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    Re: herbs and liver function?

    Ivy,
    You can post on the questions for Dr Garcia board. She isn't available at times, so it may take a bit to get a reply.

    Hope the rest of your Saturday went well!
    Marcie

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      herbs and liver function

      Marcie,

      Thanks. I'll try Dr.Garcia.

      How is everyone doing this weekend? Drinkwise?

      I had two wines yesterday. It really relaxes me. I spoke to a friend who is in AA. She was drinking at a rate of two bottles of gin a day. She is sober 16 months this time. She had once been sober ten years. But anyway, listen to what she said. "Real alcoholics don't have cravings for alcohol. They laugh at that idea. They know they drink because it is the handy thing to ease their emotional pain."

      Any comments on this?

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        Re: herbs and liver function

        Ivy,
        I'm on day 21 of abs. Feeling pretty good. I'd recommed you start a new thread and post your comments from your AA friend there. This thread is getting kind of long and you might not get the same response.

        Marcie

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          Gee,
          I forget the thread here. Anyway, I'm drinking more than I've ever drank in my life. Sorry to report that
          I think I started like this when I found this site. I had one drunken evening with a friend a month ago where there was kind of a blackout argument and I thought, Gee, I need to stop this. and here I am drinking mass quantities of alcohol and I did not do this before. I drank a few per day, but now I'm at several drinks per day and yes, my sides ache too after drinking that much. I get irritated and I wake up only after falling asleep for a couple of hours, then can't get back to sleep.
          BUT on a positive note - My Topa is apparently in the mail so I should not complain and I should really come back when I get that.
          Otherwise - I am not depressed, or anything like that. Just drunk more than I think I should be and I can not receive the "OK" from anyone here because that just makes me think that it really is "OK" and I'll drink more.
          I may have selected the wrong thread for my comments here but if you knew me, you'd be stunned that I am capable of actually putting away the volume of alcohol that I have been absorbing for the past few months.

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            Great job!
            Cheers
            Kiwidwnunder

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              Re: herbs and liver function

              that last reply was "intereresting" Cblossoms pleaase be careful.

              Ivy post a brand new post about your AA friend and the cravings thing.

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                Hi. Been reading this thread - heaps of postings! I am on Day 6 of abstaining - self imposed as I have ordered the book and supplies but in Oz and they will take a while to get here. Since I signed up last Friday (it's now Wednesday) I haven't had a drink. I decided if I'm going to start it I might as well get going with it. Have been doing well, going to the gym most nights during my normal witching hour after work, and haven't even really had cravings. Look twice each time I drive past the bottlo and wonder why at the supermarket my feet seem to want to keep walking toward the liquor end of the store, but apart from that I feel that I'm doing well. Can't wait for the book cd's and supps so I can really get into it. I am going away this weekend and think I might like a wine with dinner but want to restrict it to just one, really good red. Do you think that's a silly thing to do? I do want to go on the moderation plan rather than abstaining but I am prepared to do the month to start with. Guess I thought I might cheat a bit before the supps arrive. I am not doing the meds - keeping to the natural stuff. Some of your stories are amazing - the success is wonderful. For those who are struggling - hang in there - we are all capable of succeeding.

                Sheryl

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                  What all are you doing? Are you on the meds or just the vitamins and plan? Do you feel like drinking?

                  I just bought the book, the tapes-kinda weird-, the vitamins and I may take the meds.

                  Take care,
                  andrea

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                    Hello,
                    You all sound like you are making so much progress! I got the sups, topa & hypno tapes about 3 weeks ago. I am now up to about 75 mg on the Topa but not every day. I find the hypno tapes so boring and I normally fall asleep. I thought I was making progress but I am still having at least 3 glasses of wine a night. I have a stressful job; I manage millions of $ for investors and wine seems so comforting in PM.....plus I have a teenage daughter! Mainly, I want to lose about 20 lbs. Iwas always so thin and I hate this tummy. How long has it taken you all to get on board with the program and what is the most important part? i had so much hope for an immediate cure but ,alas, it is not so.
                    Thanks for any insight you can provide.

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                      Irish

                      Hi Irish, I would be very proud of myself if I did only three glasses every night but if you desire to cut back more then I guess that is not a good thing. Is that cutting back from your usual? I think a big part of it as well is finding another routine to get into at night instead of going straight for the wine. Easier said than done I know. Good luck.

