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Re: Being 60

ok - I'm hushin'.

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Hi Ladies,

Well this eve I certainly do not feel 40. I am actually turning 60 in October. Rt now I am waiting for my husband to get dressed ..we are going out to dinner ..Spain 92 restaurant .. to commemorate our 30th wedding anniversary..he is late because he fell asleep in front of tv..hah...We went to Spain on our honeymoon..

Anyway-- thing is -- right now I hate this program & hate topamax & I am in mods forum this month & cannot post this there. Topa makes me very very tired -- I am struggling again with it --round 2 -- I will probaly have to go abs at some point -- I am depressed & annoyed & downright pissed..I don't need anything that makes me tired at 60 -- I am already tired enough

And to tell the real truth -- the reason (edit - one reason) I do not want to give up wine completely is because of pain -- muscle pain, backache, some osteo ...I am sick of pain -- I have had my share believe me(physcial, emotional..you got it) ... so I am pissed at RJ (NOT REALLY __ YOU GET IT RIGHT) that the topamax thing went so smoothly for her .. And I am pissed at all these young things on the board (NOT REALLY) with this boundless freakin.. energy....

Sh--t -- !!but instead of rationalizing the experiment away -- I will keep trying through the month -- And don't give me that rah-rah -- you can do it b..ll.sh--t- Chrysa !!!! ...:lol

I bought a whole bunch new supps -- Gaba, etc, 5htp, I will continue the experiment -- but at the moment -- oh -oh -- the ol man is ready -- Well he looks good anyway..maybe he will be too sleepy to say soemthing totally insenstive this evening....

Any chance we can move this to general discussion -- or are do we want to be secret

And Tawney -- you are truly a wise soul -- u too dreamingE

later~luv~Chrysa

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Might be appropriate at this point to add some lyrics by KT Oslin from one of my favourite albums:

"We were the girls of the 50's
Stoned rock'n rollers in the 60's
And more than our names got changed
As the 70's slipped on by
Now we're 80's ladies
There ain't been much these ladies ain't tried.

We've been educated, we got liberated
And that's complicated matters with men
Oh we've said I do and we've signed I don't
And we've sworn we'd never do that again
Oh we've burned our bras and we've burned our dinners
And we've burned our candles at both ends
And we've got some children who look just like
The way we did back then.

Oh but we're all grown up now
All grown up
None of us can tell you quite how."

Tawny

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Re: Being 60

Sure I'd move this to General discussion......but how do I do that??

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Chrysa- I won't give you the rah rah b s right now. The truth is, life just plain sucks sometimes and today it sure sucks for you.
Please write again tomorrow.
Mary

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wow wow wow you guys -- here come the tears again...:c :d

Tawney -- OMG -- Just love that -- love that -- so appro-pro --- No rather -- so me-- so me -- so me-- so thank you --so much - soul sister--

This was a "hand of God" evening or "universe IS a friendly place" or whatever good & meaningful words work ...

So -- it is a trip looking back over 30 years, over one's whole life really, in a summer's eve..

Can't capture it in a post but these messages were a memorable part of it..

[[As for the program & pain -- tommorrow -- what can we do -- thanks for reminding me to write -- I will -- we will all try -- We are women.]]

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Not quite there yet; I just turned 50 last December, but I can relate to the tiredness and etc. Chrysa, I can relate so to what you wrote, and Tawny, just love the verse, I can relate to it ALL! I was precocious, and was a girl of the 50's:rollin , just a very YOUNG girl!! I just burned my training bra! I also get pissed off that RJ had such an easy time of it, where my road has seemingly been strewn with bumps and boulders!

Chrysa, if you're not taking all the supps, espec. lots of l-glut and kudzu, please try them, even the l-glut under the tongue. I'm about to try that! Also, I think that cutting back/stopping drinking makes you VERY TIRED for while. Alcohol is like putting such a sugar rush in your body, and it takes a while for your body to learn to function without it!!! Please don't dispair. Also, I have started taking Borage Oil instead of Primrose Oil for the higher concentration of GLA it provides. Even with the allone, I still take a lot of supps, and it has made a difference in the aches and pains too.

Hope that helps a bit. I didn't mean to write a lecture, actually, so I hope this wasn't annoying!:rolleyes I just meant to jump in and say that yes, sometimes I feel that being 50 is terrific, and sometimes, well, it just sucks! I'm alone, with my daughter going off to college in the fall of 2007, and sometimes I wonder just what I will do with myself! Yes, I can take a class or do this or that, but will I? I worry that I will instead be depressed and have an endless pity party for myself. I am ardently hoping that I will put the effort in now to make the time between now and then a period of growth so that I will become the woman I want to be.

You all are an inspiration! Here's to 60!

Hugs,
Kathy

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Hey Chrysa...Really sorry about the pain, I know it can be a nightmare. I've used MSM (bulk dissolved in water) and my knees stopped creaking, etc....It is great at helping detox the body to relieve arthritis pain, etc, which many doctors and scientist think are the results of acid crystal accumulations in the joints, etc. Many folks have had great relief even though I know we are already taking so much!!

