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    Brave New World

    AF since Christmas Day 2013

    I?ve struggled with alcohol addiction for what seems like a long time (I think I realised it was becoming a problem about 5 years ago and realised I had to stop about 18 months ago).

    One thing that I have in my favour is that I stopped smoking over 13 years ago. I rarely think about smoking, other than to smugly congratulate myself for defeating that nasty addiction. The main reason that I know that it is 13yrs is that I stopped smoking as my first child was born ? he was the catalyst and instigator of the change. The battle with nicotine was a long drawn out one -I had tried many, many times to stop , each time to start again after a very short time. The same with alcohol ? I have tried to cut down many times and quite a few times I have tried to quit completely. My best effort was six weeks - last summer. I have what could be considered to be a stressful job. After six weeks, the first time I met my Friday night drinking trigger, I caved in under the notion that I wanted to be like very one else.

    One of the main reasons I need to quit is that I have recently realised that currently, I?m unhappy when I?m drinking and also unhappy when I?m not drinking. This is due to the cravings I have ? they gnaw away at me constantly. I keep telling myself that I only drink at weekends, but I have to be honest and say that the weekend usually starts on Wednesdays.

    I have a responsible job where I?m the line manager for lots of people. I have managed to function reasonably well considering the frequency of my binge drinking, but I know that as a leader who doesn?t drink, I will be much more effective?..

    Anyway ? back story?.

    I have drunk on and off (more on than off) since I was about 14. I was raised in a culture where it was a right of passage to drink ? to go to pubs underage and drink yourself to oblivion ? or to share a bottle of cider with friends in some hidden away part of a park or car park. By the time you were 18 where I came from , you were very likely to be a seasoned drinker. Alongside this was also the added attraction of smoking. By the time I was 15 or 16, I was smoking as many cigarettes a day as I could afford. By the time I stopped smoking I had a reasonably well paid job so was getting through 30 cigarettes each day.

    Looking back , I think that when I stopped smoking, I merely transferred one addiction to another ? I transferred the addiction from nicotine to lager. I rarely, if ever, drank at home prior to stopping smoking. Over the last ten years or so, I have slowly but surely increased the amount of lager I consume, but more importantly, the frequency of my drinking.

    The final piece of the jigsaw is that I have struggled with my weight since childhood. Overeating has been a part of my life for ever. My size has defined me ever since I was a young boy.

    This changed about 18 months ago when I had weight loss surgery ? a gastric bypass. Since that time I have gone from 317 lbs to 190ish pounds. This has had a fantastic impact on my life ? my confidence and self esteem has dramatically increased as has my health and sense of well being.

    The only downside is that this in turn seemed to escalate my problem with alcohol. If I could turn back time, I would stop myself from reintroducing lager into my life after the op. For a time (about a month) I wasn?t able to drink lager ? I so wish I had kept that up?..but no point in rolling in mud ? that won?t get me clean.

    What is significant is that when a gastric bypass patient takes a sip of alcohol, the effect is like rocket-fuel coursing through the system. The buzz from the lager is incredibly quick and intense. At first, I couldn?t drink very much, but this slowly crept up until I could probably drink a similar amount to my pre-op standard. Prior to quitting, I would drink about 6 bottles of lager followed by 2-3 cans of Guinness?maybe not a huge amount by some standards, but enough to have all of the symptoms that I have read about on posts on here e.g., waking in the middle of the night, feeling dreadful physically and mentally. I have also noticed that the need to drink became more and more regular as time went on. I would keep pushing until I came to a point where I HAD to stop. I would stop for a short time, the start again under the premise that I could moderate my drinking.

    I now feel grateful that despite my alcohol intake, the weight loss has still happened. Despite my obvious self-destructive behaviours, I have still lost the weight.

    So here I am ? mid 40s ? ex smoker, ex drinker, ex overeater?.wanting to start again.

    I have everything that a person could want ? a loving wife and family, a good career, most of the trappings of success. I need to wake up to this and stop the behaviours that threaten it!

    I?m wanting to leave behind

    1, the hangovers

    2, the sense of shame

    3, the constant cravings that I have after the weekend prior to caving in and starting to drink

    I know that I can do this ? I did it with smoking, I can do it again. I just need to be ultra aware that just like in the case of smoking, I could transfer one addiction to another.

    I have already found this forum to be incredibly useful in my battle. I'm only 10 days sober but reading the posts of others and studying the toolbox has already saved me once (about 3 days ago) when I was about to revert to being the (ab)normal drinker

    I hope to use this thread to express my feelings , hold myself accountable and make sure I follow through?.fingers crossed!
    I gave myself a wonderful present on Christmas Day 2013 - a future free from the guilt and pain that alcohol causes....

