Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

[InChains]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

daughter is, so far as I'm aware, about a child who is abused by her father without her mothers knowledge, i think the learning disability thing is that the child can't explain or understand whats happening. could be wrong but thats the interpretation i'd heard, may help to know the song was origianlly titled brother and featured slightly different lyrics but was later changed to daughter.

as with most pearl jam though, eddie might well ahve written in a double meaning intentionally, he does it way too much xD

EDIT: interestign looking at the song facts part, didn't see the one about it beign about disability specifically, thats a very interesting idea and makes sense, disabled kids used to suffer alot of abuse from family etc, cheers for sending that my way expat, obsessive pj fan here xD

[expat3]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

InChains;1283377 wrote: daughter is, so far as I'm aware, about a child who is abused by her father without her mothers knowledge, i think the learning disability thing is that the child can't explain or understand whats happening. could be wrong but thats the interpretation i'd heard, may help to know the song was origianlly titled brother and featured slightly different lyrics but was later changed to daughter.

as with most pearl jam though, eddie might well ahve written in a double meaning intentionally, he does it way too much xD

EDIT: interestign looking at the song facts part, didn't see the one about it beign about disability specifically, thats a very interesting idea and makes sense, disabled kids used to suffer alot of abuse from family etc, cheers for sending that my way expat, obsessive pj fan here xD

That's what I'm getting too-maybe a child who is abused and the mother won't listen. But as the link I posted says-there are quite a few takes on what the lyrics really mean. I like Pearl Jam too. But anyway-I'm fighting against abuse -mainly people misunderstanding "different children" in whatever way that may be. x

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

InChains;1283363 wrote: cheers zen, I'm not too bad with the fags, never smoked heavily coz I'm asthmatic (I know, I'm a genius smoking at all xD) it's only when i'm drinking that i really start to want one, so I actually smoke in the evenings most of the time but not in the day. I swear if I went to bed at 7pm and got up at 2am I would be the most clean living human being on the planet xD

That made me LOL :H:H

Incheroo, I'm that proud of you I could burst. I know that must have been huge making the appointment with the counsellor. Have one of these :l


Oh and general wavings, good evenings and yoooooooooo hooooooooooooooos to all.

[InChains]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

expat: my older brother died before I was born due to a genetic disorder whcih meant he had very severe problems, because of his problems my mum met people with kids who had a huge range of different disabilities and difficulties, it taught her alot and she passed that on to me, would never judge a kids behaviour without the whole story. wish everybody had the chance to get to know kids who are 'different' in some way and realise that actually alot of the time they are just fantastic people if you're willing to work with them instead of against them.

thanks JC, hoping this works out for the best

[expat3]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

InChains;1283382 wrote: expat: my older brother died before I was born due to a genetic disorder whcih meant he had very severe problems, because of his problems my mum met people with kids who had a huge range of different disabilities and difficulties, it taught her alot and she passed that on to me, would never judge a kids behaviour without the whole story. wish everybody had the chance to get to know kids who are 'different' in some way and realise that actually alot of the time they are just fantastic people if you're willing to work with them instead of against them.

thanks JC, hoping this works out for the best

:lHugs Inchy! You are bringing tears to my eyes. x Don't be a stranger hon.
Hello JC!
Just going to get dinner on...bacinabit x

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

expat3;1283335 wrote:
The kid is NOT going to get kicked out of school-and will continue on next year with the rest of his class.
Thank you all for your support-I felt you there with me. xxx
:yay:

expat3;1283369 wrote: Hello Pingu
Inchy-I'm always happy to see you hon:l
Zenners-I'm not a good stop smoking partner for the moment-but I'm going to catch up with you-again! x Keep going strong-we'll get it eventually. x

Neither am I.


InChains;1283382 wrote: expat: my older brother died before I was born due to a genetic disorder whcih meant he had very severe problems, because of his problems my mum met people with kids who had a huge range of different disabilities and difficulties, it taught her alot and she passed that on to me, would never judge a kids behaviour without the whole story. wish everybody had the chance to get to know kids who are 'different' in some way and realise that actually alot of the time they are just fantastic people if you're willing to work with them instead of against them.

thanks JC, hoping this works out for the best

Inchy have another :l

And there yer are Molls.

[stirly-girly]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

Hello Army!!!

Hopefully MWO connection will be normal tonight and not go into slow motion as it did last night.

expat3;1283335 wrote: Great post Zenners!
The kid is NOT going to get kicked out of school-and will continue on next year with the rest of his class.
Thank you all for your support-I felt you there with me. xxxGreat news ExPatty!!!. I'm so happy for you and your son. Huge :huggy's.

expat3;1283371 wrote: Oh good -there you are Inchy!
Somebody just told me to watch this Pearl Jam video. Trying to understand the lyrics-they say it's about dyslexia -others say not.

