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    #16
    To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

    T2B, i a gree with BB, the operative word is want, we all need it but we have to desperately want sobriety above all else, above our families, friends, even our children. Because without this deep desire and to be selfish enough to say , my sobriety must come first, because without it I will have nothing else. I wish you well.
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      #17
      To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

      Hi T2B not a lot to offer than has been said, I just want to offer my support. This is harder than many of us imagined and there are times when we think we have this cracked and other times when we feel we cant carry on trying and whats the point. Yet we know deep down there is a point, a better life for us and everyone we care about. So on we go and one day the brightness comes and we wonder what was I ever thinking? I believe you can do this if you really want it badly enough.
      Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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        #18
        To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

        T2B, if this were as simple as making a logical choice, there would be a whole lot fewer of us here. Unfortunately, alcoholism defies logic much of the time, at least for me.

        Have you ever made a written plan? If so, would you like to share it and talk about what is working / not working and revise it? If you have not made a plan, how about taking a stab at that?

        I am very proactive about managing my sobriety on a daily basis. It doesn't happen by itself. (unfortunately!) What direction do you think you should take from here?

        DG
        Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
        Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


        One day at a time.

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          #19
          To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

          Yes, I have made plans.
          I have taken a stab at Topa and the whole MYO system. I drank.
          I have gone to outpatient and inpatient and I drank.
          I have many books on different approaches and I drank.

          I have used wholistic methods and I drank.
          I have posted and read and then posted both sober and wasted.

          I feel the issue at hand is my esteem.
          It will be a better week for I just had three days off , that is when I binge.
          This won't happen for a time so I will be healthier, this week.

          My first plan is to not purchase it.
          Second and foremost is to get back to AA, it is not perfect, but these are understanding bright souls that know the experience without judgment. I come from judgement and a condeming family system.
          It is enormous in stature and I am working on a plan to distance myself even more so from it.

          I plan to get back to the arts and my surroundings support this.

          I am going to do better starting today because I just dumped what was the residue. Bottom line is keep it out of my system.

          Amen~
          :notes:Theme2be

          " Do not lose courage in considering your own imperfections but instantly set about remedying them~everyday begin the task anew".-Saint Francis de Sales

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            #20
            To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

            Theme, don't lose hope, you are such a sweet soul!!!:h:h:h
            :boxer: Get the hell out of my house, Al, you worthless bastard!!

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              #21
              To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

              Your words mirror your own essence my dear Dexterhead~

              Your loved~
              :notes:Theme2be

              " Do not lose courage in considering your own imperfections but instantly set about remedying them~everyday begin the task anew".-Saint Francis de Sales

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                #22
                To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

                I feel so sad and sorry that I would allow something that has no value to take my life and create a lie about me, karen, the little girl that loved to dance in ballets.

                I am in such regret that the person that has assisted others to go and be free in their expression ends up sick as a dog and homebound like a worthless animal.

                I can see the colors while not under the influence and while I am see grey distorted.

                I am a kind peson to your children and others that you would trust me with.

                I am unrecongnizable without clarity in my system.

                I miss the person you need and desire rather in a relationship, or as a friend available in need.

                I miss what is pretty on my surface that reflects my internal desires to be amongst you.

                What is lovely is a moment away if patient~
                :notes:Theme2be

                " Do not lose courage in considering your own imperfections but instantly set about remedying them~everyday begin the task anew".-Saint Francis de Sales

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                  #23
                  To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

                  please resonde~ I cant live without you and knowing that you are there.

                  I am despirate w/out you ~
                  :notes:Theme2be

                  " Do not lose courage in considering your own imperfections but instantly set about remedying them~everyday begin the task anew".-Saint Francis de Sales

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                    #24
                    To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

                    Theme - are you ok? Are you drinking? If so I think its time to stop and get some water down you...
                    "In the depths of winter I finally learned there was in me an invincible summer ."
                    AF - JAN 1st 2010
                    NF - May 1996

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                      #25
                      To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

                      We are here T2B, be kind to yourself and dont take any more tonight, Chillli is right swap it for a big glass of water.
                      Ethanol is a toxic chemical, why would I drink it?

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                        #26
                        To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

                        We are here T2B. Do you want to talk about your plan? I think you have some good ideas there.

                        DG
                        Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                        Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                        One day at a time.

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                          #27
                          To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

                          Hiya Theme!

