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    It Clouds Your Perception....

    In so many ways.

    I was out on the golf courses with my brother, (ex drinking partner), yesterday. I don't hangout with him as much as I used to when I was drinking, and I seldom talk about the evils of alcohol around him....because he drinks alot, he thinks he likes it, and he doesn't see it as a problem. Anyways the topic of finances came up first, and I told him that I am doing well, and one of the major reasons was because I don't spend as much money now that I don't drink. His reply was that he doesn't shop when he drinks. I told him that I don't shop either but I am saving somewhere between $500 and $700 per month not spending money on beer and booze. He looked at me kind of dumbfounded and said man I have never spent that type of money monthly on booze. I sat back and chuckled because I know what he drinks, and how much he drinks, and how often he goes out and he easily spends that amount...he just doesn't want to see it.

    As we were talking more I told him how my health has improved and how I don't have stress anymore now that I quit drinking, and he said that he has lots of stress because of his occupation, that's why he needs to have drinks a couple of times a week. He doesn't realize that, (and although most drinkers would never believe this), drinking causes these feeling of stress, and the feeling that you need a drink to solve it is a major part of the problem.

    He said drinking doesn't really affect him because he drinks in moderation.....this was after he had finished a 12 pack, and then we went back to the club house where he ordered 2 margeritas before 4 PM. This is his idea of moderation, not falling down slurring drunk.

    The reason why I wanted to bring this up is because he honestly thinks, like I once did, that this is normal drinking and it doesn't affect his life, his health or his wallet. Now although I did take my drinking to the next level and far surpassed him when I was drinking daily, he normally drank with me drink for drink every weekend. He isn't in a doward spiral, and he handles his drinking fine, but nothing I could say to him would ever make him change his perception of how much he drinks and what alcohol is really costing him as far as his wallet or his mental health.

    I am so glad I figured it out and that I am sober today!

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    It Clouds Your Perception....

    I know SO many people like that Supercrew! They will ALWAYS be able to justify it, to others and most of all, to themselves.

    Thank GOD we are out of it, it's a mugs game.
    "It's not your job to like me, it's mine!"

    AF 10th May 2010
    NF 12th May 2010

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      #3
      It Clouds Your Perception....

      Ah a post that describes me in my drinking days, Your so right supercrew when we are drinking we blame everything else but the alcohol.

      You ever hear people say when there dying sick with hangovers say :I am dying sick it must have been that burger I ate, its never the alcohol:


      :congratulatory: Clean & Sober since 13/01/2009 :congratulatory:

      Until one is committed there is always hesitant thoughts.
      I know enough to know that I don't know enough.

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        #4
        It Clouds Your Perception....

        great post Super
        Hubs was drinking over the holiday weekend and I had a few minutes of self pity but I remembered all the agony AL has caused me and it passed...
        I love my family more than alcohol.:h
        Live in the Solution....not the problem

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          #5
          It Clouds Your Perception....

          Great post. Hindsight is truly 20/20. I have had moments like yours Mama Bear.....I didn't always remember the agony. Hope I do going forward.
          Hawk

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            #6
            It Clouds Your Perception....

            Thank you for the replies!

            When I was drinking I knew I spent alot on drinking, but I would have never guessed really how much, but the whole stress/depression/anxiety thing I never had a clue about.

            I am still amazed that things that used to stress me out, and the depression I had were the biggest excuses as why I deserved a drink, and for me at least, they completely disappeared after about 6 months of sober time. I am not sure what the coorelation is, and it still baffles me, but I guess learning to handle this stress and depression without alcohol or another drug has really shown me that it is much much easier to handle anything that life throws at you, real or perceived without a crutch.

            The thing that sucks is the only way you can prove that to someone else is for them to quit drinking on their own and for them to be happy about the decision. I think the biggest issue most people on this forum have is the fact that they don't let themselves be happy with the decision of lifetime sobriety.

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              It Clouds Your Perception....

              Supercrew;1324947 wrote: Thank you for the replies!

              When I was drinking I knew I spent alot on drinking, but I would have never guessed really how much, but the whole stress/depression/anxiety thing I never had a clue about.

              I am still amazed that things that used to stress me out, and the depression I had were the biggest excuses as why I deserved a drink, and for me at least, they completely disappeared after about 6 months of sober time. I am not sure what the coorelation is, and it still baffles me, but I guess learning to handle this stress and depression without alcohol or another drug has really shown me that it is much much easier to handle anything that life throws at you, real or perceived without a crutch.

              The thing that sucks is the only way you can prove that to someone else is for them to quit drinking on their own and for them to be happy about the decision. I think the biggest issue most people on this forum have is the fact that they don't let themselves be happy with the decision of lifetime sobriety.
              Wow! Supercrew, I completely agree with everything that you have shared here! Sadly, there are a lot of people here at MWO, who have been here for years and are much like your brother in law. It is nearly impossible to clearly get the point of all the damage we do while we are embroiled in problem drinking and/or alcoholism, and the damage continues even during times that we are sober. It takes a couple of years of continued sobriety to finally, truly become "Clear Headed". The alcoholic ego, is so harmful! Getting Sober take Complete Humility, but, in the end we regain healthy self esteem!

              Carpe Diem!
              Kate
              A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes~Cinderella

              AF 12/6/2007

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                #8
                It Clouds Your Perception....

                Supercrew;1324947 wrote: Thank you for the replies!

                When I was drinking I knew I spent alot on drinking, but I would have never guessed really how much, but the whole stress/depression/anxiety thing I never had a clue about.

                I am still amazed that things that used to stress me out, and the depression I had were the biggest excuses as why I deserved a drink, and for me at least, they completely disappeared after about 6 months of sober time. I am not sure what the coorelation is, and it still baffles me, but I guess learning to handle this stress and depression without alcohol or another drug has really shown me that it is much much easier to handle anything that life throws at you, real or perceived without a crutch.

                The thing that sucks is the only way you can prove that to someone else is for them to quit drinking on their own and for them to be happy about the decision. I think the biggest issue most people on this forum have is the fact that they don't let themselves be happy with the decision of lifetime sobriety.
                Agreed! Many people are fighting the idea of lifetime sobriety and try and try again to make moderation work. Sobriety seems scary and undesirable to them, yet it's the most freeing thing in the world.

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                  It Clouds Your Perception....

                  mario;1324674 wrote: Ah a post that describes me in my drinking days, Your so right supercrew when we are drinking we blame everything else but the alcohol.

                  You ever hear people say when there dying sick with hangovers say :I am dying sick it must have been that burger I ate, its never the alcohol:
                  Oh Mario, the excuses I made about my "illnesses." The excuses I made about the bruises on my body.

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