Underoos and International Guests, March 2011

[tawnyfrog]

Underoos and International Guests, March 2011

Nighters.

[Charlotte's Web]

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tawnyfrog;1083891 wrote: Cheeses twice, Undies - we're supposed to calm the farm, not anaesthetise it.

CDubbya - how's the boy now?

Not too good, TF. He lasted about 30 minutes at school before I had to get him. Today he's been OK ish but this evening his temperature is very high again. I called into the chemist on the way back from college and the pharmacist said I can up the doses a bit but we should go back to the doctor tomorrow. We've been twice this week already and all they have said is that it's a viral infection. I've got to say though, I am getting worried.

On a good note, we had an extra night at college tonight. It was a social evening where we actually got to mix with deaf people and use our sign. I was really nervous at first but once we got started it was great. Yah! I have used my sign language outside of the class at last!

I'm going to have an early night. Nighters all.

[fickle]

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good stuff CW you are AMAZING!
huggs
(i run to the lounge btw where i make sense)

[byebyebridgetjones]

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Morning Assorteds.

Friend was discharged from hospital last night, luckily with no ongoing damage physically.

Onward referrals ? Nope.

Aftercare of any sort ? Nah.

Backup plan in case it happens again ? Don't be a drama queen.

Apparently it was first time, so it doesn't even count. She'll have to have a better crack next time.

I was so furious last night that I couldn't even post this.

* Deep breath. Start again *

What beautiful cool morning it is here. The head feels clear. The garden calls. Going to do the nice slow ease into the day today. Copious coffee, a bit of a read.

[Guitarista]

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Morning Bridget, and all to drop in,

Bridge. In your nursing/life experience, have you found that many hospital's don't appear to view a person who comes into Emergency/casualty in a self harm or overdose situation, as an ongoing health issue? I know years ago many hospital's (probably still now too) would be very pissed off with an overdose, as it would be viewed as a low priority embuggerance that get's in the way of say, a car accident patient. But the fact is, this is a serious health issue, and when someone (your friend) goes to that extent, there is something obviously very wrong, and a back up plan, and ongoing treatment/monitoring by med professional's is essential. Look's like you're the back up plan friend?

Here's a little ditty i just came across.

“Brick walls are there for a reason. The brick walls aren’t there to keep us out. The brick walls are there to show us how badly we want things…the brick walls are there to stop the people who don’t want it badly enough!”

– Randy Pausch

[Guitarista]

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Morning Bridget, and all to drop in,

Bridge. In your nursing/life experience, have you found that many hospital's don't appear to view a person who comes into Emergency/casualty in a self harm or overdose situation, as an ongoing health issue? I know years ago many hospital's (probably still now too) would be very pissed off with an overdose, as it would be viewed as a low priority embuggerance that get's in the way of say, a car accident patient. But the fact is, this is a serious health issue, and when someone (your friend) goes to that extent, there is something obviously very wrong, and a back up plan, and ongoing treatment/monitoring by med professional's is essential. Look's like you're the back up plan friend?

Here's a little ditty i just came across.

“Brick walls are there for a reason. The brick walls aren’t there to keep us out. The brick walls are there to show us how badly we want things…the brick walls are there to stop the people who don’t want it badly enough!”

– Randy Pausch

[byebyebridgetjones]

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Guitarista;1084362 wrote:

Bridge. In your nursing/life experience, have you found that many hospital's don't appear to view a person who comes into Emergency/casualty in a self harm or overdose situation, as an ongoing health issue? I know years ago many hospital's (probably still now too) would be very pissed off with an overdose, as it would be viewed as a low priority embuggerance that get's in the way of say, a car accident patient. But the fact is, this is a serious health issue, and when someone (your friend) goes to that extent, there is something obviously very wrong, and a back up plan, and ongoing treatment/monitoring by med professional's is essential. Look's like you're the back up plan friend?

Oh bloody oath.....I was in on more than a few of those cases, spent a lot of time in Cas (A&E)

I was 18 at the time, and didn't comprehend suicide at all. But I still couldn't get over the callousness of these wizened up old cynics who should NOT have been there.

I am trying SO hard not to overidentify with this.......I know I'm angry for her, but really I'm angry for myself. I'm trying to give her the help that I wish someone had given me.

