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[morrison]

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Everybody here is great. I love you all. Sorry I'm being bad Luv. You know I don't want to be.

[magic]

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Kittens!

Lets lighten up this space a bit shall we?

Dora, my manx, had her planned litter today by c section. Four kittens, all alive and well

One with a whole tail, one with 1/4 straight tail, one with a curly Q tail and one with no tail.

They are beautiful!

One son videotaped the births and another son took still pictures.

They are still at the vets to make sure mom has enough milk and "mothers" them. The vet is going to check on them through the night.

We have lost so many souls in this house lately it's nice to bring some new life into it.

m. xx :welcome:

[lucky 2.0]

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bird!!! ronald is a veggie??? he must not be able to sleep @ night

[bootcampbarbie]

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oh morrison, i'm so sorry, i wondered where you had gone. so so sorry, honey. i'm of no use i'm afraid. wiped out from working so fricking much. i do have more energy. i think it is the supplements. god love bear and his new avatar is scaring me. but not as much as 12 manys utube thing. frick i go there every now and then to scare myself. nibs i am so happy to see you post. just love you girl. i know bird we just don't have that barbie bounce like we used to do we. as 12 many i hope you are feeling better today. glad to chat with you last nite. hopefully good nites rest and you and morr will be back to better again. no time at all. luv bug i do so want you to have a happy weekend filled with manicures and pedicures. ah and i want mama to not be depressed.

i'd like to say i'm in great shape but the truth is i'm not. this echome thread post thing has me upset but not at all why you think. i couldn't care less what folks think of me in that regard. diss the bootsie all you want peeps. i think because i've dealt with perpetrators for a long time. i've seen the kinds of aftermath they leave and how they weave in the innocent. so tragic really, and the counceling i've done with so many women and some men, but most battering physical and emotional tragically happens to women. you see them come in sometimes just their face is ever so off, or their neck in a scarf, maybe they can't hold your gaze, because of so many even a few months or some years of emotional abuse they have no self esteem, you go to brush your hair, and they flench,. you know the signs, or say they come in and they are so disfigured of so many doctors as they have no money trying to patch up their body as they have had multiple contusions and multiple laserations everywhere. burn marks, broken nose, eyes discontorted, just even the subtle broken pieces of their soul through their eyes that you see going away glimer by glimer by glimer. that is what truly breaks your heart. you get the drift. they walk with a limp. they are now substance abusers themselves as they have to numb out it is inevitable to fight off the pain. they have to compartmentalize. i know few of them that are abused that are not some kind of alcoholics or users. so those threads he's posted just reminded me so much of them. those people that have no one to go to. then i'm getting so much calls to me. and funny enough now it happens in the universe that it is not just pm or phone calls from folks from here but now people in life. so that whole thing comes back. as in counseling. it makes my heart hurt. it is so odd to me that people on this site want to just hear what this guy gives them like he's telling the truth (batterer's abusers don't tell the truth rule #1, they tell you what you need to hear to suck you in) but we all know as alcoholics we have all lied about our drinking to everyone. does anyone honestly think a perpetrator would come on the site and tell the truth? do you think he would say all of what has happened? no, he'll tell you what he wants you to hear to feel sorry for him so you'll give him a chance. do you think if he said hey i've hit and abused my wife in many ways 2 years, day in day out. would anyone respond? no. my challange is i've seen the other side, when the other side is in so many ways next to sunday and then in some cases i have to identify them in the morgue. and i have to find the kids shelter in protective custody or next of kin. well, echo read this to. as it is public. the odds of recovery for a perpetrator is the same as sex offender 2%. that's right that is is why sex offenders have to register because their chance of recovery is so slim. sex offenders have good lobbiers. unfortunately there aren't good lobbiers for wife or spouse abusers otherwise you'd have to identify yourselves aswell. humm. so had to vent. so, i could cry to nite as i listen to these folks tell me some stories these days as i go back to my counseling days and i think wow, that is why i have left that world as this still continues and no one really talks about it, so much naivety. you have a perpetrator right here on this site and look he gets away with it. makes me vomit. and, i who have more clinical time in with these sorts than any get beat up for my insite. makes me so sad. anyway, i am sure i could gain a stalker out of this but echo if you read this no this. you have no idea my background. if you want it pm bear. as my people are some bad ass peeps. my husband is really protective and he said i should leave this site now as he fears for my safety as i've called you out. and i said honey i don't think so as i was married to certain elements before you. and i have lots of friends in not so attractive places. not sure if that makes sense. but in some way sure it does. bootsie travels in alot of places. lmao. i mean honestly could you really have worked in a battered shelter if you were always in beverly hills? ahahah think not. and well if you've been riding motorcycles since you were 8 i think it goes without saying enough said. so to close family. i shouldn't have entered at all into that conversation as it probably put me at risk but i had to. i have enough friends in many places that should he come after me in any way it would be a really bad move on his part. really bad move. just ask bear he knows my very very crazy days. and i'm just sad because i've seen what perpetrators do to women. sure they don't go on t.v. but i know what happens everyday behind close doors. and it saddens me that we would allow such tolerance. the first thing a perpetrator does is say i'm so sorry. well it is actually okay that an alcoholic does that. i mean hey if he drinks tomorrow whatever. but the thing a mentally ill guy or gal is going to do tomorrow morning is that he may endanger another person or his/her child and they will do that over and over again. and that is not what this site is about. and they will do that sober or drunk and as of yet. like sex offender. there is no cure. thanks for listening cuz my heart is breaking like huge and i can't stop the tears from flooding cuz since that man came on the website people have been coming to me from everywhere out of the blue for help and i haven't done that healing help/counseling for along time somehow that opened something i didn't want to ever see again. ever. i too wanted to tuck it away for fucking ever. morrison let god give you a purpose bigger than yourself through service. and sometimes it happens because you are pissed. that just came to me. by the way it doesn't happen while you are drunk. lol as i slobber.