    #2
    Brave New World

    Good Luck Chop :thumbsup:
    You'll do it - I feel it in my 'waters':H
    You sound like male ( somewhat younger) version of me.

    Ciggies are very difficult to stop - I stopped 10 years ago and replaced them with wine :egad:
    you have determination - you can do this too.
    Are you committing to total AF forever?
    That is something I am afraid I haven't done yet.
    Problem being I do not believe I hit my rock bottom & managed to 'nip it in the bud' before that happened.
    I think you are probably the same?

    what is your plan ?

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      #3
      Brave New World

      hi chopden. thanks for sharing that with us. you seem to have a clear insight as to how your problems have progressed and what you need to do to address them. that is a great starting point. now all you have to do is follow it through (easier said than done). keep reading and posting, there is a lot of great information here and it is good to write down your progress and how you are feeling.
      Today is the tomorrow i worried about yesterday and it turned out fine
      Keep passing the open windows

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        #4
        Brave New World

        Thanks for your replies Satz and Spuddleduck….
        I think it is the interaction with others that will make me win this battle. I previously set up a Wordpress blogging account - but whilst putting feelings down on 'paper' helps me, it is the interaction that I think I need - real people who understand to offer support but also give home truths when needed…

        You asked if I'm committed to AF forever…..tough question….this is why the forums are so powerful - I've not asked myself that question directly (or as directly as you did) ………..the answer is YES!!!!!

        For years, I have clung onto the idea that I can have a life where I do what others do - come home on a Friday evening, get pleasantly tipsy as an unwinding mechanism…I have learnt through bitter experience that it won't happen - Friday night and Saturday, get plastered - usual negative side effects (hangover, guilt etc) then come Monday morning, I do little else but obsess about Friday night and more recently, start to engineer opportunities to drink during the week. This escalates to drinking every night until I reach a crescendo where I stop drinking for a week or two , then start again under the premise of wanting to be normal.
        I cling onto the fact that I beat nicotine and I needed nicotine every 20 minutes- I recognise that nicotine and AL are different but they are both addictive substances.

        this time was different - after about 3 days, I started the 'I want to be normal' crap. I went onto the forum and read the numerous discussions about how there is no such thing and that one drink would put me back to square one. I also read some of the tips from the toolbox.
        When I think about wanting to drink I sing Taylor Swift's 'We are never ever getting back together' to myself (in my head of course). I think doing that has helped me have the conviction to say - yes , that's me finished with AL.
        You said you haven't committed to AF free for ever - do you mean you are currently abstaining with a view to moderating your intake in future? Good luck with that, that was always my goal. I've realised that it's not going to happen ….probably just a mirage in my case!
        Chop
        I gave myself a wonderful present on Christmas Day 2013 - a future free from the guilt and pain that alcohol causes....

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          #5
          Brave New World

          The Plan

          I was asked what my plan is:
          My plan is to set myself targets to achieve during the year. Each of them hinges on not drinking. If I take any AL whatsoever, my targets won't be met.
          My targets are:
          1, Get to my goal weight - 12.5 stones (175 lbs) - I'm currently 196 (not bad considering I was 317 lbs when I started the weight loss journey - but it could be the last few that are the hardest)
          2, Get better at doing my job - I won't give further details so that I maintain my current wish for anonymity. Thinking positively, I reflect on the fact that I am generally perceived to be doing a good job - this makes me think I am capable of doing so much more and being so much more successful if I go to work without a hangover and woolly headedness etc
          3, Get fit(her) - I have been a member of a gym for over a year, but haven't been many times?I'm all or nothing?drinking meant that I couldn't see the point in going - I don't deal very well with cognitive dissonance, I just give up (or I did). I'm also considering going back to martial arts - I gave it up about ten years ago.

          My plan is to be focused on these targets with the knowledge that only remaining AF will make them achievable?...
          I gave myself a wonderful present on Christmas Day 2013 - a future free from the guilt and pain that alcohol causes....

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            #6
            Brave New World

            Hi Chopden. Your goals sound great. I like your idea of targets. Even calling them 'targets' is a bit different than 'goals' and I think I'm going to steal your idea.

            Keep posting!!
            JMum
            My first "indifference experience" Saturday January 11, 2014. Thank God for Baclofen!