She rang here last night, and honestly tried to get away with the minimisation game, with which, of course I have always been complicit.

'It's all partner's fault'
'It was just because of the property settlement/stress/wind direction'
'No big deal really'

NO fucking way.

I was very straight that I would not be playing let's trivialise. I didn't want to go too hard while she's still sick sedated and withdrawing.

But she just didn't get it. HOW can she still not GET IT ???????

I honestly had the feeling that she would go and drink again last night.

So I left her in tears, but that's better than arrogant, which is dangerous.

Anyway I'm fucking livid, and that's dangerous too, so I'm going to the park with the dog, who also drinks, but only when she can knock one over and syphon it off the table. She also eats people's cigarettes, but that's a story for another time.:H

[Guitarista]

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byebyebridgetjones;1084378 wrote: Oh bloody oath.....I was in on more than a few of those cases, spent a lot of time in Cas (A&E)

I was 18 at the time, and didn't comprehend suicide at all. But I still couldn't get over the callousness of these wizened up old cynics who should NOT have been there.

I am trying SO hard not to overidentify with this.......I know I'm angry for her, but really I'm angry for myself. I'm trying to give her the help that I wish someone had given me.

She rang here last night, and honestly tried to get away with the minimisation game, with which, of course I have always been complicit.

'It's all partner's fault'
'It was just because of the property settlement/stress/wind direction'
'No big deal really'

NO fucking way.

I was very straight that I would not be playing let's trivialise. I didn't want to go too hard while she's still sick sedated and withdrawing.

But she just didn't get it. HOW can she still not GET IT ???????

I honestly had the feeling that she would go and drink again last night.

So I left her in tears, but that's better than arrogant, which is dangerous.

Anyway I'm fucking livid, and that's dangerous too, so I'm going to the park with the dog, who also drinks, but only when she can knock one over and syphon it off the table. She also eats people's cigarettes, but that's a story for another time.:H

Yep, my dog used to drink on occassion too!

I've been in this situation of having a close friend in similar trouble a few times. For me, i just do the best that i can, in that, i research and recommend every single recovery/support option i can find, and let the person know i am alway's here, but they have to do the work. And we can do some of that work together, but really, this is a personal journey, and we can't be that person, or with that person 24/7. They are the ones that need to decide. As you say Bridge, if your friend doesn't see a problem, (i'm sure she does) or more typically in these situation's, doesn't want to face up to the fact thing's aren't right with her, and view's her situation as far too huge and overwhelming to deal with, or even think about, this is hard to be a part of, or watch. Identifying, (as a team, you and her? and hopefully her local doc etc.) then breaking a recovery plan down into very small, simple, achievable, straightforward, understandable step's that make sense to that person can be an obvious, but important place to begin. For me, i cannot let these thing's take over my life. I somehow go for a zen like approach to it, thinking that, well, whatever will be, will be, as long as i'm doing all i can to support this person.

I know i'm sprouting stuff you already know.

Good luck!

[Guitarista]

Underoos and International Guests, March 2011

byebyebridgetjones;1084378 wrote: Oh bloody oath.....I was in on more than a few of those cases, spent a lot of time in Cas (A&E)

I was 18 at the time, and didn't comprehend suicide at all. But I still couldn't get over the callousness of these wizened up old cynics who should NOT have been there.

I am trying SO hard not to overidentify with this.......I know I'm angry for her, but really I'm angry for myself. I'm trying to give her the help that I wish someone had given me.

She rang here last night, and honestly tried to get away with the minimisation game, with which, of course I have always been complicit.

'It's all partner's fault'
'It was just because of the property settlement/stress/wind direction'
'No big deal really'

NO fucking way.

I was very straight that I would not be playing let's trivialise. I didn't want to go too hard while she's still sick sedated and withdrawing.

But she just didn't get it. HOW can she still not GET IT ???????

I honestly had the feeling that she would go and drink again last night.

So I left her in tears, but that's better than arrogant, which is dangerous.

Anyway I'm fucking livid, and that's dangerous too, so I'm going to the park with the dog, who also drinks, but only when she can knock one over and syphon it off the table. She also eats people's cigarettes, but that's a story for another time.:H

Yep, my dog used to drink on occassion too!

