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[spuddleduck]

I don't know what to say. but I try. I came here feb 2010, i new nothing. i was looking for help, i had a problem with drinking. i had never posted on an internet forum.... i didn't even know what an internet forum was. it took a hell of a lot of balls to introduce myself to the place that i now know as my way out... a wonderful place full of wonderful people . some who have found their way out, some who haven't and are still

[spuddleduck]

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sorry, the buttons went wrong.. what i feel now though is a lot of judgement...when i was first here i had so much support... what i feel now is .... ' well yeah get a grip love. surely you know you shouldn't drink.//;//// oh really spuddle... well try not drinking spuds.. we have done it ... whats wrong with you spuds... yeah we were there in 2010,,,, we are sober now.... so come on spuddleduck...... you are obviously a twat . . so i know that i am a good good person..... ha ha...... well apparently .... im supposed to give my heart ... s soo

[halo]

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Are you okay? If you need some help please let us know.

[DancingGirl]

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Hi Spud,

I'm sorry you're feeling that way. I don't judge, although you may not have seen or heard much from me, and I know there are many of us who are just taking our own lives as they come.

Sometimes things in writing come out "harder" than they're meant... The other thing to ponder is that there are people who are genuinely scared - scared of that their own struggle might not work out, scared that someone else's drinking might tempt them back, scared - knowing that they cannot risk it. My experience with my relatives and colleagues is that lots of seemingly judgemental and critical behaviour is actually the person feeling like they have to defend themselves - to strike before they are struck (or stricken with whatever).

Not sure if this helps, but I know it usually helps for everyone to cut a little slack.

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[spuddleduck]

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DancingGirl;1615602 wrote: Hi Spud,

I'm sorry you're feeling that way. I don't judge, although you may not have seen or heard much from me, and I know there are many of us who are just taking our own lives as they come.

Sometimes things in writing come out "harder" than they're meant... The other thing to ponder is that there are people who are genuinely scared - scared of that their own struggle might not work out, scared that someone else's drinking might tempt them back, scared - knowing that they cannot risk it. My experience with my relatives and colleagues is that lots of seemingly judgemental and critical behaviour is actually the person feeling like they have to defend themselves - to strike before they are struck (or stricken with whatever).

Not sure if this helps, but I know it usually helps for everyone to cut a little slack.


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o my goodness; n that makes a lot of sense . thanks. funny , I like the the best way to defend;;; n... is to strike before they are struck.......

[spuddleduck]

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THE BEST DAY OF MY CHILDHOOD WAS THE DAY THAT I DIDNT HAVE TO POST THIS.......HMM.HA HA

[spuddleduck]

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[red67]

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spuddleduck;1615600 wrote: sorry, the buttons went wrong.. what i feel now though is a lot of judgement...when i was first here i had so much support... what i feel now is .... ' well yeah get a grip love. surely you know you shouldn't drink.//;//// oh really spuddle... well try not drinking spuds.. we have done it ... whats wrong with you spuds... yeah we were there in 2010,,,, we are sober now.... so come on spuddleduck...... you are obviously a twat . . so i know that i am a good good person..... ha ha...... well apparently .... im supposed to give my heart ... s soo

Spuds, not sure what has happened and I don't quite understand your first post, but you know you have a lot of support here. If someone has suggested that maybe going completely AL free may be best for you, it might be because of the things you post when you drink. It is difficult to see you go thru so much anguish when you have been drinking. Your sober posts are thoughtful and well written. Your posts when drinking are confusing.

