Army Thread Sunday May 19th

[JackieClaire]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

Well that's the washing on and last nights dishes.
Visitors sorted for him in horsepital.

Now all I've got to do is walk the dog.

Must away to get dressed. Bacinashortishbit.

[satz123]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

Talk later folks -
And I don't feel sorry for ME anymore:
Look at this:
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[pingu1997]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

satz123;1507651 wrote: Talk later folks -
And I don't feel sorry for ME anymore:
Look at this:
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Told ya,about that satz..its good there

Passed,stage 4

[Recluse]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

Back from the supermarket. This time WITH groceries. :goodjob:

satz123;1507628 wrote: Yeah - and do you think that is why we drink ?? ..... we do not feel 'happiness' like we are 'supposed' to ....... I often think that. I can feel happy / content but never actually show it !
I think people abuse alcohol for a variety of different reasons satzy, but in many cases unhappiness or sometimes just lack of happiness (boredom) is the root cause of our drinking. Some people simply have a genetic predisposition to becoming addicted.

satz123;1507631 wrote: Get AB Tabbers. Totally worked for me. I was same as you - daily drink - not VAST amounts but daily all the same.
Once I decided - I took the AB and did my first 7 days AF in years :goodjob:
If by any chance I manage to put in a couple of weeks AF, I plan to ask my GP if she will put me on AB, but I've read that many GPs are unwilling to prescribe it.

mollyka;1507633 wrote: ...but I also think we unlearn unaided happiness - when the grog does the 'happy' for us --- so now I'm re-learning it - but is IS slow.
That's a very good observation!!!

mario;1507634 wrote: Good morning,lovely day here so far.

Morning marioman

satz123;1507640 wrote: Oh Molls -you are so wise - do you just 'know' this stuff or did you learn it in the quare place?

Isn't she? Molly, I wish you would compile a compendium of your insights into alcoholism and life in general.

mollyka;1507647 wrote: Haha - I did sorta 'know' some of it, but learnt a lot in Aiseiri!! A lot of what makes sense that they imparted to us is --- the person we were as a child doesn't just go away - yeah - we grow up and mature - but we are still 'that' person -- so the wounds that were done to us in childhood have a big impact on our lives - so too the way we viewed life - we can get that back - the bits we want.

That's another good insight...

mollyka;1507647 wrote: ...we get treated the way we deserve I think - so if we've no self-esteem and feel worthless and behave that way --- that's the way we'll be treated - simple as!!!

and there's another one! Blimey molly, I've learnt quite a bit from you today.

[Recluse]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

pingu1997;1507652 wrote: Told ya,about that satz..its good there

Passed,stage 4

Well done P3 :goodjob:

[Wagoneer]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

Morning all!

Ktab! So nice to see you! I am so glad you're back. We were worried. A friend of mine shared this with me and it really resonated with me. I am 81 days sober today. Not a milestone, per se, but every day I don't think about AL is a milestone I am happy.

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
As far as possible, without surrender,
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even to the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
they are vexatious to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter,
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs,
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals,
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love,
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace in your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

[Anjicia]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

Afternoon army lots of wisdom and sound advice on the tread today. Love your post waggy and Molly an Satz for your advice and input. Lovely sunny afternoon here i'm to AA meeting at 3.30pm. REccie and tabbers i just antibuse last wednesday as a clast resort and my dr was quite happy to prescribe it to me. Its my 5th day on it and so far no side effects. Be worth thinking about as you can't think abou drinking on this as you get very ill and could end up in hospital so thats a deterant for me. AS i live alone i would hate to be ill and have to call a dr or ambulance. So far no cravings or desire to drink tho i had a 8 days af prior to taking it. I wish you both well with the tapering.

[mama bear]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

Morning from America....can't remember how Molly spelled it yesterday/
Molls - you posts were brilliant and have me very inspired. I have been doing alot of spiritual AA based reading. I don't agree with all of, but most of it grabs me.
Good to see you Tabbers, and always a hug for Mr Bear
Glad to know Mr JC is hungry
Hia, Satzy, Foxy, and Pingu
off to find some breakfast

[Siren136]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

satz123;1507644 wrote: Yup -it's PEACE I'm feeling now. Just pottering through.
My life is mundane - sure - but I like it like that.

Anything new or out of the ordinary these days upsets my PEACE and I have to re-set myself.
I've become very selfcentered - and self-sufficient ....... but I notice those around me rarely did bend over bckwards to faciliate me. I seem to be the one who went along with it all - so now I appear selfish.
Don't give a shit tbh.