well, nice little bedtime bootsie ramble. i haven't ever been so bold as in heart space. but i am passionate as in my heart is in wide open and deep. i'm drinking that silly white tea and feeling sad but happy that i can help some peeps.

magic you just made me laugh really hardd. let it be said right here right now if that man goes back and does something really bad to his family it is not on my watch at all. enuf said. i've done all i can do to educate you guys. you can go now and support him at will.
cracking up magic. some people will support an axe murderer and you know fuck there is nothing you can do about it. well. there are those that think oj is and phil spector is innocent

[bootcampbarbie]

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topamax last dose is about taking over so stupid is about up and really magic you are cracking me up. what was that movie cuz topa stupid is up...... you know the guy from tool shed comes in.. sling blade........ hahahhahahahhahahahahhahah
i remember telling one of the gals sorry i digress for one moment and then i move on from pathetic sick bastard that she was safe with me. i said look said sick bastard will wait cuz i called him out. and he will wait til he gainedd..... enufffffff sympathy for enuf days mayby many then he will come in like bees to honey then they will all come back in again and again and again and again til they are done. well until they finally get they are now peple they weren't in abusive relationships but now are. but hey you were a victim waiting to happen welcome to the big world.
bootsie is so in the big world with vultures.. i can spot a mile a way. lol oh my god. we have to have us a private sanction sometime just for us all so we can expose our past.
then it will be a crazy time. lol. anyway. magic. i want photos. and i love you all. i'm outta here for the nite check in tomorrow and then hopefully some monday. luv ya a ton family.
thanks magic for having my back. that's what i like about family. i knew someone from here like you and 12 would have my back.
he does not bellong here. perpetrator. stalker all the way. i'm actually scared for myself now and my family. i'm going to take my stuff off the gallery

[magic]

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Good night Boots.

m. xxx :huggy

[bootcampbarbie]

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all good i contacted rj. thanks again for having my back. you know you always wonder who will and then you know who will. there you go...it's mama. let me know how baby's are. and bear let me know how know how you are

[bootcampbarbie]

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by the way i hate topa. i meant to say let me know how you are. frick

[John35]

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raising hand

Hey I'm in, I beginning my third day, and I think we can do this together.

[bootcampbarbie]

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okay topa last stupid wore off i swear i go on these topa writing frinzingies as you know lmao hahahahah

[Guest]

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I leave for one night and what happens? My Bootsie got beat up? WHERE are they? Just where are they? I crashed at 7:30 last night. Has been the week from hell and I needed rest! Finally got some. I feel good this morning...YEAH

[Guest]

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Welcome John35!!!! Jump on in!

[12many]

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Just checking. not a drop last night. Woke up feeling great. Not going to drive to work (1 hr through murderous traffic) becasue of the librium. The librium is really different from a booze buz, it just adds a little dingy around the edge. For all I know I'm topa-typing even though in in the campral camp.

Last time I went cold turkey without the librium I had the longest night I can remember and the next day wasn't much better. And usually I'm fine during the day where cravings are concerned - just have whatever degree of hangover I earned and the associated low self esteem and anxiety. Guess what happened that night? My 1 day AF was over.

So, I heard some positive things on mwo about the librium and this time I'm doing it. And what a difference. I don't feel like a junky, just getting the boost I need.

So anyway, haven't felt this good in weeks. Think I'll find something productive to do... just maybe not the NY times crossword or juggling knives.

Cheers,
Dave

[12many]

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Welcome aboard John35!! You've found the greatest place. Congratulations on your AF days. Keep coming back!

-d

[Guest]

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Dave,
I am SO HAPPY for you. Each day you feel stronger and Magic (she is 3 years sobber) promises the "cravings" get better with time too. I believe her! Each day I feel better, but the trigger days still happen. Have to be REAL careful those days!!!! I am glad you are here, I started this little thread in April and we were going to go for 30 days...WELL here we all are still.