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    Overcast and cool this morning, the remains of tropical storm Harvey will be moving in tomorrow, expecting 2-4 inches of rain, thankfully nothing like the poor souls in Houston. In 2008 Ike moved through with winds at 80-90 miles/hour. Knocked down trees, tore roofs off, and the power was out for 4 days. Winds will only be about 30-40mph this time. He'll be through by Saturday morning.
    Sorry Empy, I know nothing about the meds you speak of, never have used anything but AL. I should probably be on Lipitor, but refuse.
    Looking for 24 more here for me and all my friends.

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      4:53 am in Vegas another 24 please
      I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

      I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
      Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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        "Have the courage to say no. Have the courage to face the truth. Do the right thing because it is right. These are the magic keys to living your life with integrity."


        6:25am in Alberta, another 24 please, and thanks...

        In the past 24 hours, these people have signed in for 24 hours of sobriety:
        @ [MENTION=17650]paulywogg[/MENTION] [MENTION=17632]Mr Vervill[/MENTION] [MENTION=20895]Orimus[/MENTION] [MENTION=22385]ssd858[/MENTION] [MENTION=16893]Wildflowers[/MENTION] [MENTION=15430]lifechange[/MENTION] abcowboy

        In a bit of a rush this morning, have to go backfill those plumbing trenches I did now that they've passed inspection! I'll read back and catch up once I'm on the combine. Let's keep it between the lines today eh!
        Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
        Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
        Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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          [MENTION=17632]Mr Vervill[/MENTION], I remember so well Hurricane Ike. It hit our area hard and got slightly above zero coverage in the media. I remember feeling slighted by that! Especially since we had no power for a week and others in our went without it even longer than that! So many roofs damaged and trees down. But to the media it seemed like it never happened, except for local outlets.

          [MENTION=23850]empyr3al[/MENTION], I have no knowledge about gabapentin other than my own experience. It has worked for me at 300mg for nerve pain and it has improved my quality of sleep, but if my doc had asked me to go beyond 300mg, I would not have taken it. I specifically asked her if it would be a problem to go off of it and if I would have to taper. She said that wouldn't be an issue at 300mg, so I gave it a try. I was on an anti depressant years ago that required tapering and I had great difficulty getting off that med. It was Lexapro. My best suggestion is for you to do what you are doing. Be honest with your doc about all the things you are taking and do research on new meds when prescribed. I wish I had more to offer!

          24 more for all of us, please.
          Last edited by dill; August 31, 2017, 07:42 AM.
          Dill

          Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

          If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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            Originally posted by empyr3al View Post
            I just lost like 500-1000 word post about Gabapentin vs Valium and questions because my puppy plays with my power cords. Set up blockades now. I swore we had a power outage, maybe she just hit the reset button on the surge protector.

            So pharma says 300/day for a week on a schedule, move to 600, then 900. That seems like maintenance and not the initial days. The bottle is huge! I've never had a pill bottle this large. 180*300 for a month. Anyone used this with AWS as my specialist was more secure with me using it than valium doing home detoxing (yeah it happens fast for me, like 2 days and not like a hang over, I'm right back kindled where I began). So what doses do you take yourself down right away and then take yourself down at. Its taken 40, 26, 12, 8, 4, nearly normal oz for 24 or more. Then I get cleaning up this mess I made. Getting the sweats for the first time in months of doing this. I had a fit per say (lapse) so anyone with experience replacing this instead of valium for AWS? Should I hit it hard or take my time when the symptoms hit? Whats its lag time?
            No idea about Gabapentin but valium is the best thing to have as backup for an alcoholic as far as im concerned .Ill never forget the fear alcohol withdrawal can make you feel.

            Just found a reference to gabapentin here Practical Protocol for Prescribing Baclofen in Alcohol Addiction – Baclofen Treatment for Alcoholism
            Last edited by Neo; August 31, 2017, 12:26 PM.

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              Re: ~cattleman cafe~ & another 24...

              24 please (2 weeks today

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                Re: ~cattleman cafe~ & another 24...

                I'll gladly take another 24 please. Thank you.



                [MENTION=15430]lifechange[/MENTION] - I'll be back later to look for Mollers post. Unless, Pauly finds first. Yes, Mollymoo is brilliant!..:smile:


                [MENTION=22385]ssd858[/MENTION] - :congrats: on your two weeks. Thanks for being a ray of sunshine at MWO!...