Someone posted this the other day (Satz, might have been you??). Anyway, it seems appropriate here.

As I began to love myself, I freed myself of anything that is no good for my health?food, people, things, situations and everything that drew me down and away from myself. At first I called this attitude a healthy egoism, today, I know it is, ?LOVE OF ONESELF.?

~ Charlie Chaplin ~

[InChains]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

hello army, jeez you guys are on form today xD should make a book of all the really good stuff from this thread, might even do it as homework sometime. not sure who said what atm, should probably take notes but gonna throw in my comments anyway haha

re: happiness etc - I figure I'm actually the opposite of what ya'll talked about, I am easily made happy, and feel happiness very intensely and am very expressive of that - my problem is that I need a constant supply of thing to make me happy. No matter how great something is, give me a few hours or even minutes and I feel like I lose the buzz and fall into being unhappy and actually regret losing the happiness from earlier (the worst is the day after gigs, I feel terrible that it's over). I don't have much middle ground, there's happy or miserable for the most part.

Molly (I think) you mentioned self reliance, I had a lightbulb moment - I have been so determined to do this alone that I have refused to seek any kind of help, even on mwo I mostly post when drinking or secure in not drinking, when I'm at the point where I feel I might slip up, I don't post. Madness, really.

quick wave to ktab - good to have you back

and glad that mr.jc is recovering well

letting ya'll know i'm not gonna be around tonight, other halfs invited me over. been having a rough day, feeling anxious n panicky since I woke up. Not put in n af day since Wednesday, struggling alot with life and sobriety at the moments. can't seem to get there - and feel awful that I keep making all kinds of promises and the messing up within days.

[Recluse]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

Windermere Marathon reportage from whizzy:

"I won FV 60 and arsey did a PB. Tough++"

I think FV 60 means Female Veteran over 60 and PB means Personal Best. :yay::yay:

Many congratulatios to both our army marathon runners. Two really fantastic achievements!!!

[InChains]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

thats so awesome! congrats whizzy and arsey!

[InChains]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

I'm gonna agree with Reccie on boredom, but for me boredom is basically misery, I cannot stop doing things, I'm happiest when doing 2 or more things at once ie; film on whilst drawing and talking to people online (which can involve even more stuff to do if its a good chat xD)

n I don't really know how I'd go about chaging emotions etc... I've always lived in extremes

EDIT: looking at what you said about genetic causes of alcoholism etc, wondering Molly (and not an overly serious question here, genuinely curious) whether you would consider it likely that I would have the genes for addiction etc, coz I never considered it possible that it was genetic, but then I do have the hallmarks of getting into serious trouble with drinking within months of first getting drunk

[Recluse]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

Evening ladies

mollyka;1507748 wrote: One thing I 'disagree' with you on a bit Reccie - and funnily enough Joey and I talked about it today - I don't anymore necessarily equate boredom with lack of happiness - or maybe it's how we use the word boredom. My life could be described as boring - I don't DO a lot - but I'm very at peace with that now - whereas before I constantly craved 'non-boredom' and solved it with alcohol - it's just that now so much less contents me - ya know - the little things....... don't think it's age - more a bit of mindfulness really ---- just my opinion tho!!!

It maybe comes down to how we interpret the words boring and boredom molly. Some people might look at your life and think it's boring, others (myself included) might look at it and think it's anything but boring, but what matters is whether YOU are bored with it. If you craved non-boredom in the past, that to me suggests that you were bored back then. If you're at peace with your life now, I take that to mean that you're no longer bored. Your signature does say "contentedly sober", after all?

[Anjicia]

Army Thread Sunday May 19th

Evening all its been a beautiful sunny warm day may it last. Went to my AA meeting for 3.30 it was a small group but nice and the chairperson talk was very funny at times. Sorry to hear you are still struggling Inchy finding a happy medium is a key i think. I drank for any reason really boredom loniness depression to celebrate to drown my sorrows etc. Recovery is a long road and not easy but drinking makes things worse which i know yet still kept slipping. I need to work on when the complusion to drink gets strong and how not to keep caving in. AA meetings help and the antibuse. Its just exhausting this binge drinking and planning to get drink. I feel free of that now and long may it continue if i stick with my plan. Just chilling with tv now and will do some reading as well. Oh and well done to Whizzy and RC and their results in the marathon. Well done you two.:television::cheering: