a safe, sober, and magical day folk's!

      'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

      Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-

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        #1023
        Underoos and Friends - October

        hey all, sup?
        a guy i was speaking to claimed 5% of peeps who atain AF'dom, retain it in AA circles. he seemed to think that was a great effort, to me that means 95% relapse. so what % of problem drinkers never show up in the first place? anyone hear of the number of problem drinkers in aus? at my work we have a 'smoke seasation' program runs a few times a year,it is under the supervision of the WHSO, who is a RN. no talk of an AA type thing, stigma anyone? so sad, we have the pollies talking up the binge drink argument, but i dont see jack squat on TV for places like this or AA or any helpfull stuff, just 'drink responsably' type stuff, like they think its a chooice for some people...frustrates me to no end.
        I it is realy a disease and is something we have inhereted/caught from family/enviroment, why the shame??? so saddens and confuses me... i have told just abaout anyone who stands still long enough that i am an alcholic(now that i have some kind of handle on it granted) in the hope of opening peoples eyes that, yes there are people who they like or respect that they think are good workers/lovers/fathers/members of socitey that have this problem and they can help by pointing to places like this and AA.

        well thats my rant, i never do so it was about time.

        joke:Q. Whats brown and full of people?
        A. A satisfied cannibal...
        AF since 10/26/2009

        It will be five years sober 10/26/2014

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          #1024
          Underoos and Friends - October

          morning all under-rants...all I have to say after reading back over last nights shennanigans is this::H:H:H:H:H:H
          I am a part of the family of humanity. Not one person on this earth is a stranger to me. Rev. Ted Noffs

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            #1025
            Underoos and Friends - October

            In March 2008, the Australian government earmarked AUD$ 53 million towards a campaign against binge drinking, citing two studies done in the past eight years which showed that binge drinking in Australia was at what Prime Minister Kevin Rudd called "epidemic levels".[55]


            wonder what the money was spent on, adds on tv with spewing teenagers?
            AF since 10/26/2009

            It will be five years sober 10/26/2014

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              #1026
              Underoos and Friends - October

              hi sapph.
              AF since 10/26/2009

              It will be five years sober 10/26/2014

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                #1027
                Underoos and Friends - October

                yeah and this: G. i heard that news report....what the f@#k indeed...that stuff reeks of Hitler and his Aryan society (get the master race by eliminating those less-than perfect).......Tell ya what if they look real hard they might be doing mass sterilisation given the amount of folks who have problems and dont own up to it........utterly outrageous!!!! I'm appalled.
                I am a part of the family of humanity. Not one person on this earth is a stranger to me. Rev. Ted Noffs

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                  #1028
                  Underoos and Friends - October

                  Amen Aspy. The subject is one of my hobby horses too. In NZ, there are NO alternatives to 12-step type programmes, despite the research that they dont suit everyone. IN addition, there is little offered in the way of rehab services other than intensive residential programmes, for which there are long waiting lists. I've talked a lot to my GP about this in my attempts to find a counsellor/therapist that understands addiction - they are few and far between. And in the last budget drug and alcohol addiction services had major funding cuts.

                  Good on you for being open and honest about it. I've thought a lot about that too, because I think it takes people standing up and saying "This is a problem I have and I've learned how to manage it, and there are lots of people like me out there" to help to de-stigmatise alcoholism and make it easier for more people to seek help.

                  anyway, we have to pack up and head off this morning ........ I have had the best week that I've had for a long time and feeling much more relaxed! Probably wont be back on line until Friday when I'll be back home ...... go for your life with the emoticons :H :thumbs::record::notes::banana:

                  HAve a great day one and all!!
                  Never give up, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn

