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    #1

    Sincere apology, please read.

    After much thought, and some pretty awesome private messages, I decided to come back but I wanted to offer a sincere apology for what was said. I wanted support but forgot that there are others here that have struggled in many different, often much harder, ways than I could comprehend and that is why there were people offering support in the only way they knew how from their own situations and experience. I lost sight of that.

    Going through this experience has taught me that we all live in the same building but have different views. We all somehow ended on the same path but coming here took different directions to improve our lives and I understand fully now that my way will not work for others and the paths that others took will not work for me. Some would call what I do ?binge drinking? while for me and my circumstance I call moderation and it has been working very well for not only myself buy my family with some amazing results. I am currently on day five of being sober before I hit the weekend enjoying booze on my terms instead of the boozes terms.

    I have come to respect everyone here for their own circumstances and their choices to correct their problems and I will keep on with my continuous thread. I welcome any feedback and all comments but please understand that for me this is moderation, my moderation and not moderation defined by a website or a consensus of experts that disagree with the consensus of other experts regarding moderation?it is my own and it is going great.

    Thank you all for being here for the support of others?I sincerely believe that this site is essential for guiding lost souls to a path where they can succeed.
    Whoever I had become, the alcoholic, had to die.
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    Lovely thoughts, True.
    We all have different paths and I wish you well.
    Thank you.
    I love my family more than alcohol.:h
    Live in the Solution....not the problem

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      #3
      Sincere apology, please read.

      Well done True- sometimes it hard not to take on what others say.. But just take what you want from the posts and leave the rest... I'm glad you are back and back with an awesome attitude...

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        #4
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        Great words right there....
        If I can help you in any way...I'm a shout away! Welcome back, this place is big enough for ALL of us on this journey! Byrdie
        All you gotta do, is get thru this day. AF 1/20/2011
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          #5
          Sincere apology, please read.

          Anyone posting here, improving their life, deserves support. A number of people who keep alcohol in their lives post mostly under long term moderation. That is a choice you have.
          My life is better without alcohol, since 9/1/12. My sobriety tool is the list at permalink 236 on the toolbox thread under monthly abstinance.

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            #6
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            Apology totally accepted!

            Like Byrdie said...we are here if you ever need anything!! Good luck on your path, I am truly happy it's working for you! :l
            :heart:I love my daughter more than alcohol:heart:

            Believe in yourself. You are stronger than you think.

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              #7
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              Hi True,i wanted to stay out of the whole controversy of mod/abstaining thingie, so i never posted my opinion but i just want to say you gotta do whats right for YOU,its your life and the guidelines for what is safe to drink is what is set by the government or who else i dunno,all i know is in real life people do get a buzz once in awhile,so what?how many guys sit around football sunday and only drink 2 beers?get real,girls nite out,bachelor parties,bbq's etc,if you feel you can do what youre doing and it doesnt effect your life negatively then do it,sheesh i eat pizza once a week at least,i smoke,i drink a bunch soda,im sure its not the recommended amount but it makes me happy,im glad youre back,ill be following you on your thread and wish you the best
              I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

              I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
              Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                #8
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                mama bear wrote: We all have different paths and I wish you well.
                Thank you.
                No, mama bear, thank you!

                bkyogagurl wrote: Well done True- sometimes it hard not to take on what others say.. But just take what you want from the posts and leave the rest... I'm glad you are back and back with an awesome attitude...
                I agree, I will take what I can from the people here and try to give what I can back. I can't let others opinions anger me as they have a very real reason why they have those opinions for themselves.

                Byrdlady wrote:                 If I can help you in any way...I'm a shout away! Welcome back, this place is big enough for ALL of us on this journey! Byrdie
                Thank you much Byrdie! I promise if I need some perspective I will give you a holler for sure.

                Sunbeam wrote:                 A number of people who keep alcohol in their lives post mostly under long term moderation. That is a choice you have.
                I will be posting there as well. I guess I am posting in general is to show some people here that there are other ways in case their current path is not working for them. There are obviously a lot of people that do not post but created an account and cruise the boards. Maybe I can reach out to them as well.
                Whoever I had become, the alcoholic, had to die.

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                  #9
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                  Thank you K9lover and paulywogg! You guys are win! I really appreciate what you guys said.
                  Whoever I had become, the alcoholic, had to die.

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                    #10
                    Sincere apology, please read.