I've been in this situation of having a close friend in similar trouble a few times. For me, i just do the best that i can, in that, i research and recommend every single recovery/support option i can find, and let the person know i am alway's here, but they have to do the work. And we can do some of that work together, but really, this is a personal journey, and we can't be that person, or with that person 24/7. They are the ones that need to decide. As you say Bridge, if your friend doesn't see a problem, (i'm sure she does) or more typically in these situation's, doesn't want to face up to the fact thing's aren't right with her, and view's her situation as far too huge and overwhelming to deal with, or even think about, this is hard to be a part of, or watch. Identifying, (as a team, you and her? and hopefully her local doc etc.) then breaking a recovery plan down into very small, simple, achievable, straightforward, understandable step's that make sense to that person can be an obvious, but important place to begin. For me, i cannot let these thing's take over my life. I somehow go for a zen like approach to it, thinking that, well, whatever will be, will be, as long as i'm doing all i can to support this person.

I know i'm sprouting stuff you already know. Take care of you. On that note, i know you're livid, but......How are you going after your walk?

Good luck!

[tawnyfrog]

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Not really much more to add.

A friend of mine also did the Xanax OD. Due to an absolute fluke she was found in time and saved. She has no recollection of what happened and states that she would never ever ever do that to her 24 y-o daughter. But she did. And the most stupid part about that is - she is and always has been a total non-drinker. Thankfully she's seeing a shrink on an on-going basis. We have no idea what made her brain snap that night.

OK. Onto other things. Are we all doing Earth Hour tonight?

[fickle]

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Afternoon Folks,
Glad to hear your friend is OKish Bridge, even though infuriatingly blithe about it all.
My friend appears to be improving.. girls are visiting her today.
I am currently in need of rose advice.

I got this bonza little rose for my last birthday. It is called Bionica and it totally manic, much like myself, flowering as hard as it can all of spring, summer and autumn. with all the rain it's got these water shoots coming out in all directions.

Should I cut em off and keep the nice little rose bush shape? Sorry, not real experienced with this.

[tawnyfrog]

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Yep. Cut the buggers off.

[fickle]

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Thanks Tawny!
Secateurs in hand... and it will be a big relief as those shoots have a colossal aphid problem also. No matter how much soapy water we spray at em they multiply like crazy and they've even mutated and developed armour plating I swear! Gonna burn the lot on a bonfire! That'll fixem. I love the way fresh rose cuttings crackle.

I have had a really great day... I went to my favourite plant nursery where I usually carefully choose how to eke out the few measly dollars I can spend on plants.. you know, one special plant every now and then... I have fond memories of an enchanted house I once lived in where you could sit in a bubble bath and look out the window at a field of beautiful pink japanese wind flowers growing under a shady tree.. my favourite bathtub ever.

So today's big purchase was going to be a pot of japanese windflowers and some violas in preparation for winter... But then I hit the jackpot! At the last minute I decided to check out the native nursery in search of a grevillia... I had loaded up my trolley and was ruefully putthing things back that I could not afford, when I found myself up the very back end. It was like a dream come true! I found about 3 whole ute loads of leptospermum, all well grown, about waist high... wait for it.... :eeks::yougo: for $2 EACH!!!:yougo::eeks:

I bought five. I paid a silly price for my windflowers and violas but boy.. I was so excited I was dancing round the kitchen when I got home babbling about lavender leptospermum... until my boy had to say sternly "Mum! You are embarrasing me!" as I'd not noticed he had a mate over playing Halo.

I've planted them all and I think I'll go back and get some more tomorrow. I'll have to figure out what colour the other varieties are.

Thanks for the tip Mr G... I will be googling TAFE courses to see what I can do.. then chatting to the boss to see if I can put it in the plan!

[fickle]

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Um.. apologies to anyone who does not know what I've been babbling about - here is a pic of the flowers of 'Lavender Queen' (the leptospermi i've planted)


And I was in such a great mood I bought a little crimson mallee which I've also planted


BTW this article is v funny if anyone needs a chuckle.. I do adore AC
ABC The Drum - Parliament goes deeper and deeper into denial

[tiptronic_ct]

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tawnyfrog;1084490 wrote:

OK. Onto other things. Are we all doing Earth Hour tonight?

Yes