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    #1

    Truly heartbreaking

    I just read this and can only hope this doesn't happen to anyone else. This Mom must be truly devastated and hope she gets the help she needs.


    From Huffington Post: Toni Annette Medrano, Mom Who Allegedly Fell Asleep On Baby, Charged In His Death
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    #2
    Truly heartbreaking

    I think charging this woman is wrong. Yep she was drunk and that may have contributed to it, but I've seen local stories of this same thing happening when the mother wasn't drunk, simply fell asleep and at some point rolled over onto the baby and suffocated him/her. I don't think there is any punishment for this kind of thing that could even come close to how the mother feels, whether alcohol is involved or not, it can still happen and is just tragic.

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      #3
      Truly heartbreaking

      I agree DG
      I love my family more than alcohol.:h
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        #4
        Truly heartbreaking

        How horrible but I do agree, what purpose would convicting her of murder serve society. Money would more wisely be spent in addiction support and counseling.
        Psalms 119:45


        ?Start by doing what is necessary, then what is possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible.?

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          #5
          Truly heartbreaking

          This was the second time that this happened. This woman's first baby died the same way a couple of years ago. There were no charges the first time.

          Car accidents happen every day as well, but, if a person is drunk and causes an accident, that person will be charged. The fact is, that we are responsible for our actions and the consequences of our actions if we are drunk.

          Many of us here have had to deal with consequences of alcohol, myself included. Although many of us have not yet had serious scrapes with the law due to AL, if we continue to drink, this is a possibility. I think Mtn. Momma is correct is saying that this story should give everyone reason to think about actions and consequences.
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            #6
            Truly heartbreaking

            I second Kate.


            Jail, rehab- it's unclear where this poor woman's journey will lead her.

            Wish she had found us first... :upset:
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              #7
              Truly heartbreaking

              Where I live this has happened 9 times this year and 23 times last year. They call it drunken baby smothering here. I agree with Kate, she should be charged. There was a Mom sentenced yesterday for killing her 10 year old in a drunk driving accident to 5 years in prison. No matter how you kill someone, drinking is not a free pass nor an excuse to not to be charged. Drunken "accidents" are not ok. Someone is dead and another caused it.
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                #8
                Truly heartbreaking

                All of these cases are tragic. Perhaps something like involuntary manslaughter would be more appropriate. God help any of us that need forgiveness if we don't have it in our own hearts.
                Psalms 119:45


                ?Start by doing what is necessary, then what is possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible.?

                St. Francis of Assisi



                I'm not perfect, never will be, but better than I was and not as good as I'm going to be.

                :rays:

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                  #9
                  Truly heartbreaking

                  The anguish I would feel in this situation would be the end of me, I'm sure of that. One of the reasons I felt I needed to quit! I don't know how one goes about forgiving oneself, hell, I have a long list of things I can't forgive myself for-yet. I hope this poor woman gets some help.

                  CW

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                    #10
                    Truly heartbreaking

                    Amen, Crazy

                    Never seems to matter how many people forgive me for the crap I have done.
                    I can't forgive myself...yet...

                    Working on that :h
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                      #11
                      Truly heartbreaking

                      RingingCedars;1332203 wrote: All of these cases are tragic. Perhaps something like involuntary manslaughter would be more appropriate. God help any of us that need forgiveness if we don't have it in our own hearts.
                      RC, expecting justice and punishment for a crime has NOTHING to do with mercy or forgiveness. Perhaps being prosecuted this time will prevent a THIRD innocent child from death! The true victims here are two innocent children.
                      A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes~Cinderella

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                        #12
                        Truly heartbreaking

                        Hearing the stats makes me rethink this one...
                        I love my family more than alcohol.:h
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                          #13
                          Truly heartbreaking

                          The tragedy was bad enough, but at the same time just because she was drunk does not mean that she should get scot free. She could have prevented this. I think that she should get charged. Like Red said, Drinking doesn't give anyone a get out of murder/manslaughter card. She needs to get help and not be allowed to have any more kids. She should have gotten charged the first time. Now a second life had to pay because she didn't have the power to say no and instead get drunk and sleep with the baby on the couch. I hope that she has it in her to quit and never go back to drinking.
                          I quit drinking on March 8, 2020. Taking it One Day At A Time and no more taking my quit for granted.

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                            #14
                            Truly heartbreaking

                            I googled it and couldn't find any mention of this being the second time it happened with her? I agree if it happened before then it's a bit different. But to me this isn't like she got drunk and shook her baby or got in a car and drove, she fell asleep and sleeping with a baby at any time can be risky.

                            "The tragedy was bad enough, but at the same time just because she was drunk does not mean that she should get scot free.

                            She isn't getting off scot free though, can you imagine waking up to find you've suffocated your baby in your sleep? I don't see how anyone could ever get over the guilt of that. She needs rehab or some other help not jail time IMO.

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                              #15
                              Truly heartbreaking

                              Sure she will have to live with it for the rest of her life, but I still feel that she should get charged. I heard in an earlier post about the 2nd time so I dunno if that is true. But even if its not, and like I said before, being drunk does not give you a scot free card. Sure she wasn't driving, shook her baby, but she did kill her baby and the fact is she did it in a way that it could have been easily prevented. Would she have done this sober? Chances are good that the answer would be no. The father isn't totally innocent neither. He could have picked the baby up and moved the baby once he fell asleep.
                              I quit drinking on March 8, 2020. Taking it One Day At A Time and no more taking my quit for granted.

                              Also doing it for me. I got to stay sober for me.

                              Just consecrate on today and do what you can to remain sober for today and worry about staying sober tomorrow, tomorrow.

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