                    I have come to respect everyone here for their own circumstances and their choices to correct their problems and I will keep on with my continuous thread. I welcome any feedback and all comments but please understand that for me this is moderation, my moderation and not moderation defined by a website or a consensus of experts that disagree with the consensus of other experts regarding moderation?it is my own and it is going great.
                    Hi TG, and welcome back. I takes a lot to tackle one's drinking, we are all here because we are problem drinkers. Some of us go so far as to say we are alcoholics. Some feel they can moderate. Some choose to stick to the threads that are appropriate to that time in their fight against AL, and some don't. You came on, said you were done with AL, then decided on moderation, fair enough.

                    Many people come here and are desperate. Their lives are slowly (sometimes faster than others) being destroyed by AL.

                    I am going to make a suggestion, in the spirit of the board, that you move this thread to the moderators section.

                    The reasons for my suggestion? Many people trying to mod do not necessarily subscribe to your ideas of moderation. You might find more support on there than you will find on the general thread, and more realistic feedback from people who are on that path.

                    The other reason is empathy. Especially for new people joining the site and trying so hard to give up the one thing that has cost them everything in their lives only to see a thread on the main page saying 'it's okay as long as you only if you only get blind drunk on Saturdays and Sundays'.

                    many people can't do that, I hope you can. I know I can't, and I know how hard it is for me to read about someone else's over indulgence's on alcohol when I know how bloody hard and long it's taken me to be AL free, and I actually trust the threads that I stick to in this forum to keep me right.

                    In short, I really don't want to log into the general thread and hear about how drunk you got last Saturday. And I wish I could say I'm sorry, but I am not.
                    Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it! ~ Goethe

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                      #11
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                      broken halo;1617522 wrote:

                      I am going to make a suggestion, in the spirit of the board, that you move this thread to the moderators section.

                      The reasons for my suggestion? Many people trying to mod do not necessarily subscribe to your ideas of moderation. You might find more support on there than you will find on the general thread, and more realistic feedback from people who are on that path.

                      The other reason is empathy. Especially for new people joining the site and trying so hard to give up the one thing that has cost them everything in their lives only to see a thread on the main page saying 'it's okay as long as you only if you only get blind drunk on Saturdays and Sundays'.

                      many people can't do that, I hope you can. I know I can't, and I know how hard it is for me to read about someone else's over indulgence's on alcohol when I know how bloody hard and long it's taken me to be AL free, and I actually trust the threads that I stick to in this forum to keep me right.

                      In short, I really don't want to log into the general thread and hear about how drunk you got last Saturday. And I wish I could say I'm sorry, but I am not.
                      I completely understand what you are saying and it makes a hell of a lot of sense! I will move that to the moderation thread based on your concerns. How would I go about doing so? Do I need to ask a forum mod to do so?

                      Also, I just wanted to say that I do not get blind drunk on those days. I do get a good buzz going but far from drunk...those days are over.
                      Whoever I had become, the alcoholic, had to die.

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                        #12
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                        hey, I saw your post about what you drank that weekend. I don't know whether to congratulate you or bury you. I don't know how to move threads, jeez, do I have to do everything? :P
                        Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it! ~ Goethe

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                          #13
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                          broken halo;1617528 wrote: hey, I saw your post about what you drank that weekend. I don't know whether to congratulate you or bury you. I don't know how to move threads, jeez, do I have to do everything? :P
                          LMAO! Ok, ok. Ill try to figure it out.
                          Whoever I had become, the alcoholic, had to die.

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                            #14
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                            Glad you at least have sense of humour :P
                            Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it! ~ Goethe

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                              #15
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                              I am knowing for not beating about the bush, I know you'll get better guidance in the modding section, but I do not believe moderation is about the 'buzz'. Moderation to me means a normal level of drinking, which is 1-2 drinks, the occasional drunk spell, and nothing over and above recommended limits (which doesn't mean saving up your units for 2 days each week).

                              Unfortunately many non-alcoholics don't provide a good model of moderation, because many 'normal' drinkers are also dependent to some extent.

                              Please, please, please be careful and do not deny yourself. If you truly can moderate brilliant if not, then do not prolong your suffering. The disease/illness/whatever of alcoholism kills and before it kills it makes life bloody miserable.
                              I used the Sinclair Method to beat my alcoholic drinking.

                              Drank within safe limits for almost 2 years

                              AF date 22/07/13

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