                [MENTION=23850]empyr3al[/MENTION] - not sure what AWS is? I don't take AD's they don't work for me and coming off them was awful.

                @ Mr Vervil - when you have time, will you please elaborate on why you refuse Lipitor?

                Hope ya all have a good AF day. :love:

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                  Re: ~cattleman cafe~ & another 24...

                  I’ll have 24 too

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                    1:53 in the afternoon on a busy day troubleshooting. Sun was out earlier but I see it's getting dimmer out there, 80 f. Of course there was a time when I didn't have a window here at the bunker. Committing to another 24 hours.
                    “If we are facing in the right direction, all we have to do is keep on walking.” – Zen proverb

                    "See it as it is, not worse than it is just so you have a reason not to try." - Tony Robbins.

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                      [MENTION=15430]lifechange[/MENTION] - Here ya go.

                      https://www.mywayout.org/community/g...uit-stick.html Last page. Permalink #210. Thankfully, someone quoted Mollers. She did a spring clean up and all her past posts were deleted. The part that plays over and over in my mind is this: "when you truly know what you've done to yourself when you pick up that glass -- THAT'S when your quit will stick..."

                      Quote Originally Posted by mollyka View Post
                      so to the well meaning folks who tell you to 'pick yourself up and get back on the wagon' as if it is 'just a slip and it doesn't mean anything' -- omg Pauly -- it does -- and when you truly know what you've done to yourself when you pick up that glass -- THAT'S when your quit will stick...
                      all this is said with true care Pauly -- I don't want to hurt you - but neither do I want you to be lulled by 'kind' words -- addiction isn't kind and kindness won't keep us sober xxx
                      @mollyaka - Thank you Mollers!.... Ya is brillant!.... :love:

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                        Originally posted by Wildflowers View Post
                        [MENTION=23850]empyr3al[/MENTION] - not sure what AWS is? I don't take AD's they don't work for me and coming off them was awful.
                        AWS Means Alcohol Withdrawal Symptoms. Shakes, sweats, dt's, hallucinations, restlessness, easily frustrated, anxiety, siezure in some cases, in ability to concentrate, obsessive things, the list goes on. Mirrors a lot of withdrawal from other drugs but AWS is sometimes deadly.

                        Good luck on 24. Me too
                        "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." - Albert Einstein

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                          The winds of Harvey have started, but not yet with the rain, it will come, though.
                          [MENTION=7944]dill[/MENTION] looks like you'll be spared from most of the rain, probably just an inch or less for you, what a difference a few miles makes. Still looks like 2-4 inches of rain for us. [MENTION=16893]Wildflowers[/MENTION] I'm mostly a stubborn old coot who doesn't want to be on any meds. Lipitor can also cause muscle problems, and I saw that with my father in law after he went on it. I also believe ( perhaps wrongly) that cholesterol levels are not the best indicator of heart attacks or major cardiac problems. I've known personally, several fit, healthy, active people with low levels who have had heart attacks. What they had in common was huge amounts of stress in their lives, type A personalities. High cortisol. My mom's cholesterol levels have been over 400 most of her adult life, and she is now 89, and very active. I may be dead wrong too. Pun intended.
                          I try to eat right and stay active to keep things in control. [MENTION=23850]empyr3al[/MENTION], you might want to consult with a pharmacist as well as your Doc, as they know WAY more about how drugs interact. Most Docs really only know the basics.
                          24 more for me and my friends, please!
                          Last edited by Mr Vervill; September 1, 2017, 05:41 AM.

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                            5:36 am in Vegas,I'll happily take 24 more please
                            I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                            I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                            Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                              "When thinking about life, remember this: No amount of guilt can solve the past, and no amount of anxiety can change the future."


                              6:45am in Alberta, I'll have another 24 please, and thanks...

                              In the past 24 hours, these people have signed in for 24 hours of sobriety:
                              [MENTION=17632]Mr Vervill[/MENTION] [MENTION=17650]paulywogg[/MENTION] [MENTION=7944]dill[/MENTION] [MENTION=22857]Neo[/MENTION] [MENTION=22385]ssd858[/MENTION] [MENTION=16893]Wildflowers[/MENTION] [MENTION=20895]Orimus[/MENTION] abcowboy

                              TGIF! It's a long weekend up here in Canada, I'll spend it in a combine and sticking with my quit!
                              Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
                              Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
                              Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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                                I'll commit to 24 as I weather the storm!
                                Dill

                                Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

                                If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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