Army Thread 17th May

[mario]

Army Thread 17th May

KTAB;1116447 wrote: Is there a difference between accepting that we are an alkie and accepting that we can never drink safely or 'normally' again? Or do the amount in essence to the exact same thing?

I dont no the answer to that for everyone or if there is an answer to that for everyone, But for me I have accepted that I am an alcoholic and have accepted that I cant ever drink again,for me there the same.

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Army Thread 17th May

mollyka;1116451 wrote: Personally, I think they are just semantics, to me anyhows.
Not sure I agree, we all do things we shouldnt but taking that leap is an agreement with ourselves not to do so.

And yep 25 yrs down the road, t'without a doubt I think if we had a problem in the first place to paraphrase Gerry Adam's 'it's not gone away you know'
Well thats a feckin sobering thought if ever there was one......


JackieClaire;1116452 wrote: I can only speak for me but it wasn't a giant leap to acceptance just a gradual thought process that lead me to accepting I can never drink safely again. I have a feeling it was my time. I could no longer go on living the life I was, it was no life. Just eating, breathing and drinking.

Just keep asking yourself questions,KT, Keep asking us questions. It's good to reassess where we were and where we're going.

Having a bit of a ramble here meself.

Are you saying I am rambling? :biglaughmonkey:

mario;1116453 wrote: I dont no the answer to that for everyone or if there is an answer to that for everyone, But for me I have accepted that I am an alcoholic and have accepted that I cant ever drink again,for me there the same.

Again I dont know if they are one and the same. Its a bit like saying I drive way too fast and I accept that. I know the consequences of doing so and yet I continue to drive too fast sometimes.
Maybe its the fact of our no longer wishing to experience of the consequences of our actions that is the key, not the acceptance that there is a problem.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread 17th May

KTAB;1116447 wrote: Is there a difference between accepting that we are an alkie and accepting that we can never drink safely or 'normally' again? Or do the amount in essence to the exact same thing?

Oooooooooh crikey, you're certainly asking some hard ones this morning.


Just a quick aside. Have you noticed today's date is the 18th.

[mario]

Army Thread 17th May

But ktab if your driving to fast and you have been told & told and you know you are driving to fast, Accept that and get rid of the car before you crash.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread 17th May

KTAB;1116455 wrote:
Are you saying I am rambling? :biglaughmonkey:

Moi, never. I'm just not used to writing down serious stuff this time of a morning and not sure I'm making sense.

[mario]

Army Thread 17th May

Did that make sence,


Anyway have to go laters.


ktab 12 tomorrow but will talk before that.


Keep safe & sober.

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Army Thread 17th May

JackieClaire;1116456 wrote: Oooooooooh crikey, you're certainly asking some hard ones this morning.


Just a quick aside. Have you noticed today's date is the 18th.
Yep and I also noticed that I am here 2 yrs tomorrow, maybe that is what has prompted my soul searching.

mario;1116457 wrote: But ktab if your driving to fast and you have been told & told and you know you are driving to fast, Accept that and get rid of the car before you crash.

Ok so you can accept that you are an alkie and you can accept that you shouldnt drink ever but accepting that you cant is another step entirely Or am I just splitting hairs here?

[one2many]

Army Thread 17th May

Well you can recognise you are an alcoholic and decide to keep drinking knowing you are doing harm etc etc...many people do that.

Accepting you can never drink again means you choose life and decide that by eliminating alcohol from your life, you are deciding your life is more important than the booze. I agree a lot of people never get here because their alcoholism has progressed so far that NOTHING is more important than the drink and they cannot live without it.

Thats why you have alcoholics who don't drink and those who keep on going down the destructive path, I think a lot realise that they cannot drink safely but continue to do so regardless....thats alcoholism.

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Army Thread 17th May

Ok I really need to get some work done, tons to get through today. I wont be around tonight as I am off to the europa cup final.
Laters folks, sorry if am wrecking anyones head this early.

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Army Thread 17th May

one2many;1116464 wrote: Well you can recognise you are an alcoholic and decide to keep drinking knowing you are doing harm etc etc...many people do that.

Accepting you can never drink again means you choose life and decide that by eliminating alcohol from your life, you are deciding your life is more important than the booze. I agree a lot of people never get here because their alcoholism has progressed so far that NOTHING is more important than the drink and they cannot live without it.

Thats why you have alcoholics who don't drink and those who keep on going down the destructive path, I think a lot realise that they cannot drink safely but continue to do so regardless....thats alcoholism.

Quite succinctly put Oney, thank you.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread 17th May

one2many;1116464 wrote: Well you can recognise you are an alcoholic and decide to keep drinking knowing you are doing harm etc etc...many people do that.

Accepting you can never drink again means you choose life and decide that by eliminating alcohol from your life, you are deciding your life is more important than the booze. I agree a lot of people never get here because their alcoholism has progressed so far that NOTHING is more important than the drink and they cannot live without it.

Thats why you have alcoholics who don't drink and those who keep on going down the destructive path, I think a lot realise that they cannot drink safely but continue to do so regardless....thats alcoholism.
How do you do that, Oney. Brilliant

KTAB;1116465 wrote:
Laters folks, sorry if am wrecking anyones head this early.

Oi don't be apologizing, it's good to get the auld noggin working for a change.

[Panno]

Army Thread 17th May

one2many;1116464 wrote: Well you can recognise you are an alcoholic and decide to keep drinking knowing you are doing harm etc etc...many people do that.

Accepting you can never drink again means you choose life and decide that by eliminating alcohol from your life, you are deciding your life is more important than the booze. I agree a lot of people never get here because their alcoholism has progressed so far that NOTHING is more important than the drink and they cannot live without it.

Thats why you have alcoholics who don't drink and those who keep on going down the destructive path, I think a lot realise that they cannot drink safely but continue to do so regardless....thats alcoholism.

Brilliant :l

[Panno]

Army Thread 17th May

Whats significant about the 18th?...just being nosey

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread 17th May

Panno;1116471 wrote: Whats significant about the 18th?...just being nosey

It's today. Have a quick squizz at today's date on the Army thread.

[Panno]

Army Thread 17th May

Oh yes durrr me !! :H:H:H