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    #46
    Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

    EW... I'm really sorry you've lost Laura and the baby, house, job? everything... that is very very rough my friend. I would, indeed, consider being in a shelter to be your rock bottom. Are you ready to start doing the work it will take to get yourself out of the hole? Sorry to be so blunt but we know each other pretty well and I think you prefer to call a spade a spade. I'm here, actually all of us are here, if you need an ear... just a PM or a post away. Stay strong my dear. You can turn it around... I know you can. You've done it before and you can do it again and hopefully this will be the last time you'll need to get things back on track... you can make this one the time that "sticks". Perhaps some of these things you lost can be yours again if you stay the course? I very much hope so. :l XXX

    Pingu... Sorry you're having a hard time with your wrist and depression. Like Mollers, I am reluctant to post what I think but you are also one that likes to call a spade a spade so here goes. This post, like Mollers?, is said with love. Over the years, people on the thread have listened to you and reached out to you but you seem to have difficulty reciprocating. In the past you have mentioned that you don?t understand how to do the reaching out thing, so I?ll give you a ?for instance?. See when EW posted about being in a shelter? The appropriate post to follow his with would have been condolences for his situation, or concern, or SOMETHING! One doesn?t just ignore a post like that to talk about one?s wrist. I truly believe you don?t ?get? it? I don?t think you?re being deliberately unfeeling. How about instead of going off to hide, you keep posting and try posting back to people about their issues and problems? I think you?d be surprised how people warm up to you when you become interested in them and lend an ear. XXX

    Reccy? I can?t remember if you tried taking the Benadryl (diphenhydramine) to help you sleep? It?s over-the-counter and it?s non-addictive? it?s an anti-histamine. Give that a shot. I hate it when I don?t sleep (which is quite often lol) and it derails sober time for a lot of peeps, so I hope you?ll try the diphenhydramine. There?s supplements you can take also? if you?re interested I?ll give you a list. I?d try anything and everything? ?cos, like I said, lack of sleep sends a lot of people running back to the grog and we don?t want that now do we!!! XXX

    Jacks? Is Sir ?Pee? home? And how is your arm? (She fell over this morning but didn?t want to say anything as there is so much going on on the thread? silly mare!) Make sure to look after yourself as well as Sir P? :l

    Satz? I agree with Tipps? let out a ?silent but deadly? one on the place, and GLARE at Noseyhole in disgust!!!

    Your picnic sounds luvverly Mollers.

    Hiya Siren and Whizzy! :wavin:

    I?m still in me jammies. I?m going to go and get showered and get my depressed arse out of the house for a bit. It?s only a trip to Walmart and Home Depot but it gets me up and at ?em. I never see those crazy dressed wans when I go to Walmart? I must be shopping at the wrong store. Got some grub down earlier and feeling not too bad for the crap night's sleep.

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      #47
      Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

      Good god does anyone else want a go at me while I'm still sober?

      FFs, I give to this place when I have time and energy. Right now I don't. I only feel confident talking to the people I know. Forgive me for that. There's a social awkwardness in me, much like my son

      If you really think I am selfish then maybe you should get to know me a bit more. I give so much to people, very often with little in return. I'm loyal and a true friend and very close to the people I trust.

      I cannot believe the comments being left on here. I'm sorry to have to say but it's really hurtful. Especially right now.

      I thought you were my friends. Clearly I made a huge mistake.

      Ew, I am personally so sorry that I never responded to your situation. I don't know you and I feel awkward saying something which might come out as cheesy or uncaring. So I leave the people who do know you to offer their help amd support

      I'm totally fucked up now so I'm going to dig very deep tonight and find the strength to fight another new day tomorrow

      I'll stop now as I'm sobbing and my kids have just come home and I have to be there for them

      Much love to everyone else who feels I ignore them

      P3
      I have a drink problem, I have been AF since 15 March 2011 and I am working hard to stay that way

      They don't call me Pingu Purple Pants for nothing....

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        #48
        Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

        Pingu... You are making it sound like we are ganging up on you and that is not the case. You're part of this thread, as much as myself or anyone else, and we don't want you to leave. Personally speaking... if I wanted you to leave Pingu, I wouldn't even bother taking the time to post or PM with you. Trust me... if I wanted you to go I would just ignore you too.

        I really am trying to help you understand. You've said that most people on the thread ignore you and I'm trying to explain why you feel that way. It's a two way street and they're feeling the same way you are! And it's so easily rectified for goodness sakes.

        Please read my last PM with an open mind. Don't jump all over me, it's not helping either of us. We're both depressed and both of us are in pain right now and I swear to God I really don't need this hassle just now. ( I am only trying to help so please don't berate me.

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          #49
          Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

          Oh well... that looks daft. That was in response to a post that Pingu deleted! lol

          Listen, Pingu, please re-read the PMs. Just give it a wee try... just for a couple of days... and see what happens. Don't go off and be angry... stay and post and reach out to others and have them reach out to you in return. That's the way it goes on a support forum.

          Honestly... I for one don't want you to leave. I really don't. I know you're mad as hell at me (clearly apparent from your PMs!!!) but once you calm down you'll maybe understand what I'm saying. :l

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            #50
            Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

            Shit, now I don't know if I should delete my posts?

            Fecks sakes...

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              #51
              Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

              Zenstyle;1509055 wrote: Shit, now I don't know if I should delete my posts?

              Fecks sakes...
              Please do not do that Zen. I am not much good on forums/internet but OK face to face. I really do appreciate your insights.

