The Three Principles Discussion Thread

[kuya]

I'm a fan of Tolle but struggle to stay in "the now". The 3Ps understanding helps with that.
Forgiving and gratitude naturally follow from the 3Ps as well.
I'm finding the three key things I've been seeking.
Thanks, again, Kuya, for returning to share this concept.

The difference between 3Ps and Tolle is that the latter tells you what enlightenment 'feels' like, the former shows you 'how' it is possible.

I started listening to Tolle a few years ago and yawned a lot....I wasn't ready.

I am enjoying them both very much now...side by side depending on my mood.

[kuya]

An interesting TED talk. Not 3Ps per Se but querying how we construct reality and the very nature of reality.

Donald Hoffman: Do we see reality as it is? | TED Talk | TED.com

This was from 'the inside-out revolution' Facebook page which I suggest folks join for lots of interesting tidbits like this

[lifechange]

I'm really enjoying the Ekhart Tolle videos.. loved the one about annoying people. I also liked this one about acceptance..living in the present..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVcXGPp7q24

[NoSugar]

Here are some 3P thoughts I posted in the NN today:

...and I don't ever want to forget that but I do want to forgive myself. Learning about the 3 Principles that govern how each of us operates in the world has made that so natural. Even though it doesn't always look like it, each of us is always doing the best we can given what we understand and are thinking in the moment. As I look back, my "best" was pretty poor for several years. But I'm no longer so angry with myself for not seeing things then as I am able to now, after 3 years of no longer poisoning myself with alcohol and thinking that I was permanently flawed and broken.

I've been puzzling all this time about how MWO works for many of us - we try and try to stop and then BOOM, one day we're done. No drugs, no therapy, no tangible sticks or carrots. How can that happen? I think what changed, at least for me, was simply my thinking. The 3-year process I've been through didn't need to take that long. As soon as we think we are well, we are. None of us are flawed or broken - our human nature is one of health.

A craving is nothing but a thought that we can either pay attention to or dismiss. At the time, I thought I needed to drink, so I did. It didn't seem like there was a choice. But it is within any of us to think of ourselves as non-drinkers at any moment. The painful moments from my drinking days are not happening now. They exist only as my thoughts and as such, I can either go over them again and again and again (as I did for years) accomplishing nothing other than hurting myself or I can let the thoughts happen as they will and immediately let them go. I'm learning to forgive that woman who didn't know she was a prisoner of her own thoughts - and held the key the whole time. We all do. We all are just one thought away from health. It doesn't need to take 3 years.

[little beagle]

I agree NS. It is a thought. I had made a decision that I was finished. I didn't care what it took. Every time I wanted to drink, I said no. The decision was final. That's it. I don't drink.

[NoSugar]

These talks by Syd Banks really bring it all together after you've explored the ideas for awhile:
Three Principle Photos & Videos | 3PGC
When I tried to watch them a couple months ago, I thought he sounded kind of crazy. Now the same videos make sense.

[kuya]

These talks by Syd Banks really bring it all together after you've explored the ideas for awhile:
Three Principle Photos & Videos | 3PGC
When I tried to watch them a couple months ago, I thought he sounded kind of crazy. Now the same videos make sense.

I am going to treat myself to his talks....they are quite expensive to buy but are supposed to be wonderful.

What you say about allowing things to sink in is so true. I continue to be astounded at the constant changes in myself.

3Ps points to how we create our reality, literally construct it from birth onwards then behave as though it is real. We are to remember that it is a lifelong task to remind ourselves of this as by doing so we can become less caught up in the ego of our 'life'.

I have certainly found that to be so this last couple of days. I have voiced an opinion on a matter I believe to be important and feel totally calm about it. Prior to 3Ps I would have gone on debating and defending, whereas I have ignored any further debate that is simply about ego.

Others are lost in their own reality.....what is true, is true, regardless of opinion.


As I have mentioned before I am becoming less attached to my physical form and totally unattached to any geographical accident of birth.......they are not "me".

The degree to which many remain attached to these coincidental by products of ovulation/ejaculation seem to be reflected in their insecurity.

Below is a link to "Our Children" by the poet Kahlil Gibran, it sums up how I view my own life and the life of my own children. I am their mother but they belong to the world.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3Al5MMOQ6vKW6LbzGpGtTQJ1CsTHwBwgpnA6Qy4Qo7GQbER0s

[Guitarista]

Brill piece from Kahlil. I'm a big fan. Also anything from Rumi or Mick.