                  Harriet Beecher Stowe

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                    #1029
                    Underoos and Friends - October

                    aspman;985016 wrote: In March 2008, the Australian government earmarked AUD$ 53 million towards a campaign against binge drinking, citing two studies done in the past eight years which showed that binge drinking in Australia was at what Prime Minister Kevin Rudd called "epidemic levels".[55]


                    wonder what the money was spent on, adds on tv with spewing teenagers?
                    53 million...your kidding.......I would say that most of that went of top heavy beauracrats...as far as I can tell...in my own backyard and the way that kids around here party....it hasnt even began to touch the sides.....I've got a bee in my bonnet about the availibility of the stuff. When I was a teenager, the local pubs were the only places you could by al from. And they closed at 10pm weeknights and didnt open on Sundays. The barman knew everyone that bought grog over the counter and you didnt dare try to buy it. Nowdays it is available almost 25/7 with a lot of pubs staying open till 5am in the bloody morning. The style of drinking with young folk is terrifying. CLose the pubs at a decent hour and bomb the bottle-shops...stop the supermarkets from being able to sell it...anyone agree?
                    I am a part of the family of humanity. Not one person on this earth is a stranger to me. Rev. Ted Noffs

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                      #1030
                      Underoos and Friends - October

                      Hi Aspy, scuse my bad manners, I'm off ranting and forgot to say hello. How are you, yours and your beautiful baby/babies?
                      I am a part of the family of humanity. Not one person on this earth is a stranger to me. Rev. Ted Noffs

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                        #1031
                        Underoos and Friends - October

                        sapphire1;985021 wrote: yeah and this: G. i heard that news report....what the f@#k indeed...that stuff reeks of Hitler and his Aryan society (get the master race by eliminating those less-than perfect).......Tell ya what if they look real hard they might be doing mass sterilisation given the amount of folks who have problems and dont own up to it........utterly outrageous!!!! I'm appalled.
                        Phrases about people casting the first stone come to mind ......

                        There was a lovely bit of poetic justice in NZ recently when an MP from a minor party who was a hard-line law and order "lock 'em up and throw away the key" sort of person was found to have 2 criminal convictions that he had failed to disclose (one of them quite serious). He was forced to resign. And what was interesting was the flood of pollticians who then also admitted to offences that we hadn't known about .......
                        Never give up, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn

                        Harriet Beecher Stowe

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                          #1032
                          Underoos and Friends - October

                          Zenstyle;985032 wrote: I could hear the shouting all the way over on the Army thread! If they're getting rid of "less than perfect" then I'm orf to hide!

                          Morning Undie Pundies!
                          Yep Zen, I am that appalled and mad, I could throttle someone today. Just as well I not going out in public today:H As I said their are untold numbers of closet druggies (even the prescribed ones - my own mother being one)...althought too late to sterilise her, as she is passed her use by date:H Sounds too much l;ike BIG BROTHER at it again...we already have an overegulated/policed society...you cant do this and you cant do that.....piss orf and let us make our own choices!
                          I am a part of the family of humanity. Not one person on this earth is a stranger to me. Rev. Ted Noffs

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                            #1033
                            Underoos and Friends - October

                            Miss Behaving;985048 wrote: Phrases about people casting the first stone come to mind ......

                            There was a lovely bit of poetic justice in NZ recently when an MP from a minor party who was a hard-line law and order "lock 'em up and throw away the key" sort of person was found to have 2 criminal convictions that he had failed to disclose (one of them quite serious). He was forced to resign. And what was interesting was the flood of pollticians who then also admitted to offences that we hadn't known about .......
                            Yep Missy, I rest my case...hypocrisy is a very dangerous and insidious thing
                            I am a part of the family of humanity. Not one person on this earth is a stranger to me. Rev. Ted Noffs

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                              #1034
                              Underoos and Friends - October

                              and 'scuse my manners too!! Top of the morning to you Aspy Zen and Sapph!
                              Never give up, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn

                              Harriet Beecher Stowe

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                                #1035
                                Underoos and Friends - October

                                Goodmorning lovely friends, raining here again {Qld} getting a bit sick of all this rain now,I'm off to baby sit my youngest grandchild this morning, then getting my hair done, daughter is a hairdresser, always feel good after I get my hair done. Hope you all have a lovely day, love Lilly x

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