Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

yo satz :waving: and molls :waving: and cindi :waving:

me arms are sore now! :H

sometimes our reltionship with AL doesn't need a specific factor early on in our lives.
i wis lucky - i had/have a very loving family, healed background etc etc.
yes there was some stuff that happened in my teens which i is working on...
BUT it's dead easy to say " Ooooh THAT was the reason I am how I am!"
That's too simple.
and it can displace our own need to take responsibility for our lives.
ACTUALLY NOT having a "reason" may make it easier to take responsibility? Maybe?
Some early morning thoughts for yis

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

PS Skiverville is OPEN

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

mollyka;1527135 wrote: Yep arsey - I agree bout 'reasons' - much easier to own it all ourselves IMO - funny tho - I've a sister who behaves alcoholically - she just doesn't actually drink an awful lot - mmmmmm

How interesting. What is it bout her behaviour that is alkie-like?

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

mollyka;1527139 wrote: Everything really - well - irrational behaviour - obsessiveness - strange relationships - ya know blowing hot and cold - let's people down a lot - mad career path - forwards backwards - secretive - dishonest really - happy happy on the outside - seething inside - ALWAYS conscious of grog - counts drinks - overcompensates the next day - LOADS more ... Hard to pick it unless u know the characteristics urself really.....

:egad: sounds like me some days...

Aw noooo... :no:

[Wagoneer]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

Good Morning All!

Don't have time this morning to catch up - got in from San Francisco last night and am a bit jet lagged this morning! The weddng was amazing and such a lovely time with family! The reception was great - wine and drinks were everywhere, but I was absolutaley cool with my club soda and lime. Had a wonderful time talking and dancing till way past midnight. Ate way too much food that was not on my diet, so feeling abit sluggish.

Off to get ready for work - hope all is well!

Waggy

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

mollyka;1527143 wrote: Haha! It's all those and more - very bad decision making - whirling round Kerry one year in the car - drunk - at 3am cos she had (another ) fight with a friend - always falling out with people - -----

Well maybe i'm not that bad. When i wis 24 maybe, but not 34! And i dont fall out with people - hardly ever. Hate confrontation me (unless it's peeps who robbed our whizzy :boxer

Morning Waggy :hallo:

[satz123]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

RunningCourage;1527133 wrote: yo satz :waving: and molls :waving: and cindi :waving:

me arms are sore now! :H

sometimes our reltionship with AL doesn't need a specific factor early on in our lives.
i wis lucky - i had/have a very loving family, healed background etc etc.
yes there was some stuff that happened in my teens which i is working on...
BUT it's dead easy to say " Ooooh THAT was the reason I am how I am!"
That's too simple.
and it can displace our own need to take responsibility for our lives.
ACTUALLY NOT having a "reason" may make it easier to take responsibility? Maybe?
Some early morning thoughts for yis

AGREE TOTALLY -
One of the reasons I will not enter into deep discussion of MY issues with DD or is that I will not let her use MY issues as an excuse for when she over drinks at the weekend.
I've already had hints that "oh I have to watch what I drink with it being in the 'family' "- I did not buy into that conversation.
She needs to own her own 'shit' and not be looking for an excuse in me
I KNOW her MO believe me !

[satz123]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

mollyka;1527130 wrote: No alkies in my lot either - yeah not mother of the year me either - the 8 week return would have me in a lather!!
Main changes are re Joey - think mebbe Simons anger was that HE wa sorting him out an we are just spoiling the wee cuckoo in the nest - so handing up money etc is goin to b instigated for starters!

Oh Gawd - good luck with that .
Used to be murder in our house over that with DD

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

satz123;1527156 wrote: AGREE TOTALLY -
One of the reasons I will not enter into deep discussion of MY issues with DD or is that I will not let her use MY issues as an excuse for when she over drinks at the weekend.
I've already had hints that "oh I have to watch what I drink with it being in the 'family' "- I did not buy into that conversation.
She needs to own her own 'shit' and not be looking for an excuse in me
I KNOW her MO believe me !

Agree totally with you here Doc.
I think there is something about our brains that wants to categorise any (even jokingly) issue we may or may not have . Your DD's weekly weekend drinking may be 'normal' (ignoring the "what is normal" debate here!) and pass in due course... or it may be something more serious.
We are conditioned by our community: if she drinks the same way and as much as (approximately) to her friends etc, then they will all see this as normal. Or at the very least acceptable.
It doesn't make it 'right' necessarily. (or wrong either).
You're right not to engage her in that conversation - she totally has to own her actions. It's bollocks when peeps say it's in their genes. Whatever is in our genes is not a "get outof jail free card". Period.


End of epistle.

