Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

[Recluse]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

Morning!

Molly...sorry to hear your news :l:l:l Just thinking aloud here...maybe it would be for the best if Joey did come home for a while, then at least you would be able to keep an eye on him to some extent and try to get him back on the straight and narrow? It's a very difficult situation obviously.

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[Cinders]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

Molly,

:l:l

Mine are both in their 30s and I STILL have worries. sigh.

My only advice is that you do not enable, if something is going on, and you support if you see him doing the right thing.

Yes, teens sure make The Serenity Prayer a staple, don't they?

As far as guilt. Nope. Guilt means you are currently doing something you should stop. You aren't. Remorse, perhaps for drinking around him but can't do anything about that now. Let remorse go. He is old enough to be making his own choices and, if I know teens, he will make them without much advice from you. All you can do is do the next right thing, sweetie.

Waves to the rest of the army.

JC, I know the whole 4 hours sleep deal. Up at 2:30 a.m. my time this morning, myself.

Love,
Cindi

[Cinders]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

btw, Mark Twain hit the nail on the head about teenagers:

?When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.?

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Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

mollyka;1501469 wrote: Ah reccie ur sweet and I'm onto that site post haste - cannot go on like this!
Yes it certainly wud b better if he comes home - once there isn't some other arseholes flat he can just move onto! Just holding our collective breaths till fri tbh!!

How's the taper going?

Fingers crossed for you that he comes home then.

The tapering isn't easy at all, even at this early stage, but it's on track, just about.

Hi cindi

[mario]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

Good morning and special hugs to molly.

[Wagoneer]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

Morning all - (((((((Molly)))))))!!! Sending good thoughts your way. JC hope you get some snooze time!

I have been sleeping a bit better - still take a benadryl here and there, but the vitamins seem to help. The husband got the yeard planted. I always say I am going to help, but end up letting him and the little one do it. He is VEY particular. I tend the garden once it is planted and pick the veggies and cook em up. I will post a picture when it gets in bloom. It is so nice, something you don't see alot in the city. We are lucky to have a nice yard. Well off to shower, then mass and a a communion party. Hope you all have a lovely day. Oh, has anyone heard from Inchy? I could not find the thread he mentioned he would start a while ago. Or maybe I am not seeing it. Or maybe I dreamt it. Who knows.

Later friends,

Waggy

[Recluse]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

mollyka;1501479 wrote: I'm guessing tapering is way harder than the medication route tbh - I wonder if you tell the counsellor next week that you're finding it very hard would he think of recommending a week of librium or whatever instead? Well done keeping on track -
Librium is an option if the tapering fails molly, but I want to avoid it if possible cos I think it may be residential.

Wagoneer;1501489 wrote: Morning all - (((((((Molly)))))))!!! Sending good thoughts your way. JC hope you get some snooze time!

I have been sleeping a bit better - still take a benadryl here and there, but the vitamins seem to help. The husband got the yeard planted. I always say I am going to help, but end up letting him and the little one do it. He is VEY particular. I tend the garden once it is planted and pick the veggies and cook em up. I will post a picture when it gets in bloom. It is so nice, something you don't see alot in the city. We are lucky to have a nice yard. Well off to shower, then mass and a a communion party. Hope you all have a lovely day. Oh, has anyone heard from Inchy? I could not find the thread he mentioned he would start a while ago. Or maybe I am not seeing it. Or maybe I dreamt it. Who knows.

Later friends,

Waggy

This is the link to inchy's thread, waggy:

https://www.mywayout.org/community/f8...oad-76545.html

Inchy is a woman BTW. She posted in the early hours that she was drinking, I'm sorry to say. Inchy...I hope you'll seek help.

Hi mario

[InChains]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

morning or afternoon all. sending hugs to you molly.

so i'll do the easy bit first: on the male/female front, yes I am female xD but I do call my other half the wife, I do speak and behave in a masculine way, my avatar is a man and in real life I have a mans name. I like making it difficult for people haha.

and the less easy bit:

so I drank last night. because I don't know how to be good company sober. and I had a bad day. and I'm stupid, actually... that pretty much covers it. My other half fell asleep about 12.30 and I was up til nearly 2 just falling apart over it, I can't forgive myself, I feel awful and ashamed. I didn't know if I'd post in here today because, well because I read all the encouragement and nice things you all had to say and I didn't know if i could face any one of you knowing that I let everybody down, including myself. I robbed myself of the chance to have my longest af period in 4 years before download, i robbed myself of reaching day 4 for the first time in 2 years. I consented to take drugs again (only pot...) later this week and...

