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    **One of the reasons I drink...long**

    Here goes...soul-bearing time. Now that I'm not drinking on Friday nights, I'm thinking instead! So, I'm laying in bed and it occurs to me to come here and tell you all one of the reasons I drink. Background first - I married my high school sweetheart 17 years ago - we each had substance abuse problems in our past, but we put it all behind us and decided to get sober and have a family. My husband now has a successful business and I was a stay at home mom for many years and I recently went back to my before-kids career as a legal secretary.

    We have 3 kids - our oldest daughter is 16 1/2, smart, gorgeous, very social and popular. She was just inducted into NHS and music honors society and recently scored 1630 on her SAT's! We're starting to look at colleges for her - she'll be successful I'm certain and hopefully won't take the hard road like her parents. Then, we have another daughter - she's almost 13 and funny and cute as the day is long! Very smart, pretty and social too although still a little on the" too young to tell where she's going yet with her" life side! Then, we have a son - our middle child - he was 2 months old when I got pregnant with our 3rd, so he never had any alone with mom time. He's going to be 14 in June. This is the one I'm very concerned about and I'm hoping by putting this out there, someone will be able to help me cope with my concerns.

    From the time he was very young, my son's been very artistic. At the age of 3, my mom, (who is a domestic violence specialist and drug and alcohol abuse counselor by trade) hinted that she thought he might be gay when he gets older. I don't know how one can tell at that age, but that's how she felt. My husband was furious with her and it almost ruined their relationship.

    Long story short, we had a huge blow up in our family because a brother of mine called him a little "fa**ot" when he was 7, out of anger towards me and out of his own hatred for himself. This caused such a rift in my family, I didn't speak to my mother for many years because of it (it really is way too long to go into..) Anyway, we pulled away from our family to protect my son. He then became very interested in performing in plays and getting lead roles at a young age which we supported. He played soccer at the time and we figured that diversity was good for him. But he quickly lost interest in sports. For the last 3 years, he has been a performing member of a famous boys choir. It's been a great ride, but as he has gotten older, I've seen more and more "odd" or different behavior from him. He has completely withdrawn from any male peer interaction at school and only hangs out with girls. He did this in elementary school too, but now it's exclusively 2-3 girls are his only friends. The only boys he is comfortable with is in choir, but he only sees them at rehearsals twice a week and he doesn't really have any close friendships. He stays home all the time and gets obsesseed with music, operas, plays - anything theatrical, despite my urgings to get him to try other things. He is now at the point where he just repels other boys - our long-time friends' kids rarely make conversation with him (unless they are a girl) and even family members seem to be uncomfortable around him because he is a little more cultured then they know what to do with and also because he doesn't play sports of any kind nor is he interested. And my family is largely atheletic.

    I have to admit - it's painful watching him unfold into a secluded young man who doesn't have any interest in what other boys his age are doing other than the few he knows in choir. He'd rather hang out at home singing or watching Phantom of the Opera or playing on the computer. I worry for him - and this is one of the reasons I drink - to numb the pain and deny the reality. My husband and I, who have a great relationship, do not agree on how to handle this. It's the one thing we argue about. He says, we can't change him and let it be. And as much as I know that to be true, I just feel sad to think that my only son might have a tough road ahead of him if he continues this way. Sorry for the long read - any thoughts? Dori

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    Hmm. I don't have any kids, but I'll try. If he is different, or even turns out to be gay, he will have a tougher time just because of that. Let's face it, society has come a long way, but prejudice is still there. In either case, you just have to be there for your son if/when times get tough. Your drinking won't make you stronger, and you will need to be strong for him, and all your children. Also, I'm sad to hear what your brother said. I can't imagine anybody being that much of a jerk.

    Also, I think it is great that you realized why you drink. That has got to be a huge peice of the puzzle we are all trying to piece together.

    And congrats to your oldest daughter. A 1630!! That is awesome.

    Anyway, stick around, as I'm sure you'll get a ton of advice from the parents out there. In the mean time, until they show up, I just wanted to show my support.
    where does this go?

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      #3
      **One of the reasons I drink...long**

      Good Morning to you Dorilynn, No solutions I'm afraid, don't know if any of us will have but I'm sure you will get helpful postings from folks who have or have had similar experiences, if anywhere, this is the place to share and receive. My initial thoughts, for what they are worth is - sometimes we can't see the wood for the trees, you and your family have many, many blessings and I include the child you are concerned about here too. This child, although possibly 'different' (so what?) will be safe in the love of his family, just the same as your other children. Sorry I'm not experienced at all but just wanted to reach out to you. Que sera sera.

      Tea please.
      Rather die standing, than live on my knees, begging Please..... No More.......