PS - what's the MO stand for?

[Recluse]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

Morning army!

sorry about the problems with your mum zenny. It's a disappointing way to end what otherwise seems to have been a good visit. Safe journey home (I think you said you were going to visit some rellies in Glasgow first?).

Welcome home whizzy. Sorry about your problems in the airport. And about your daughter coming home...I'm guessing that's not good news? At least you seem to have had a good time away up until Sunday.

Molly...shame about the row, but it's good that you managed to talk things through with Joe this morning.

Hope you can get your neck and shoulders sorted out peapants.

satz123;1527127 wrote: Was in my mother's last Sunday and still hearing 'stuff'
- babies 'out of wedlock' sent off for adoption back in the 50's never to be seen again.
Cousins finding out their aunt was actually their mother :egad:
Jesus - it's scary ...... at least most things are usually out in the open these days .

Oh Gawd satzy...we had exactly the same sort of "stuff" happening on my father's side of the family. Babies born out of wedlock and being sent off for adoption, uncles and aunts turning out to be grandparents etc. It's very disturbing.

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

Speaking of comparisons, doing some reading - loosely around my job, though not directly... but while the cat's away... Anyway, it's fecking obivious but when an eminent thinker spouts it...well... also, it backs up gratitude too:

the stability of social networks outside work, a sense of being trusted by, and able to trust, one's work collegaues, a sense of belonging, a sense of mastery of skill, are all important to human happiness nd are less common now than they weere before. The secret to happiness, known to every CBT therapist, never mind the generations of the spiritually wise, is to appreciate and be grateful for what one has, not constantly comparing oneself and what one has with other people, or some imagined ideal. Yet our society is founded precisely on propagating this unhealthily comparative attitude of mind

I post it cos it's stuff i need to continue to work on

[RunningCourage]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

Feck. Yer daddy was a genius! :H

[Zenstyle]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

Hiya folksies,

Haven't had a squizz back as I've been busy packing, going to the lawyer, filling the car etc... Will get a chance at the airport if they have wi-fi here! :wow:

Things much calmer Chez Zenmum... I guess she just needed to let some steam off. She's apologized and I'm letting it go... life's too short to waste my time mulling over crap like this, even if my wee feelings were quite hurt. (

Anyway, going to have a bite of lunch now then head to the airport. I'm getting into Glasgow at 4.35 and can't wait to see the kids! It's been 6 years since I saw them last. I didn't buy them presents as Gawd only knows what they'll be wanting now but they'll prolly like the cash better anyway.

And, on my last day, the weather is feckin terrible... raining cats and dogs. Gah!

I just heard me uncle coming in downstairs to orf I go. Will check in later if I get a chance! X

[satz123]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

RunningCourage;1527176 wrote: Speaking of comparisons, doing some reading - loosely around my job, though not directly... but while the cat's away... Anyway, it's fecking obivious but when an eminent thinker spouts it...well... also, it backs up gratitude too:

the stability of social networks outside work, a sense of being trusted by, and able to trust, one's work collegaues, a sense of belonging, a sense of mastery of skill, are all important to human happiness nd are less common now than they weere before. The secret to happiness, known to every CBT therapist, never mind the generations of the spiritually wise, is to appreciate and be grateful for what one has, not constantly comparing oneself and what one has with other people, or some imagined ideal. Yet our society is founded precisely on propagating this unhealthily comparative attitude of mind

I post it cos it's stuff i need to continue to work on

EXACTLY !
I am on this bandwagon for a while now - gained from me spiritual bukes -great to see it here !!!!:goodjob:
And :goodjob: Daddy Molls - that a few quotes from him in the last week or two. Was a wise one ok !

[satz123]

Army Thread Tuesday 2nd July

Zenstyle;1527187 wrote: Hiya folksies,

Haven't had a squizz back as I've been busy packing, going to the lawyer, filling the car etc... Will get a chance at the airport if they have wi-fi here! :wow:

Things much calmer Chez Zenmum... I guess she just needed to let some steam off. She's apologized and I'm letting it go... life's too short to waste my time mulling over crap like this, even if my wee feelings were quite hurt. (

Anyway, going to have a bite of lunch now then head to the airport. I'm getting into Glasgow at 4.35 and can't wait to see the kids! It's been 6 years since I saw them last. I didn't buy them presents as Gawd only knows what they'll be wanting now but they'll prolly like the cash better anyway.

And, on my last day, the weather is feckin terrible... raining cats and dogs. Gah!

I just heard me uncle coming in downstairs to orf I go. Will check in later if I get a chance! X

BON VOYAGE ZENNERS !!!
:flyingunders::flyingunders::flyingunders: