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[magic]

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Ah, bird. :h

I'm sending you a big hug. I've been thinking about you and the kids.

have a cup of tea, leave the beer.

m. xx

[MDBiker]

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I lost another post just as I was posting it. Arggg!!!!

Bird, you are right; everythnig will be alright. It always is. Here is an email I received from my oldest daughter. I think it is appropriate here.

People come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away. Sometimes they act up and force you to take a stand. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

Some people come into your life for a SEASON, because your turn has come to share, grow or learn. They bring you an experience of peace or make you laugh. They may teach you something you have never done. They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy. Believe it, it is real. But only for a season.!

LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons, things you must build upon in order to have a solid emotional foundation. Your job is to accept the lesson, love the person and put what you have learned to use in all other relationships and areas of your life. It is said that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant.

Thank you for being a part of my life, whether you were a reason, a season or a lifetime.

I love you all

:huggy

bear

[bird]

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Hi all
Bear, that was beautiful. I will save that.More2, my kids want nintendo which I am not getting them. They also want webkinz stuff. They are 9 and 10. The teachers at their school are going to buy them some stuff. They called and asked if they could...I am feeling a bit better than I was earlier. My kid is reading my post. I hate that. later bird

[Guest]

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This is LONG, but well worth the read. My daddy sent this to me lastnight. PLEASE read it!!!!
Hi hon,
Yes, sometimes I do, as you call it, sense that something is not right. You might be surprised at the number of times in your life when the Lord impressed my to pray for you because something was going on. It happens because not only do I love you with all my heart but the love that God has for you exceeds any that I could feel. His love for you is inexpressible (if that's a word).

I have been praying all day about how best to answer the issues you brought up in the last email. I have to be honest with you, that I am somewhat at a disadvantage because I don't know what you have been taught or believe about life, death and faith. I don't know if you are involved in a Bible believing church that teaches correctly the Bible. I don't know all of the hurts that you have experienced because of people who call themselves Christian. So what I feel I must do is speak to some concepts that are often misunderstood.

First, there is our "Heavenly Father's" Unconditional Love for His children. While I have believed that for many years, I always had trouble understanding it because I never got that from my father. It seemed he was always so angry. I felt like I had to earn his love. If I did what he said when he said it and the way he wanted it done, then I could feel loved. But that never worked! Because nothing I did was ever right or good enough. So I had lots of difficulty understanding the "Unconditional Love" of God. I know you know this. One of Joyce's first memories of you is when you were 9 you talked about some wrong behavior of someone in your family and how it wasn't right but that you loved them anyway.

Because of Jesus dying on the cross so that I could have a relationship with him made me know that he loved me. Because He loved me I grew to love Him and wanted to be more like Him. But because of some preaching I received, I thought my relationship with Him had to be like it was with my dad and do everything right. After time I began to understand that unconditional love is not loving because of what a person does, but loving in spite of what a person does. I began to understand that God loved me exactly the way I was but that he loved enough to not leave me the way I was. He wanted to change me to be more like Him.

I can hear you saying, "But what has his got to do with Billy and whether he is in heaven?" Honey, it has everything to do with it!! We sometimes get confused about the requirements to go to heaven when we die. The Bible teaches quite simply that by accepting what Jesus did for us on the cross makes us His children. That is the requirement. After that comes the desire to do certain things to please Him because we love Him and not do certain things because we know those things are wrong. It short we begin the process of growing up, maturing so that we can be more like Him.

You have said that Billy said he believed and knew where he would be. Perfection is not the meter - believing is!

Secondly, we need to learn that falling down is a part of life, but the important thing is getting up to keep going. How many times did Britt and Zak fall down before they could walk or run for that matter? We need like-believing people around us to stand with us in those difficult times. Shame and guilt are the tools that the enemy of our souls uses to keep us away from God and away from those who love us that can help. There are times when conviction will come because we know we are doing things that are not right. The difference is that conviction will draw us to God - shame and guilt will drive us away.

While I know there are other things that need to be addressed, I need to quit for now. But I have to leave you with this one thing -
you are not responsible for what happened and God is not responsible for what happened. Billy made a choice to drink and drive. One of these days his family will understand that. THIS GUILT DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU.

Someone once said - "If you're going to do something - do something good!"

We all love you deeply,
Dad

[magic]

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Bear, that was beautiful. And true.