I'm putting a link here to one of the information sites for you.

www.thenutritionreporter...._DMSO.html
:d

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Thanks guys...Kath -- I agree about the supps --bought a whole new batch & plan to add that in this week -- I hate taking pills so much though & have been avoiding it -- I gag from swallowing. The tiredness is not due to reduction in alcohol because in fact overall I have not reduced much this week. Lesson -- 25 mg topa ineffective for craving + need to take more supps. And whatever else I am avoiding...:

cv-I will try MSM whatever that is -- at least it is a drink not a pill. Thanks . I have often thought wish there was a "Ask CV Board". How would you feel about that?

Trying to evaluate this week & lessons learned.

Need to rest my sore back today that's for sure. But feel lazy in a quilty way. Oh well.

Rx for being alone too much -- that's a toughie - huh Kath? Church communities can be great because they are often warmer & more intimate that other types. I am not recommending church per se, or religion etc -- just the idea of being involved in community & community type projects & other's peoples daily lives -- you know- other than us pathetic little broads on the boards :rollin Just a thought.

Mmmm -- well now that we are in General D.. guess I can't complain about how much energy the youngin's have -- poop--

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Funny

Just got this in personal email...

PERKS OF BEING OVER 50
If you are not over 50, this is what you have to look forward to.


1. Kidnappers are not very interested in you.

2. In a hostage situation you are likely to be released first.

3. No one expects you to run--anywhere.

4. People call at 9 pm and ask, " Did I wake you ???? "

5. People no longer view you as a hypochondriac.

6. There is nothing left to learn the hard way.

7. Things you buy now won't wear out.

8. You can eat dinner at 4 pm.

9. You can live without sex but not your glasses.

10. You get into heated arguments about pension plans.

11. You no longer think of speed limits as challenge.

12. You quit trying to hold your stomach in no matter who walks into the room.

13. You sing along with elevator music.

14. Your eyes won't get much worse.

15. Your investment in health insurance is finally beginning to pay off.

16. Your joints are more accurate meteorologists than the national weather service.

17. Your secrets are safe with your friends because they can't remember them either.

18. Your supply of brain cells is finally down to manageable size.

19. You can't remember who sent you this list.

And you notice these are all in Big Print for your convenience.
Also, forward this to everyone you can remember.

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Re: Funny

I'll be 58 on July 12. That's Wednesday, right? You all make me feel great. I mean, more than great. You make me feel historic. Here we are. Survivors of an era. It's too bad Helen Reddy turned out to be such a nut.

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Re: Funny

Damn, now Sohpie's disappeared!

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Easy? Yikes, not exactly how I'd describe it, I guess, and certainly this discussion lends support to our moving the board over to one in which past messages--mine included--can be retrieved more effectively. Over the past 18 or so months I've shared my experience about the craving sneaking back, slipping a bit, adjusting meds, supps, etc., and my bout with short term depression after doing so well. And like you all, I haven't necessarily found getting on that dreadmill or listening to hypno terribly easy some days, but I've come to understand it's simply not an option if I want to stay healthy--I just never want to go back to that place. (I have been asked about my experience repeatedly, both publicly and privately, but I really want this board to be more about everyone else's.)

As I say in the FAQ, this program *won't* be easy every day, nor will it make all your problems go away, but it will provide you with the tools to reduce or eliminate alcohol consumption in your life.

I agree with a member who posted recently advising a new visitor that this journey is more challenging for some than others. We're doing what we can to present as much info about MWO as it evolves (e.g. "Important Program Updates" on the My Way Out website) to help make it as effective as possible for everyone.

So hopefully, a new interface will be helpful in making sense of all the information that is/has been here. At the same time, we're setting up a MWO blog, which will be linked from the message board. That's where I'll post (with greater frequency, and I'm really excited about sharing regular tips, research, resources, etc. in a more organized fashion.) We're also pretty pumped about a new online tool much like Moderation Management's "Abstar" for those of you who are moderating. This was suggested to me by members, and I think it's a fabulous idea. It'll allow you to chart and post your number of drinks per day online if you wish. It's currently under development; more about this later.

Love this thread--the song, poem, honesty and humor. (I think it's important, too, it's why I moved it to the general discussion area.) Re: 60: am reminded of my very favorite women's magazine called "MORE" that celebrates those of us in our 40s, 50s, 60's...It's online here. You'll absolutely connect with the bright, beautiful and inspiring women in the pages of this mag. I look forward to it every month.

So here's to challenging frustration into action. And keeping track of stuff. :-)

RJ

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RJ, I got really frustrated with More when they ran and article entitled "Don't Call me a Baby Boomer," likening the term "baby boomer" to--I don't know--Rosie the Riveter or something. I was sort of insulted. On the other hand, I have been really inspired by beautiful Jamie Lee Curtis. She has been at the back of my mind for a couple of years, ever since she said that giving up drinking was the hardest thing she had done. I was thinking of her hanging off of that helicopter! Giving up drinking was harder than that? I guess More made me feel as though fifty was getting a little old for their readership. I subscribed, but I let my subscription lapse. I love this thread because, yes, I will be 58 in two days, and I don't know what I'm supposed to look like or be like. The most flattering thing I've heard lately is that my students keep comparing me to Diane Keaton, which makes me feel great, but I still want to know how someone is supposed to be at 60 without looking like she is trying to be younger.

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Add me to the "nearly there" list. November next year is my BIG 60 and I too am amazed that I have reached the age I have, given what I have put my poor body through in the last 30 years.
Maires