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                        I had been doing ok -- then I really just lost it last evening. I had many many wines and many beers. I believe I had a drag of a cigarette. :eek It was awful. I am trying to get my self "righted" today. Just did clearing CD and dumped out a 3/4 full bottle of lovely red. Hoping to report back here next week that I had no drinks.

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                          Try not to give yourself a hard time. ( but that's easier said than done I know) Can understand the dumping of red wine! It looks great but not really - it doesn't solve anything eh?! You have been doing fine thats sooo good. Hold onto that and move on! lots of love

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                            Any words of encouragement are helpful.....

                            I'm the wife of an up and coming alcoholic and just need some ideas on how to approach him on how to perhaps moderate his drinking habits.
                            A week or so ago, after a heavy-duty night of drinking and another episode of losing his bladder while sleeping (3 or 4 times in the past 6 months or so), he admitted to me he needs my help to stop this. Of course, when sober, or not in that particularly horrific situation, and in the light of day, so to speak, he now says he neither needs nor wants my help.
                            We're married 7 years, together 9. I have two teenage daughters from my first marriage and overall homelife is pretty smooth. My daughters can tend to be lazy and he can get pretty pissed about that, but we all talk, work things out and for a while, like typical teenagers, it's all good, then they fall back into the lazy routine again. This is a minor glitch, and not really much of a concern. My concern is that he uses their perceived lack of following the rules as an excuse to drink more, and therefore to calm his nerves over how much grief he's suffering at their insolence. My daughters are always home, are responsible with their time and are respectful of both me and hubby, except for what I view as typical teenage laziness. When he's right, and their laziness becomes a glaring issue in regard to messy rooms, pet cages, etc., then I back him all the way.
                            He chooses friends who all drink to excess, is borne of alcoholic parents (both recovered, and sober for 20+ years) and many, if not most, of his family are alcoholics. He's in denial over his alcohol usage, has an unrealistic 'count' of just how many beers he's consumed (although he's becoming more honest since it's been proven time and time again just how much he has consumed), has lost his licence for impaired, has, as mentioned above, lost his bladder in bed while passed out a number of times, and once, on a memorable vacation, got so tanked that he urinated all over himself in public, carried on to the point he was almost arrested in a train/subway terminal and awoke the following day to remembering nothing of what happened. I taped that incident and watched, as he watched, horrified at what he'd done. Still, the alcohol consumption continues to increase and the tolerance for it continues to decrease. I sincerely don't know what to do, how to approach him and how to make him understand that this is threatening our marriage. We always just end up fighting, with no real resolution. I love this man, with all of my heart but I don't know how to deal with him. There is generally more 'good' than 'bad' in our relationship, we have a real, honest-to-goodness click, that special quality that can and should make for a great marriage, but is being marred by this problem. He's a classic textbook alcoholic. I've sent e-mails to him, trying to make him understand how I feel, what I love about us and what I don't want to lose. He deletes them as soon as he sees more than one or two lines of text and especially when he sees the words 'drinking' or 'alcohol(ic)'. Any ideas on how to proceed, on how to make him wake up and understand what his drinking is doing?

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                              LesDave, I wish I could get my Hubby to post a response here for you. Because, I know, I've put him thru, very close to the same situation as it sounds like you're in, with your Hubby. Just a bit of a "role reversal".
                              What I can say is... Untill your Hubby is ready to make some changes, himself, .... No amount of hoping, encouraging, cheering him on, whatever, is gonna do a DAMN thing for him.
                              It's something HE HAS TO DECIDE FOR HIMSELF and then stick with it, with all he's got.... MAJOR DETERMINATION!
                              The topamax, has made a huge difference in my life, as have these boards and all of the wonderful people & support here.
                              Best thing I've ever found. In fact like I mentioned on another post... and I mean this seriously... it's the best thing I've found , since SEX, CHOCOLATE, & ALCOHOL!!

                              And thanks to this program, I can now enjoy all of the above!!:b
                              Best of luck to you. Hugs, Judie

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                                Hi

                                I have decided to go on abstinence for 30 days. I am on day 7 now. I then intend to do the hypno and supps of melatonin and kudzu. I do not want to do the meds. Everything is OK at the moment apart from sleeping. My wife is having to get out of bed in the middl of the night and go in th eother room to sleep as I am so fidgety. But she does not mind as long as i stop drinking. good luck.

                                kirky

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