Bird, what else would your kids like? Santa is my next door neighbour.
I'm glad you're feeling better.

Luv, you're right. That was important. Very.

The most important part was right at the very end.

You have no guilt to carry on those tiny shoulders. They have enough weight on them.

Oh, you are a lucky girl to have a daddy that loves you. So lucky, so blessed.

Thank you for sharing that with us.

m. xx

[Guest]

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Magic,
I don't know why but your words always just touch my soul, my heart to the corre. I tear up every time you give me comfort. I wish we were neighbors! Although....you are probably glad NOT, I'd be over every morning for coffee and my daily inspiration...HA HA

[magic]

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Luv,

I'm glad.

"People come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime..........."

m. xx

[bird]

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Luv you are lucky to have such a nice Dad. That is so special. I'm glad you are doing so much better. We do have our ups and downs here dont we?? ha more i have 2 sweet girls bird

[Guest]

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I think Bird has 2 girls, 9 and 7!

[Guest]

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HA BIRD, we cross posted. I am glad you all like the letter. I knew it was long and wondered should I post it, I typically don't post such lengthy posts.

[bootcampbarbie]

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wow, there is just so much love pouring out from this thread it is practically pouring down my computer. so very very special you all are. luv your daddy is a treasure and so are you.. magic is right no guilt can lay on those tiny shoulders of yours. none whatsoever. and bear, you are just so very cuddly. bird, it is tough to say goodbye to someone i don't care how mean they are. there is goodness in everyone. so it is only natural to grieve. you conceived two beautiful children with this man. of course you are going to feel love and sadness. well, the girlies have some xmas wishes yes/ do they have anymore? cuz i don't know a thing about either of which they've described so far.... hummmmmm. but i know you have a target in your area right? hummmmm. and everyone i do have birdie's address..... santa is on his way.... and so are his elves..... so love to all of you more 2 nibs and magic little elfette too. time for this one to pay some bills. glad and thankful to have the moolah to do that.

[Guest]

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We do love each other, so very funny since we have never laid eyes on one other in "real life". But, I consider you all like family. There isn't a one that if I received the call would I not sit up for hours in the middle of the night to help, cry with, run to you if needed. NOT ONE of you!!! You have made my sobreity possible. which in turn made my family begin to heal, for that I could never thank one of ou enough for joining this thread and helping me down my journey. Sure, we all have the journey, but there are many days for me and I am sure for you, that I don't NEEED to log on for me not to drink, but I feel obligated to chech in, make sure you all are doing ok for the day. AND, there have been times it was GOOD I did, someone needed us. I have been the one needed you all before. Bear will be calling, Tex, the posts flying. I love you and hope you have a wonderful day. Thank-you all for the kind words about my Daddy. He is a special man in my heart and that letter I will treasure forever. XXXOOO!!!

[MDBiker]

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Luv, you dad is very smart and I believe he has it right. There are so many preachers out there who are not teaching the truth I just about gave up on religion. I agree with you all. We are a family, and we all have an understanding of each other. It is an intimate relationship that is not sexual. The whole group internalizes whatever is going on in each other’s lives. I don't know how to explain it except to say we have is a brotherhood / sisterhood. We care about each other. Our lives are intertwined in this effort together and these experiences are the ties that bind .
E PLURIBUS UNUM
I love you all
bear

[bird]

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Hi all,
I found out today that the kids dad has not paid in social security in 10 years and thats what the lady was talking about. I was mad cuz we had even talked about the kids being able to draw it if something happened and he knew then he wasnt paying it. Well I wasnt a bit weepy after that. So I went up to the V.A. cuz he was a vet but they were closed so I said the hell with it all for now and went to the grocery. I know they'll get V.A. he couldnt mess that up. The funeral is tomorrow but we arent going its too far like 9 hours away and the kids didnt know him anyway. I'm glad to be feeling so much better and have someone to tell it all to.love you all..bird

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Bird,
Don't give up, there is money somewhere and more than you got out of his sorry butt before. I am glad the hear you better today!!!! I go to my seminar starting tomorrow. This is 3 days guys, I will check in each night and let ya know how I am doing. I am ready and nervous. It is time to move on. Parts of me just never grieved, maybe cause all the parts were drunk....LOL...it is true though. You can not grieve drunk. Because then you sobber up and all the grieving you should have done during the drunk time, is lost time on the healing process.