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        #4
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        I believe our job as parents is to support our kids in their interests. I think what he is interested in is a wonderful thing. Do we really care he likes men or women? Who gives a crap? He could grow up to be the next Broadway superstar or play writer. Are you embarassed because he does not fit what we all deem to be normal in society? Don't lay that trip on him. Let him turn into the person he was meant to be. We are all born with a certain chemistry and makeup. It cannot be changed, it cannot be altered. If you squelch what really is in a person you are doing a huge disservice. I think he sounds like an accomplished young man and it sounds like you are very proud, if not a little concerned, about him. Don't be. So he is different from your other kids. So what? So were a lot of geniuses in our time. There is no norm in our society, and in fact what most of us consider as the norm I think is very superficial and too cookie cutter. I admire him for being different.
        I'm really easy to get along with once people learn to worship me

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          #5
          **One of the reasons I drink...long**

          Dori, my sister-in-law is going through the same thing, She is the one that mentioned it to me. Even though I was thinking it. She tends to think it's because her son hasn't had a strong male influence. She is a single Mom. She just can't find a decent man (a story for another day) We ahve to wait and see as he is 8. I think at 14 you just ask him do you like boys? Any let him know it's OK either way. You love him. When I was growing up, there was this boy (when I met him he was around 5) We all knew that Jimmy was gay. Even though he had 3 older big burley straight brothers and Father around. Jimmy is a pround Gay man today. I just think they you are born that way. There is no shame in it. I am willing to wager that every family in America has a least 1 Gay person in it. I have a first cousin who is a lesbian it took my Aunt quite a while to accept it. Her final answer, I love her, she is my child this is not the life I wanted for her,but it's the one she's chosen and I accept that.

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            #6
            **One of the reasons I drink...long**

            Dorilynn
            As a mother of 2 sons 13 and 17 I can understand the difficulty of raising teens. My 13 year old is very social plays competitive soccer and is thriving in life. Ive spent most of my 17 year old's life worrying about him until the last couple of years. Let's just say I have been over protective one because he has epilepsy (a mild form controlled with meds) thank god! Anyway, he isn't very social (hangs out with kids only during school), not into sports but loves to watch football, very shy, and into the culinary arts. Years back my husband and I wondered if he may be gay for no reason other than the fact that he was a sensitvie creative person, and made the decision if he is, so be it. At this point we have found that he is not. We have also come to the conclusion after much drinking, stress and worrying about his social life that he is who he is, a shy person who is comfortable with himself and doesn't need to be social to complete his life. I've looked at the positve side of this, he his happy, works very hard at school, responsible, stays out of trouble, doesn't party or drink (thank god), enjoys spending time with his family and doesn't care what people think of him. I've spent my whole life trying to please others and worried what people thought of me which is one big reason I drank. If only I could have had half the "I don't care what people think of me" attitude my son has. To get to my point, look at all the positve things about your son, he is who he is and that's what makes him special.

            Also, just want to say yesterday was my first day without a drink, I can't tell you all how nice it was to spend an evening with my kids sober. Your support means the world to me
            Colorado Chick!
            Your support means the world to me...:h

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              #7
              **One of the reasons I drink...long**

              Dorilynn - your situation sounds just like my sister's with my nephew. He's 17 now and he is gay. He knows he is loved and supported by his whole family. I think the most important thing is to be totally supportive of his interests. I totally agree with Lush - if he's gay, remember he didn't choose this, it chose him. (it's funny how that is so clear to me when it comes to being gay, but not with alcoholism - which I still can't accept is a disease vs. willpower) - Good luck with everything!!

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                #8
                **One of the reasons I drink...long**

                Hi Dorilyn,
                As a mother of 2 sons 13 and 17 I can understand the difficulty of raising teens. My 13 year old is very social plays competitive soccer and is thriving in life. Ive spent most of my 17 year old's life worrying about him until the last couple of years. Let's just say I have been over protective one because he has epilepsy (a mild form controlled with meds) thank god! Anyway, he isn't very social (hangs out with kids only during school), not into sports but loves to watch football, very shy, and into the culinary arts. Years back my husband and I wondered if he may be gay for no reason other than the fact that he was a sensitvie creative person, and made the decision if he is, so be it. At this point we have found that he is not. We have also come to the conclusion after much drinking, stress and worrying about his social life that he is who he is, a shy person who is comfortable with himself and doesn't need to be social to complete his life. I've looked at the positive side of this, he seems happy, works very hard at school, responsible, stays out of trouble, doesn't party or drink (thank god), enjoys spending time with his family and doesn't care what people think of him. I've spent my whole life trying to please others and worried what people thought of me which is one big reason I drank. If only I could have had half the "I don't care what people think of me" attitude my son has. To get to my point, look at all the positve things about your son, he is who he is and that's what makes him special.