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              #7
              Brave New World

              :wd::wd: Chopden !!!
              Call into the Army Thread too - they'll love you over there - and it's a daily thread for you to drop into
              They are a bit quiet today after Christmas but we love new people and new perspective on things!!!
              I think you would slot right in there - especially with me trying to get back to the gym too :egad:

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                #8
                Brave New World

                Chop,

                I am also AF from Christmas day, all the very best bud. Your story sounds very familier. Wish you luck to stay Al free and I am sure that the community here will be great help in the process.

                Best,

                Vy

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                  #9
                  Brave New World

                  Thanks

                  Thanks for everyone's replies....I will definitely have a look att he army thread.

                  I take the point about nicotine fading away to nothingness....obviously I have no personal experience but every alcoholic I have ever heard of continues to fight the battle ie, it's never over.

                  I am currently using the analogy in my head of a boxing match - al is my opponent - I am concentrating everything I have on knocking the crap out of him. Hopefully I will knock him down but have to be aware that he will keep getting back up....I just have to make sure he doesn't gather any stength back.
                  Or is it more like the Peter Sellars' folms where the manservant used to ambush him- is that what it's like when a craving jumps on you after months or years of abstinence?

                  I have added another bit onto my plan. I am stopping using Facebook on a daily basis. I think I must spend at least an hour each day , checking repeatedly my newsfeed....to find the banal, mind numbing trivia over and pver again. I think that time would be much better spent on here reading about issues that are relevant, rather than learning about who has given a life in Candy Crush )
                  I gave myself a wonderful present on Christmas Day 2013 - a future free from the guilt and pain that alcohol causes....

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                    #10
                    Brave New World

                    Welcome, Chopden. Congratulations on your efforts thus far. I like your plan and clarity, this forum is full of wonderful, knowing people who are extremely caring and loving. Bi-pass surgery for many has caused problematic drinking.

                    Each of us has felt as you do, so welcome aboard and enjoy the journey, it's worth it.
                    Enlightened by MWO

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                      #11
                      Brave New World

                      What a day!

                      What a day of ups and downs! At it's best, I've felt brilliant , as if I have cracked it!
                      At worst, as if I'm standing at the edge of a precipice, looking into the abyss with no AL to break my fall....
                      Had a silly tiff with my wife that escalated into a row ( maybe me?) - left me feeling an emotional wreck..... Only thing to take out of it was that I was determined that it wouldn't make me resort to the poison - no f*****ing way.... Used my boxing analogy...first thought of AL, I imagined a huge right hook crashing into my jaw, I had dropped my guard and was sucker punched, I clung on until my head cleared , then kicked his ass again....
                      Hoping he's not doing any training overnight cos I don't want another war tomorrow - ding ding round 11 finished!
                      I gave myself a wonderful present on Christmas Day 2013 - a future free from the guilt and pain that alcohol causes....

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                        #12
                        Brave New World

                        Thanks for your thoughts Molly....the idea of jumping on 'bad' thoughts as soon as they come and stopping them developing is definitely something I need to work on.
                        I have had a decent day at work but then this evening I have had bad cravings. If I lived alone or didn't have these forums I would definitely broken and hit the bottle. I talked things through with my wife which helped but reading a post where the excruciating watching of the clock waiting for drinking time to come a round was described.... That brought back such powerful and negative memories, that is has stopped me in my tracks.....
                        I do need to a, learn to nip the cravings in the bud ( or should I say the internal dialogue that I have aimed at making it ok to start to drink sometime soon)- and b, to continue to read the threads avidly when craving. I do find that reading about the negativity of AL from others really helps me more than anything....other people describing the negative aspects that I am temporarily blind to......
                        Onwards and upwards....back to Candy Crush ( not )........)
                        Thanks again
                        I gave myself a wonderful present on Christmas Day 2013 - a future free from the guilt and pain that alcohol causes....

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                          #13
                          Brave New World

                          Chopden, I totally agree about fb! I gave it up too, when I was drinking I cud be sent into a foul humour by some edjit's stupid post! (My fault for paying attention to that crap!) I find my time well better spent being inspired by others on Mwo! :0)

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                            #14
                            Brave New World

                            Chop
                            Well done tonight !!!
                            One of the things that helps me is 'think through to the end'
                            Whenever we think of having 'the one' it sounds lovely and civilized.
                            But move on and play the movie to the end - a different story.
                            The bad sleep , the thirst, the hangover , the self-hate ,the eye bags etc etc.....
                            Works for me all the time !!

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                              #15
                              Brave New World

                              Hey Jamster
                              How's it going ?

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