                          I am absolutely delighted that you have spoken so much here in these last post's, about some of your feeling's, and thought's, and part of your personal journey with booze. It's so great to see you 'talking', and discussing the issue at more length than previously. Two things stood out for me that you said. One was 'hope', the other was 'pushing your comfort zone.' You have hope! Yay! That's a big plus when we're in a dark place, which might be the understatement of the year, but there is alway's hope, and there must alway's be. I'm rapt that you've got a guitar to play with. I am a musician as you may know, and it is a magical thing to be doing, on any level. Pushing our comfort zones is essential in my experience with battling the bottle, to come out the other side, slowly, but surely.
                          Each morning, i have a very simple ritual, that has saved my life. I just step out the door, and put one foot in front of the other, slowly but surely, at my own pace.

                          Best wishes friend. x

                          'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

                          Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-

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                            #28
                            To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

                            You are a dear, sweet, sensitive soul with the heart of a poet. You are articulate, giving, gentle, unassuming and tortured.
                            Look into the history books, darling girl, and see how they are filled with such ones, mostly alcoholics like us. The gifted, the brilliant, the articulate, the compassionate...they're all there because they felt that very same pain that we feel. This world is filled with horrors that we were never meant to know or experience and the modern world is in many ways very much worse. Is it any wonder we try to find something to numb the pain of our own existences?
                            The thing is, booze isn't the answer. It is like a whirlpool that sucks us even deeper into the vortex of despair and depression and self loathing when we find ourselves at the bottom of the well. It's tough, really tough, to swim against that downward spiral, and everyone who has posted on your thread knows the struggle. It is a nightmare, hellish, with crushing anxiety and ghastly withdrawals, but it is so worth it.
                            Have you read Pompeyman's thread? He is inspiring me and I am sure many others. We are all here for you and want to help. My love and support are with you.
                            :h Mish :h
                            :h Mish :h
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                            Never give up...
                            GET UP!!!

                            AF since 25th November, 2011

                            What might have been is an abstraction
                            Remaining a perpetual possibility
                            Only in a world of speculation.
                            What might have been and what has been
                            Point to one end, which is always present. T.S. Eliot

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                              #29
                              To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

                              Mish, that was a wonderful post. So many brilliant minds use AL for comfort. I've always been extremely sensitive to things many people don't see, understand, but it's not a bad thing. Sometimes when we are more susceptible to things, we are more 'open' to the thoughts, words, things that others don't feel. Very hard to explain, but we may feel more deeply about the issues of the world, and mankind. One of my little secrets, I live in a haunted house. While I may be open to things like that, Hubs is not. But he has experienced the same things I have. SOoooo, maybe when we have so many other stuff happening than is considered 'normal', we have more emotions to deal with. And that may make us more anxious, and looking for a way to be comforted. For me, it's not a problem. I feel it is just a part of the natural world they can't report about on the news. :H Never try to convince anyone else, because this is my experience. I found out my house, built in 1830, was built a day's ride from town, was for a prominent family's alcoholic son, to keep him from being able to easily embarrass them. I could give you numerous accounts of what we have experienced, but there's no reason. It's a personal thing. So, my point is, we may feel and think more deeply than some, but what we do with our life is our choice. You have so many here who want you to succeed, want you to find YOUR answer. Maybe it's a coincidence, but until I moved here, (and didn't know the history for years later), I rarely drank. It was completely a non-issue. Not trying to be strange or weird here, just what my own experience has been, and there have been many. So, maybe your feeling too deeply, worrying about things you can't change. We each have our own life to live. And you have the intelligence and strngth to change yours.
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                              Never look down on a person unless you are offering them a hand up.
                              awprint: RUBY Imagine yourself doing What you love and loving What you do, Being happy From the inside Out, experiencing your Dreams wide awake, Being creative, being Unique, being you - changing things to the way YOU know they can BE - Living the Life you Always imagined.awprint:

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                                #30
                                To my dear friends and fellow suffers/achievers

                                Your words are too many colors at once.

                                sensiive beyond explanation.

                                I am so sorry.

                                I would love to be simply held by a trusted friend tonight.

                                I am being honest.
                                :notes:Theme2be

                                " Do not lose courage in considering your own imperfections but instantly set about remedying them~everyday begin the task anew".-Saint Francis de Sales

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