                Also, just want to say yesterday was my first day without a drink, I can't tell you all how nice it was to spend an evening with my kids sober. Your support means the world to me.
                Colorado Chick!
                Your support means the world to me...:h

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                  #9
                  **One of the reasons I drink...long**

                  **thank you**

                  to all who posted a reply to my soul-bearing post - many of you brought tears to my eyes and I feel there are more of me out there with the same or similar struggles. I felt reassured after reading each reply - with gratitude :thanks: Dori

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                    #10
                    **One of the reasons I drink...long**

                    Dori .... I think if your son is gay then that really is OK ...

                    Just let him be hisself (is that a word), there are worse things out there ....

                    Denise, My daughter has epilepsy so I know exactly where you are .....
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                      #11
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                      Hi Dori,
                      Although I haven't reached the teenage years with my daughter yet, my two cents would be: give your son loads of your love while he's still young and you can!! He will soon be out in the world to find his own way. You have a few more years to shower him with your love, tell him again and again how proud you are and lend your strength and support for what is probably much harder for him... than you. Kids, they grow up so fast.

                      take care, Olly

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                        #12
                        **One of the reasons I drink...long**

                        Hey Dori, I was involved a lot in theatre in school and we had a lot of guys in it who were gay, and a lot of guys in it to meet girls. I'm gonna tell you a little story here, but I am not in anyway comparing you to the story, I am just sharing something to show you the power of a persons perception of others actions. MY mother cannot stand the thought of one of her children embarrasing her, she hates the idea of anyone in her fmaily thinking she was somehow flawed. I was quite the tomboy growing up, I never had any friends that were girls, I never played with dolls, and it drove my mom nuts. My dad didnt care, he thought it was cool. Well it was very obvious to me my mom would have been ashamed if any of her children turned out to be gay. Apparently, my mom thought I was gay, so did my dad...I'm not....When I was growing up my mom made it obvious how much she didnt want to see gay people on TV or in front of her or have it flaunted as accepted...keep in mind i was a child still forming my perception of my parents...and a lot of my friends were gay, and I still have friends that are gay, i dont care personally. Here is the thing, my mom still thinks I am gay...I dont share my life with her because she never gave it a chance... i have a lovely boyfriend who i will probably marry someday and I am sure I will evetually have children if I am healthy and able, but I dont think she has a right to share in my joy, because even if that person were a girlfriend she should be just as happy for me, because all we should ever want for our loved ones is for them to find their own happiness--whatever that may be. If he is 14 and he is gay, he is probably already struggling pretty hard to accept that he has to live with it, i had some friends in high school go through the same thing, and the ones who came through it the best were the ones with the most supportive homes. All I can say I love him for who he is. Best of luck to you

                        Victoria
                        It's not that some people have willpower and some don't. It's that some people are ready to change and others are not.
                        James Gordon, M.D.

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                          #13
                          **One of the reasons I drink...long**

                          Bit long and deep!!!

                          OK..i really don't mean to offend anyone here...this is just my personal opinion. Up until a few months ago i truly believed that there were several reasons why i drank...firstly i was abused as a child and i had to watch my mother be beaten and hospitalised virtually every wkend by my alcoholic step dad ( she sometimes used to hide behind me in bed to avoid his punches). secondly...I was bullied all through junior and high school. thirdly i then had two abusive relationships myself. Then i met a lovely man and ironically enough thats when the drinking started...destroyed relationship. fourthly i was raped the year before last. I always used these life events as a reason for my drinking...but a close friend whom is 72 and I'm only 29!! pointed out to me that..yes these things have been horrid experiences in your life but did any one of those people force that glass to your mouth and make you drink...and the answer was no....it was my choice to deal with my life by drinking..no one forced me to i wanted to drink to block it all out but in the end it made it worse. So i don't blame the things that have happened to me or the people who have hurt me for my drinking because I was the one who chose drink to block it out rather than face reality.
                          Please no one be offended by this i just think that you have control of your own destiny and if you chose alcohol as an escape as i did for many years....then you cant blame others no matter how much s**t they have put you through cause i bet not one of the people who've hurt you forced you to drink afterwards...its our own way of dealing with it

                          Love you all an again i hope i aint upset anyone, iv prob worded it all wrong but i hope it makes some kind of sense

                          Lou-Lou x x x
                          "Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around"...Penelope Cruz...Vanilla Sky

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                            #14
                            **One of the reasons I drink...long**

                            It makes sense Lou. I agree.

                            Victoria
                            It's not that some people have willpower and some don't. It's that some people are ready to change and others are not.
                            James Gordon, M.D.

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                              #15
                              **One of the reasons I drink...long**

                              Thanks Victoria...the last thing i wanna do is upset or offend anyone x x
                              "Every passing minute is a chance to turn it all around"...Penelope Cruz...Vanilla Sky

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