I'm really sorry.

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

Hey Inchy,

First and foremost - you must stop beating yourself up. And DO NOT call yourself stupid - YOU ARE NOT - FAR, FAR FROM IT. Honestly, no amount of self-flagellation is going to solve anything. Congratulate yourself - seriously - you tried in earnest and whether you decide to continue for the rest of the 42 days or to take on another approach, the most important thing is YOU TRIED. You Inchy, are no quitter. Period.

Secondly - and I reckon JC and Molls and Satz will be hurtling this your way also - do not say sorry. You have NOTHING to be sorry for. Like I say you tried, you are trying... and quitting something a drug that 98% of the population indulge to a lesser or greater extent, is, quite frankly, a Herculean task.

Thirdly... forgive yourself. Take time to chill, relax. Personally I would just take today and spend it doing only what you need to do. Tomorrow too. And the day after. Don't think about conquering the world. Not yet at least . Just relax, preferably don;t drink, and chill. You've put - and likely continue to put? - a lot of expectation and pressure on yourself. Just zen it for a day...

Arsey :l

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

There I only had a wee nap. Got a load of planters to errrrrrrrrr plant.

Now then Inchy, what is this apologising all about. No need to say sorry to us. Dya not think a 1001 of us and more have gone and done the exact same thing as you did last night.

You may have agreed to smoke this week but that's easy dealt with. It's not written in stone so chuck that idea straight out the winder. OK.

Next on the agenda try for 4 days this week. By now you know it's shit but you're prepared for it to be shit but it is doable. You know that, you're a very bright woman.

And the best thing of all, you logged in today not in 6 months down the line.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

:H:H our Batphones must have gone off a the same time Molls.


Yo there Runners.

[InChains]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

thanks everyone, i can't say too much now, still trying to get my head round it. I'll probably spend the whole night, hell maybe the whole week beating myself up over it but... well thats me for ya haha. But I will be doing it sober, if I learnt one thing from last night its that really, truthfully right now I do want to do this. I just wish it hand't have taken falling off the wagon to prove to me how much I want to be on it. Anyway I'll check back later when I'm done kicking my own ass for this - have my mothers shopping to do, she's ill again so... woot i guess haha.

-inchy

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Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

InChains;1501510 wrote: so I drank last night. because I don't know how to be good company sober. and I had a bad day. and I'm stupid, actually... that pretty much covers it. My other half fell asleep about 12.30 and I was up til nearly 2 just falling apart over it, I can't forgive myself, I feel awful and ashamed. I didn't know if I'd post in here today because, well because I read all the encouragement and nice things you all had to say and I didn't know if i could face any one of you knowing that I let everybody down, including myself. I robbed myself of the chance to have my longest af period in 4 years before download, i robbed myself of reaching day 4 for the first time in 2 years. I consented to take drugs again (only pot...) later this week and...

I'm really sorry.

Hi inchy. You are not stupid at all, and you have absolutely nothing to apologise for or be ashamed of. I'm sorry you caved in because I want you to be free of this disease. It's really important to understand that this disease is progressive so the sooner you can find a way to get yourself off the drink the better it will be for you in the long run and we all want what's best for you. :l

[Recluse]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

mollyka;1501527 wrote: ABSOLUTELY again - re. the progressive nature of the disease - it's inevitable imo that a problem drinker/alcoholic will be drinking more this time next year, and the next and so on than they are today - so if you're unhappy with your drinking today...... there is absolutely no chance of you being happier this time next year ---- just save yourself the pain really is all I can say - a short term 'controlling' of drinking can be very deceiving ...... it's all bollix:l

Achully Joey has just arrived - he's in great form, sounds happy, no mention of impending eviction...... FFS - I give up ----- nearly He's my wee boy --- I'll never give up - as long as I've breath in me!!

As usual, you put it much better than I did, molly. "Save yourself the pain" is excellent advice.

That's good about joey.

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Thursday 5th May 2013

Molls I nearly put auld bat phone. :new:

There ya are Reccy. I totally understand trying to get back on track. I know when they were trying to taper me down I'm ashamed to admit that I went full steam ahead for the first couple of days.


My detoxes were day patient, turn up at 8.30am off home at 7pm zonked out of me eyeballs. Oh and the food was great.

Anyway it's early days. It might be residential detox but I'm afraid it may have to be done but it's only a few days out of your life. What's that compared to decades of drinking. 3 days and you'll feel a different man, not quite Johnny Depp but a new man.