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    #46
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    If you hadn't phoned, he would have done it again or to someone else, in all probability. You're loving him by getting him help, and protecting others from his rages. :hug:
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      #47
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      This is full depresion..I miss him like madness, have been sleeping far too much with nightmares

      I feel likle I am going crazy, but serious crazy, I am not drinking as I know that will give them the big ecxuse to take him


      I just want he gets help...
      but my heart is in bits, I'm trying to clear up the house after thursday but I have done nonthing..
      just been in a ball on an off sleeping and taking doggies out..
      I am so not looking forward to tomorrow..

      am crumblbling like hell here

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        #48
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        Jan - I can't not imagine how much pain you are in, but YOU DID THE RIGHT THING. When he is an adult you will be able to look at him with pride and see what you you did for him to make him the man he is.....
        Do you have someone that can come be with you? I hate it that you are alone...sometimes the monsters are bigger when you are by yourself
        I love my family more than alcohol.:h
        Live in the Solution....not the problem

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          #49
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          no only my girliess..fout legged.. Taz & Benji

          I feel like shit,feel like doing something to me, rather than they stick him in a place he won`t get help and won't be able to get out of...

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            #50
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            they WILL do something for him sweetie
            and I know you are in a dark place but if you do something to yourself think how much more messed up your little boy will be. You have to be strong for him.
            Can you get out? Go to church, walk on the beach, go somewhere and scream???? I swear that works...................
            I love my family more than alcohol.:h
            Live in the Solution....not the problem

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              #51
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              Jan as Jan says get out to church or an AA meeting or get on line and start punching in key words to find the support and tools you need to deal with this. There is a world out there at your fingertips. You need to be really strong and an advocate for you as well as Ollie now.
              Psalms 119:45


              ?Start by doing what is necessary, then what is possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible.?

              St. Francis of Assisi



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                #52
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                What brilliant advice.
                Please do something positive for yourself

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                  #53
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                  Jan dear, I hope you've done something special for yourself today. I know it's tearing you apart, not having Ollie with you, but we've all talked about this and you know, deep in your heart, that this is what needs to be done for both of you to have time to heal. We all know how much you love Ollie and I'm sure that he loves you like any little boy loves his Mum. But you've said yourself that he was abused and he saw things that no child should see and he needs help to deal with those things and work through the fear and anger that is inside him because of those things. He will get better and both of you will heal and will be the loving family that you can be without all the hurt, fear and resentment of the past burdening you. In the meantime, you have to take care of you so that when the time comes, you will be able to take care of Ollie again. This time apart will give you the time to deal with your issues and regain your strength. Sending you huge :huggy's and love.:h
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                    #54
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                    Thx again for your kind words, I'm still in a dark place up and down try to clean house, then fall asleep...NO ALCOHOL just depression I suppose..
                    I feel like a hermit, ordered chinese takeaway, ate 1/3rd watching telly, and still without force/energy to do anything..house is still a mess

                    gonna take my girls out, as I love them and cannot be unfair to them.
                    I supidly got a razor blade (ones in little packets for old fashion razors). I have them to do art work with Ollie and made a slice on my wrist..but I'm a coward & it hurts, didn't thinkl it would...just as well so every time I look at the small slice it reminds me how stupid I am...

                    gonna take my doggies out..be back after..xxx

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                      #55
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                      please don't hurt yourself love
                      I love my family more than alcohol.:h
                      Live in the Solution....not the problem

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                        #56
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                        I won't..I know how it hurt me when my dad did it..so I could never do that to them,
                        but my head is in a mess, not seen ollie today and my heart is breaking....

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                          #57
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                          Hi Jan,

                          How are you going?

                          I get the sense that you're worried about the level and quality of help available for Ollie there?

                          I might be throwing a spanner in the works here, but if the professional care there is not up to scratch, would treatment and help for him be a better quality option in the U.K?

                          I'm just throwing that out there, not knowing your situation well.

                          An AA meeting sounds like a great idea if you can handle it, mainly at this point for the face to face contact and support you will receive. There are some terrific people at AA meetings who will listen to you and welcome you with open arms anywhere in the world, mostly. You don't need to just talk about grog at a meeting.

                          Take care of yourself friend.

                          'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

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                            #58
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                            Hiya Mr G it's difficult for me to returen to UK ..plus it's like a strange land to me and to Ollie..
                            I left in 1986, went to Andorra very rich, had Jamie then left to costa del sol where Bonnie was born and lived for about 9/10 years

                            But the last time I was there (UK) was in 2001 for very short time and escaped by the skin of my teeth... I was with Bonnie, got her back safe first, then I slipped back for Jamie....

                            So I think you can understand the UK is NOT an option...it's very complicated...

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                              #59
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                              But I am NOT looking forwarwd to tomorrow...

                              I don't want to lose my baby again..even tho this time it's not my "fault" I am scared shitless...

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                                #60
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                                Need you help again, or advice

                                just called the fiscalia de menores.(legal of cgildren)
                                they have not recieved anything.....
                                spoke with guadia civil, they agreed they don'y have the right to give custody to anyone else without going to court/judge

                                I have custody of Ollie, guardia civil gave custody of Ollie for the weekend until she hears from fiscalia of children.....

                                I called them they don't know a thing...... and agree the guardia civil cannot give custody to anyone without court order...

                                I think they did it just to give tive for things to calm down....

                                but I want my son back.....bonnie won't even let me be alone with him....!!!!!

                                god sake it was just a tantram on his behalf..and needs treatment for this behaviour..not seperation from his mum....

                                going down to guadia civil to get copy of denouncia and "custody" paper... and a demand she gives him back to me....

                                I risk that she will be sooo pissed off with me for doing it....but for fuck sake he's my son and I want him at home........

                                am I wrong...what do you reckon...????

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