These are the lyrics......
Alone, listless, breakfast table in an otherwise empty room
Young girl, violence, center of her own attention
The mother reads aloud child tries to understand it
Tries to make her proud

The shades go down it's in her head
Painted room, can't deny there's something wrong

Don't call me daughter not fit to
The picture kept will remind me
Don't call me daughter not fit to
The picture kept will remind me

Don't call me,
She holds the hand that holds her down
She will, rise above

Don't call me daughter, not fit to
The picture kept will remind me
Don't call me daughter, not fit to be
The picture kept will remind me
Don't call me daughters

The shades go down
The shades go, go, go


http://youtu.be/Vgnl2WLF388[/video]]Pearl Jam - Daughter (Live) - YouTube

This is what Wikipedia says....
Vocalist Eddie Vedder about "Daughter":

The child in that song obviously has a learning difficulty. And it's only in the last few years that they've actually been able to diagnose these learning disabilities that before were looked at as misbehavior, as just outright rebelliousness. But no one knew what it was. And these kids, because they seemed unable or reluctant to learn, they'd end up getting the shit beaten outta them. The song ends, you know, with this idea of the shades going down?so that the neighbors can't see what happens next. What hurts about shit like that is that it ends up defining peoples' lives. They have to live with that abuse for the rest of their lives. Good, creative people are just fucking destroyed.
InChains;1283382 wrote: expat: my older brother died before I was born due to a genetic disorder whcih meant he had very severe problems, because of his problems my mum met people with kids who had a huge range of different disabilities and difficulties, it taught her alot and she passed that on to me, would never judge a kids behaviour without the whole story. wish everybody had the chance to get to know kids who are 'different' in some way and realise that actually alot of the time they are just fantastic people if you're willing to work with them instead of against them.

thanks JC, hoping this works out for the best

Lovely post Inchy and great to see you. I'm sorry about your brother. It must have been very hard on your parents.
:goodjob: on setting up the appointment with the counsellor. Best of luck with that. Please let us know how it goes.

Mrs. A - hope you're feeling better and not so sore. My, that was quite the tumble you took. I'm really amazed that you could go on running at all, never mind run more than you'd already run when you tripped. Hope you're taking good care of yourself and getting some rest.:l

Oney - great job on doing the airport run. You ROCK!!!

Now Molly, I really can't say much more than what has already been said about accepting yourself for the person that you are. I'm not one who pays much attention to what a person looks like - it's what a person is like that matters to me. But I have to say this - from the first time I saw a picture of you on FB from one of the Dublin meet-ups, I said to myself - Molly looks so cool. Love the way she's dressed and she looks like someone really fun to be with. I've not met you in person and we've only exchanged a few PM's here but I want to say that from your posts, you sound like a person that I would absolutely love to hang out with. Your spirit, your sense of humour, and the way you word things are what makes your posts stand out. We can all tell from your posts what a great Mum you are and how much you love your kids and your husband. You're a hard-working, intelligent woman who's had her share of obstacles thrown at her and yet you're still on your feet and fighting. I admire you immensely. And as Reccie and others said, you were missed when you were in rehab. The Army was counting the days til you finished rehab and would be back here and posting again. Our Molly is very dear to us. :l

:hallo: to all of you whether or not I've mentioned your name or replied to your posts.

[anon]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

Good evening
Hoping for normal service here soon.

Well done on the counselling appointment inchy.

Good result Patty.

What do you mean anti social Pingu?

How goes the fag fight Zenners.

Just taken 2 co codamol and Dicloflex So hoping for some pain releif

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

Yoooooooo hooooooooooo Stirls, Our Whizzy.

Decided to come over to the west wing of JC Towers and use the lappy.

[one2many]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

Howiyis Guys,

Some good posts here today. WELL DONE Inchy, thats bleedin deadly!

Anon, you are a brave lass x

[Panno]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

Evening Army

Wow can relate to whats been said and the replies so I suggest a big group :hug:

[Panno]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

Lots of heavy stuff going on at the moment Molly so feeling a bit like shite to be honest and me and Mr P very close to seperating..if my house wasn't rented out I'd be home like a shot

[stirly-girly]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

Panno;1283401 wrote: Evening Army

Wow can relate to whats been said and the replies so I suggest a big group :hug:

:wavin: Panno - good idea!! How about two or three more...

Molly, no need to be embarrassed and no one is "being kind". We're just saying it like it is. Yer more than luverable. You're an asset to any group of people and if anyone doesn't want to be in your company, I'd say it was because they've got their own problems. So feck them.

Oney - I am still amazed that you did he airport run. I've been driving for ever and ever and still hate going to the airport. Get all the arrows and signs and such mixed up.

My Mom just called me to say she wants us to "Skype" so I'm off to talk to my amazing Mom. 82 years young and still going strong. Thank goodness.

Troopers, hastily wishing you...



Tomorrowz...

[Panno]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

Good night Stirly

[one2many]

Army Thread Tuesday 20th March

Ahhh Panno, whats happening hon?

Night Stirls and Mollers xxx