              I read your now deleted post Pingu and feel sorry you feel hurt but think the 2 posts to you were well meant,kind and thoughtful

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                #52
                Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

                Pingu... You deleted your post so I deleted my response. The bottom line is this... I don't want you to go off angry and not post, I want you to stay and reach out to others and have them reach out to you in return. And I'm not trying to be mean to you... I'm just trying to help. You wanted to know why you felt ignored and it is because others feel the same way, like you ignore them. It's a dead easy fix however.

                Now can we all just get along please. Both of us feel terrible just now Pingu, ironically we have the same damn issues at the moment, depression and pain. I was trying to make you laugh in the last PM but I swear... you ask me about mine and I'll ask you about yours and we'll both feel a lot better!!!

                Don't be mad.

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                  #53
                  Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

                  anon;1509056 wrote: Please do not do that Zen. I am not much good on forums/internet but OK face to face. I really do appreciate your insights.
                  Errrr....... :H :new:

                  Naw, if Pingu changed her mind and doesn't want it on the boards then I'll respect that.

                  OK, I think I better get out of the house for a bit. This hasn't done me any good and I wish I hadn't even opened my mouth. She's mad as hell at me. :upset:

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                    #54
                    Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

                    I just have to weigh in for myself that I tend to be similar - I tend to not respond if I don't know what to say or if I feel that I have no advice to give. Or if my thoughts seem to be unauthentic to my own ears.

                    It doesn't mean I don't care, just that I'm a bit socially awkward and uncomfortable with sharing my feelings. Calling this out makes it worse and, yeah, the instinct is to run away and lick my wounds for a bit.
                    Well it's all right now. I've learned my lesson well. You see you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself.

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                      #55
                      Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

                      Siren136;1509060 wrote: I just have to weigh in for myself that I tend to be similar - I tend to not respond if I don't know what to say or if I feel that I have no advice to give. Or if my thoughts seem to be unauthentic to my own ears.

                      It doesn't mean I don't care, just that I'm a bit socially awkward and uncomfortable with sharing my feelings. Calling this out makes it worse and, yeah, the instinct is to run away and lick my wounds for a bit.
                      I respect what you have to say Siren. And I can understand not being socially adept (I used to be painfully shy when I was much MUCH younger). Also, empty, unauthentic words are crap... I agree.

                      Really, what's happened is not just about that though. Pingu has been feeling ignored on the thread. And some people have been feeling as if she's ignoring them. And, you know, instead of that going on and being a constant thorn in people's sides... why not just resolve it? It's really really simple to fix. Everyone on this thread cares about each other, that is a fact. And when some people are upset because they feel as if others don't care about them then it's a darn shame. So I say... let's fix it instead of letting it continue to be an issue.

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                        #56
                        Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

                        EW: I am so deeply sorry for what has happened to you, I hope you can check in with us now and again, and wish you the best in getting your life back.

                        Pingu (if you're still reading): I haven't much to say, I'm hoping for the best with your wrist, and also hoping that you make the decision that is right for you.

                        Reccie: Sending support and positive vibes your way, you're doing so well, it's wonderful to see your progress these past few weeks. incidentally benadryl is nytol in england if you hadn't found out already - if you go to a decent chemist they'll say 'not for long term use' - its because of tolerance to it, not addiction if that helps.

                        Zen: Feel like some of what you said to pingu applies to me, at least lately. Just wanted to say I don't mean to be selfish if I ever come across like that - I simply look at those around me and realise I probably don't have much to offer given my age and habits.

                        JC: seconding the always brilliant molly - remember to look after yourself as well as mr.jc

                        I have probably missed god knows how many other important posts, so sending out general hugs and howdos to everybody who needs 'em

                        -inchy
                        I have faced it, a life wasted, and I am never going back there again

                        To ya'll my name is inchy. I am an alcoholic - and priority number one is making it to the end of this day AF. No excuses.

                        18.08.13

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                          #57
                          Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

                          No Moll, not made it worse by me, anyway. I was only speaking for myself in any event, as I saw how I would have reacted. Happy to let it die and hopefully everyone will hug it out.

                          Oh, and I hope to eventually be at one of these meet-ups so there
                          Well it's all right now. I've learned my lesson well. You see you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself.

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                            #58
                            Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

                            thanks molly, but I have a long way to go before i could lay claim to either of those things methinks. And given everything on thread today, gonna have to say not so bad really hope you're well too
                            I have faced it, a life wasted, and I am never going back there again

                            To ya'll my name is inchy. I am an alcoholic - and priority number one is making it to the end of this day AF. No excuses.

                            18.08.13

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                              #59
                              Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

                              InChains;1509065 wrote:
                              Zen: Feel like some of what you said to pingu applies to me, at least lately. Just wanted to say I don't mean to be selfish if I ever come across like that - I simply look at those around me and realise I probably don't have much to offer given my age and habits.
                              I said to Pingu in PM... ALL of us are like that sometimes. We get overwhelmed and have to use our resources keeping our own heads above the water. You don't come across as being selfish at all hon.

                              Pingu, if you're reading... Mollers is right... the thread is a bit like a family. And families sometimes have issues with each other. So it's out in the open now and I'm sure your feelings are hurt. Some other people's feelings are hurt too (I'm not talking about myself by the way although I am feeling slightly beaten up in PMs lol). Maybe it's possible to take this as an "airing of people's feelings" and use it constructively?

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                                #60
                                Army Thread Wednesday 22nd May

                                Siren136;1509077 wrote: Happy to let it die and hopefully everyone will hug it out.
                                Hear Hear!!!

                                100% agree with this!

                                I must get some fresh air. I'm off to see if I can find a weird wan at Walmart...

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