Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

[Recluse]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

My tuppenyworth...I have absolutely no problem with using wine or even cider or beer for cooking, and I do...lots. As far as I can tell, all or nearly all of the alcohol evaporates and I think the wine adds greatly to the taste of a lot sauces and stocks. Don't have a problem with wine at a civilised meal in company either. Two, three, or four glasses, no problem. That's fine. It's what happens when I'm on my own that's the problem (and that's most of the time). I get the shakes when sober, which I believe (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) is an indicatiion of physical dependency, but I can overcome that. It's the psychological dependency that's the issue for me. It's when I'm on my own (which is most of the time) and there's a bottle of something strong in the house that it becomes a problem.

[Zenstyle]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

Mick;1428973 wrote: Aha that drawing is very simple my dear friends.....it is a hand held (as opposed to galactically mounted) interstellar fulcrum finder which is simultaneously balanced in a horizontal mode spectrometric diffusing reducer.........or it could be a torch :H:H:H

Eh? :H

[anon]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

My friends always accept that I do not have any alcohol now. I do not like food with alcohol in it except mussels!

[anon]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

Recluse;1428998 wrote: My tuppenyworth...I have absolutely no problem with using wine or even cider or beer for cooking, and I do...lots. As far as I can tell, all or nearly all of the alcohol evaporates and I think the wine adds greatly to the taste of a lot sauces and stocks. Don't have a problem with wine at a civilised meal in company either. Two, three, or four glasses, no problem. That's fine. It's what happens when I'm on my own that's the problem (and that's most of the time). I get the shakes when sober, which I believe (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) is an indicatiion of physical dependency, but I can overcome that. It's the psychological dependency that's the issue for me. It's when I'm on my own (which is most of the time) and there's a bottle of something strong in the house that it becomes a problem.

I really get that especially the drinking at home on your own:l

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

MUSCLES?

Oh, sorry, mussels.

Thought you were a carnivore there for a mo' mrsa.

[Zenstyle]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

I'm being a bit of a pain in the arse. I'm scared quite honestly... and I didn't mean to piss you off Jacks.


Dear Jackie,

You are one of my best friends...

Lots of love,

Zenny xxx

(That one in the front is me... kissing my arse goodbye before rehab...)

[Quest for the key]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

Recluse;1428998 wrote: My tuppenyworth...I have absolutely no problem with using wine or even cider or beer for cooking, and I do...lots. As far as I can tell, all or nearly all of the alcohol evaporates and I think the wine adds greatly to the taste of a lot sauces and stocks. Don't have a problem with wine at a civilised meal in company either. Two, three, or four glasses, no problem. That's fine. It's what happens when I'm on my own that's the problem (and that's most of the time). I get the shakes when sober, which I believe (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) is an indicatiion of physical dependency, but I can overcome that. It's the psychological dependency that's the issue for me. It's when I'm on my own (which is most of the time) and there's a bottle of something strong in the house that it becomes a problem.

I don't know where my dependency lies tbh. I'm not physically dependant on it - no shakes or anything. I mean I'm racking up AF days like a good un - not all consecutive but better than I've done in years so that's progress in my book !

With regards to wine in cooking - don't use it - never have - no particular reason just never have. (Cos I'm a crap cook lol)

Mouthwash and medicine - don't use either - think over the counter stuff is shite anyway ! And if the doctor prescribes something if I'm
Ill I'm gonna take it - nit with the intention of getting drunk - just to get well.

[Quest for the key]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

Zenstyle;1429007 wrote: I'm being a bit of a pain in the arse. I'm scared quite honestly... and I didn't mean to piss you off Jacks.


Dear Jackie,

You are one of my best friends...

Lots of love,

Zenny xxx

(That one in the front is me... kissing my arse goodbye before rehab...)

Me thinks there's a touch of nervousness zenners ?

Well we all love you too - not a pain in the arse at all - btw watch the one behind you - he's got a light saber and he's coming your way:H

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

Quest for the key;1429013 wrote: Me thinks there's a touch of nervousness zenners ?

Well we all love you too - not a pain in the arse at all - btw watch the one behind you - he's got a light saber and he's coming your way:H

Oi finks it's a torch Questy. :H

[Zenstyle]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

Recluse;1428998 wrote: My tuppenyworth...I have absolutely no problem with using wine or even cider or beer for cooking, and I do...lots. As far as I can tell, all or nearly all of the alcohol evaporates and I think the wine adds greatly to the taste of a lot sauces and stocks. Don't have a problem with wine at a civilised meal in company either. Two, three, or four glasses, no problem. That's fine. It's what happens when I'm on my own that's the problem (and that's most of the time). I get the shakes when sober, which I believe (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) is an indicatiion of physical dependency, but I can overcome that. It's the psychological dependency that's the issue for me. It's when I'm on my own (which is most of the time) and there's a bottle of something strong in the house that it becomes a problem.

Spot on, in my humble opinion.

Rome was not built in a day but it looks to me like you had a break-through. I reckon you are gaining insight.

Yes, the shakes are an indicator but I think you might be able to fix that with drinking more water and.... roll of drums..... less whiskey.

:alf:

Course the running helps and all.

:goodjob:

[Zenstyle]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

Quest for the key;1429013 wrote: Me thinks there's a touch of nervousness zenners ?

Well we all love you too - not a pain in the arse at all - btw watch the one behind you - he's got a light saber and he's coming your way:H

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :H:H:H

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

I got a wee query. I rarely got the shakes... and when I say shakes, I mean like my alkie colleague at work who physically shakes everyday - his handwriting shows it well (I've seen this in other alkies before). Sure, my handwriting wasn't sturdy sometimes - was aware of that - but never the shakes where my hands physically shook so as others could see. Or have I just forgotten?

[Zenstyle]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

LMAO....

Jaysus, I can't even have a quiet moment to kiss my arse good bye can I? :H:H:H

[Zenstyle]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

RunningCourage;1429020 wrote: I got a wee query. I rarely got the shakes... and when I say shakes, I mean like my alkie colleague at work who physically shakes everyday - his handwriting shows it well (I've seen this in other alkies before). Sure, my handwriting wasn't sturdy sometimes - was aware of that - but never the shakes where my hands physically shook so as others could see. Or have I just forgotten?

Newp. It presents differently in all of us. Quite frankly, it seems that some of us with the Celtic genes fare better when it comes to physical symptoms. Don't be lulled though... it still fucks with our noggins.

I was HORRIFIED one day... my hands shook... it was a few New Years ago. 1st of Jan or the 2nd... was a bit of a blur really. So, no, I don't get that usually.... but what I get instead is a debilitating illness that ruins my enjoyment of life.

Shake or no shake... it sucks.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread, Tuesday the 18th and it's almost frikken Chrimbo again!!!!

I know you're scared Zennifer,hun.:l Just trying to pass on some of my scant wisdom.

I drank to escape...............gawd how many people say that. I drank so much that I became physically dependent. Not a pretty sight gagging a vodka down first thing in the morning just to be 'normal'.

So there I was a wreck. A nicely married woman who no-one would ever have dreamed that she'd have to be de-toxed 11/12 times and apart from the last time didn't keep her quit going.

I'll never forget asking the kids what was the best thing about me being sober and it was that I'd stopped crying and started laughing more. Oh and I'd stopped being sick in the morning.

Gawd you'd think I'd been at the gin I'm getting maudlin, although I'm happy in my sobriety those thoughts are not far from my mind.