now I understand him...fuck you for all your help..
We have tried every approach in the book with you Jan, softly softly, tiptoe round you, gentle nudging, pleading, begging, tough love and I know, I for one, have given you what for a couple of times.
Limers was giving her 2 cents and her advice the way SHE saw, she was NOT trying to bring you down.
We are all worried about you and we are all worried about Ollie, that doesn't change even if the approach does because so far, whatever approach we adopt falls on deaf ears.
We don't know what to do or say anymore.
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