You and I joined at about the same time and I have followed you the whole way. I care about you and so do so many others here. I hope you are doing ok tonight and that tomorrow is a better day.:l

[spuddleduck]

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SILKWOOD ...... A FILM I WILL NEVER GET OVER....... IN CASE ANY NOT KNOW ABOUT IT ;;; READ READ READ READ

[paulywogg]

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Spuddleduck,i dont think anyone is judging you,i think youre judging yourself,i know cuz i do it too,ive been here nearly two years trying to get completely sober and i fail,i think to myself that people must get sick of hearing me post that i drank,i dunno,seems some come to the forum and just "get it"right off the bat,i dont know how they do it?its not like we dont have the want to quit,or a plan in place,i think its just this shitty addiction thats hard to shake,all we can do is keep trying if anybody is judging you or anybody else,their an asshole,ignore 'em,i agree though that when you post sober,you are smart,friendly and have intelligent things to say,i like that spudsi also LOVE the quote in your signature i use it often in my head,thank you

[YouKayBee]

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Spuds

I think the problem is that people care, and that your posts when drinking are almost always very alarming. You keep typing "but I'm here and that's progress" but it doesn't appear that way from the outside. If you knew someone who kept putting their hand on the fire and coming to you with a burned hand, they decided to use an asbestos glove but still got burned, but it was a bit less, after a while surely you'd suggest "How about you don't turn the fire on, or if you must just don't put your hand near it".

For some reason you react very badly with alcohol and it's quite distressing to watch. Many who use Nal & TSM do see a big reduction in harmful or reactionary drunken behaviour, I do believe you when you say you've seen an improvement but my suggestion would be to try the full 50mg dose OR get on the AF wagon permanently. You've done it before and can do it again.

Anyone reading who isn't familiar with TSM you take Naltrexone 1 hour before you drink alcohol, every time you drink and over time you're desire for alcohol declines to the point where you can control it and/or decide to go abstenant. Most people even if their units don't drop very much initially, do see a personality change when drinking - that crazy risk taking behaviour ceases. The usual, recommended dose is 50mg but some people are sensitive and 25mg is enough. A full 50mg dose can cause nausea and sickness at first, so it's adviseable to get used to 25mg first and increase to 50mg. The drug blocks endorphin receptors in the brain, which is how it works and 25mg isn't always enough to block all of them, hence 50mg recommended dose.

[mama bear]

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Oh Spuds....hugs
I have been and will continue to be a support.
We are all just worried about you...

[red67]

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Ukblonde;1615859 wrote: Spuds

I think the problem is that people care, and that your posts when drinking are almost always very alarming. You keep typing "but I'm here and that's progress" but it doesn't appear that way from the outside. If you knew someone who kept putting their hand on the fire and coming to you with a burned hand, they decided to use an asbestos glove but still got burned, but it was a bit less, after a while surely you'd suggest "How about you don't turn the fire on, or if you must just don't put your hand near it".

For some reason you react very badly with alcohol and it's quite distressing to watch. Many who use Nal & TSM do see a big reduction in harmful or reactionary drunken behaviour, I do believe you when you say you've seen an improvement but my suggestion would be to try the full 50mg dose OR get on the AF wagon permanently. You've done it before and can do it again.

Anyone reading who isn't familiar with TSM you take Naltrexone 1 hour before you drink alcohol, every time you drink and over time you're desire for alcohol declines to the point where you can control it and/or decide to go abstenant. Most people even if their units don't drop very much initially, do see a personality change when drinking - that crazy risk taking behaviour ceases. The usual, recommended dose is 50mg but some people are sensitive and 25mg is enough. A full 50mg dose can cause nausea and sickness at first, so it's adviseable to get used to 25mg first and increase to 50mg. The drug blocks endorphin receptors in the brain, which is how it works and 25mg isn't always enough to block all of them, hence 50mg recommended dose.

You are absolutely correct UK. Spuds, maybe it's time to really consider giving up alcohol completely. Are you ready to get off this roller coaster ride? You know we are all here to support you.

What does alcohol really even do for you?

[treetops]

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Hi Spuds - yes,your posts were very alarming but you can see that lots of people all over the world do care. We all have ridden this roller-coster in one form or another and know the rides.
Consider really taking time out from AL - for good - its not as scary as it sounds -- but you have a very serious addiction and don't maybe see it that way. Many of us who have quit AL for some time started with baby steps.You have done that - and you can do that again.
Hope you have got some rest.

[vynan]

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Spuds,

We are all here for you and no ones judging. This is a great place with lovely friends. Give up the rollercoaster ride, it ain't worth it. Get some rest and we want to give you mega hugs....

Vy