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    Hm. nobody around on this thread these days..... Really could use some insight on this topic.
    (AF since 17 May 2014) 2 years 5 months sober

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      Both are equally hard. I usually quit both together. Currently Cold Turkey from 10+ cans/day @ 2 days and same for smoking @ 1 day. I always have valium on hand for problems with beer but usually only 1st night if any. From past experience, the only way I have been able to do this is with vitamin B mega dose 2 tablets a day and good eating. Has helped alot. I also never have caffeine/coffee while quitting as it makes you nervey and I drink plenty of water.

      Have phenibut I'm trying in a few days as it made me feel excellent but that was last week after quitting and didn't give myself those 5 days to get rid of any withdrawal symtoms from beer/cigs

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