[NoSugar]

I've not read that poem before, Kuya - thank you. I think it applies to grandchildren, also, and maybe to anyone we are trying to guide. We all should hope to be stable bows.

Some recent posts have elicited strong reactions in me, also, and I had the urge to respond immediately and in anger but one "corollary" of the 3 principles is that that is exactly the wrong state of consciousness in which to interact. I'm so glad that was immediately in my awareness and I didn't post anything - and I'm not explaining, deleting, or apologizing today. It is hard to understand others' thinking sometimes but perhaps the important thing is to realize it is just their thinking, it doesn't mean that what they say is true nor does it have anything to do with me. I also know that what should follow from a 3Ps awareness is compassion and forgiveness. That is harder sometimes.

As I have mentioned before I am becoming less attached to my physical form and totally unattached to any geographical accident of birth.......they are not "me".

They aren't the core of you but they shape our thinking and so our experience of life, don't they? I can see how understanding how life works can help you step back, observe, and not take it all so seriously but our physical forms and circumstances aren't meaningless.

This ego thing is tough.

[kuya]

our physical forms and circumstances aren't meaningless.

This ego thing is tough.

Our physical forms and circumstances mould us but the sooner we each awake to the fact that 'we' are NOT these accidents of birth the sooner humanity will stop tearing itself apart.

The ego thing IS tough, but nothing worth having was ever easy won.

[Guitarista]

And our minds and souls can roam free no matter our form, but let's not forget to get maximum benefit and longevity out of our finite physical forms, which also allow us to roam free. In other words......shake that ass on a regular basis. It's all connected.

Will have to check out Banksy on those vid links, thanks.

[Guitarista]

I have certainly found that to be so this last couple of days. I have voiced an opinion on a matter I believe to be important and feel totally calm about it. Prior to 3Ps I would have gone on debating and defending, whereas I have ignored any further debate that is simply about ego.

Others are lost in their own reality.....what is true, is true, regardless of opinion.

Right on. The ego. This reminds me of some verbal fisticuffs I had with middle and senior management at my (still current) job in 2013. I was infuriated mostly during the many meetings/process and their 'disciplinary' hearings. They made assumptions based on zero, engaged in clumsy unco-ordinated poor work practice and were just a big PITA. What infuriated me mostly was that their irritating attitude affected my day to day work. In the end all was ok, probably after I alerted our top boss to the shenanigans.

But what I remember is how my approach and thinking naturally changed and modified itself to seeing the whole thing for what it was. I began to look at their attitude/actions as ego driven, way under/misinformed and nothing to do with the reality of my work practice. I also took the view that this was not personal and couldn't be. I became a lot more 'zen' like and let them say what they liked (realizing I was dealing with schoolyard behavior), but always steering them back to reality and accountability in my newly detached and relaxed manner. Thank fk I had union support in these meetings with me to monitor things. I should add that I was health and safety rep during this time and had to call relevant authority to inspect a new workplace after 3 months of inaction from same management to install legally required fire exit signs. They didn't like having their tree shaken, but I sure loved it. lol.

Thing is, I was angry and frustrated and knew I didn't like feeling this way whenever I thought of it. It took me awhile to understand and acknowledge that others' behavior was not personal and was ego driven.

[NoSugar]

It seems like you figured out a lot of this on your own, Mr G. And I think you're right that we should take care of and enjoy this body that is carrying us around!

If any of you haven't been following Hazeleyes' thread, you should take a look! She gave me permission to share today's post here:

I encourage anyone wanting to quit to check out a new way of thinking via the Principles of Mind, Consciousness, and Thought where you create your own reality, and the idea that happiness comes from inside yourself, not from money or people or things. This has been the key for me to get this far with relative ease, compared to the many quits I have attempted over the past 5 years. I suppose it's still early days, but I feel very different and know for me this is the answer I have spent my whole life looking for.
I wish you all well.
H

[kuya]

Mr G I am impressed at your patience.

It can be hard to leave people wallowing in their own ego when it causes so much damage.

It is better to walk away when you can but, as you did, just quietly wait. I am so happy to be self employed and only have my own 'crazy' to deal with.

[kuya]

It seems like you figured out a lot of this on your own, Mr G. And I think you're right that we should take care of and enjoy this body that is carrying us around!

If any of you haven't been following Hazeleyes' thread, you should take a look! She gave me permission to share today's post here:

Isn't it wonderful to see Hazeleyes taking to this like a duck to water?

Finding the balance of enjoying our physical self but not confusing that physical form AS self is a skill NS.