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    Re: ~cattleman cafe~ & another 24...

    24 more. Sorry for your loss [MENTION=15430]lifechange[/MENTION].

    Warm (unseasonable) and wet/damp here between the great lakes. Looks very temporary but I'll take it. Oddly the trees still have all their leaves except one or two sub types like the black walnut. Very odd autumn.

    I've been taking a closer look at my medications and trying to figure out bias' between sites (Bluelight forum, baclofen treatment, etc) and their agenda's. I have my specialist appointment next week and I need to get my head around whats been going on to see if I can figure out which Gaba A B / Calcium Ion Channels / NMDA and Serotonin I'm messing with. Oddly enough I've found conjecture rampant and people are speculating things and everyone has a different experience. Looking closely at Gabapentin which seems to have some unusual effects in terms of memory and attention span and serious withdrawals for some. It definitely either placebo wise helped me quit AL. Oddly its supposed to stunt the anxiety and energy but seems to make me ON all the time. So some research on it I've concluded its a devil in disguise and I should not be upping it as I have been. I think I will try a day with less to see if I am one of the unlucky ones that experiences withdrawal from it... I have yet to find out. I have a little fear as I take Campral and after reading about Gabapentin it seems they both mess with the Voltage Gated Calcium Ion Channel that relates to how Gaba's work. Could the combo causing the ON switch to be flicked. That or its prolonged withdrawal still from AL.

    So realistic assessment time of myself, look at the last couple weeks and what I remember and don't (as it appears to cause some blacking out of memory function or making synapses). I'll have one other person make a list of my behaviors as well and see what the specialist says. Complicated when you research yourself instead of blindly taking medicines from your GP or specialist.
    Last edited by empyr3al; November 2, 2017, 01:55 PM. Reason: Rx contemplation.
    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." - Albert Einstein

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      Re: ~cattleman cafe~ & another 24...

      In just under the wire today. Just back from the tiki bar on the beach, sipping ginger beer (non-AL). Two days down here on the beach and no booze! yea!. Mom was super surprised to see us all!
      24 more for me please

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        Super glad you took a moment to check in, [MENTION=17632]Mr Vervill[/MENTION]! I am really impressed with your achievement, too! I wonder if anybody has noticed or said anything to you about your abstinence?

        [MENTION=23850]empyr3al[/MENTION], your posts always give me new info or something new to google. I hope you can figure your pharma situation out satisfactorily. I found my head swimming the last time you mentioned Gaba A and Gaba B receptors and I went googling. I find it all too dauntingly complicated for me! I'm sticking with what my doc recommends: 300mg Gabapentin. I will say that I have had some questions about whether or not it was affecting my memory and like you that is a concern of mine. As to withdrawal at that level, there isn't supposed to be a problem, but I did find that when I tried to stop taking it I had difficulty sleeping. I resumed taking it before I could see if that would diminish with time. Sleep is too precious. I think without it I would be sorely tempted to return to the substance that was my sedative of choice for too many years.

        Greetings to all others here in the café! It's 60F for a high today with clouds but no rain. Pretty nice. I'll take it without alcohol!
        Last edited by dill; November 3, 2017, 06:25 AM.
        Dill

        Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

        If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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          6:25am in Alberta, 24 more please, and thanks...

          in the past 24 hours, these people have signed in for 24 hours of sobriety:
          [MENTION=17650]paulywogg[/MENTION] [MENTION=7944]dill[/MENTION] [MENTION=20895]Orimus[/MENTION] [MENTION=23850]empyr3al[/MENTION] [MENTION=17632]Mr Vervill[/MENTION] abcowboy
          Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
          Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
          Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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            8:21 here in Jersey and looks to be a sunny day today. Committing to another 24!

            So two oddities. Got a call a few weeks ago from a publisher that ran across my book on Amazon. Trying to to talk me into entering a self-publishing partnership for $1800. Was looking at their website the other day but now I look it up and I'm not sure if I'm just not remembering the company name correctly or not but I can't seem to find it. Tempting but I'm a little wary. Now I just got a call from Navient education services that I'm some sort of contact for an ex-girlfriend I haven't seen in three years. Alarm bells are starting to go off in my head a bit. Geesh.
            Last edited by Orimus; November 3, 2017, 07:27 AM.
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              Good job Mr V!

              Seems strange indeed Orimus, I'm not one to believe in coincidences..

              First day of hunting tomorrow for my boy and I! Hunting season opened Nov 1st but since Adam has just started into a new position with his company, he didn't want to take the day off. We'll be out in the cool, crisp, fresh air first thing tomorrow morning!
              Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
              Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
              Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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                Re: ~cattleman cafe~ & another 24...

                5:47 am in Vegas here's to another 24 for me and whoever else needs/wants them,let's do it!
                I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                  X-post Pauly, yep, let's do this!
                  Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
                  Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
                  Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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                    Re: ~cattleman cafe~ & another 24...

                    Another 24 please, 7:57am -13C and snowing. Beautiful though
                    Narilly

                    "Nothing in this World Can take the place of Persistence"
                    "You can have the life you want OR you can Drink"

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                      "When you become willing to hide nothing, you will not only be willing to enter into communion but will also understand peace and joy."-Anonymous
                      This quote hit the nail on the head for me this morning. I'm trying to be more open and honest with everyone in my life.. but it takes work breaking old habits!
                      Hope everyone has a nice day/weekend.
                      Looking forward to 24 af hours.

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                        [MENTION=7944]dill[/MENTION], I would not worry about 300mg. I'm at 900-1200 and only took 300 Yesterday. I had the worst sleep and was conscious every hour. That's unusual as I sleep solid. I took diphenhydramine aka benedryl tab last light to see if it would help. I was curious and haven't had issue dicing the quantity so far other than that. Some people are hitting 3000 to 5000mg a day and for much longer periods of time and describe some really strange effects on it or weening off of it. I have learned it heavily interacts with caffeine btw. So I switched to green tea yesterday. Maybe my hyper focus and often clouded with confusion maybe attributed to that interaction. I posted quite a bit more technical stuff on theendofmyaddiction in the October Check In of you want to see what gabapentin studies I've hashed out. Some people use it recreationally at up to 50000mg which is crazy. Yeah keep it simple if you don't want to get sucked in heavily by research.

                        24 more please.
                        Last edited by empyr3al; November 3, 2017, 09:52 AM.
                        "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." - Albert Einstein

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                          Been busy.....passed my first half of my exam test on bookkeeping 😊 24hrs for me please, thank you, hope everyone doing well xx
                          Formerly known as Teardrop:l
                          sober dry since 11th Jan '2010' relapse/slip on 23/7/13 working in progress ! Sober date 25/7/13 ( True learning has often followed an eclipse, a time of darkness, but with each cycle of my recovery, the light grows stronger and my vision is clearer. (AA)
                          my desire to avoid hitting bottom again was more powerful then my desire to drink !

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                            Re: ~cattleman cafe~ & another 24...

                            Quick check in for 24 more. Mom was in the hospital for the past 2 days with acute vertigo. She’s home now with me -still suffering bouts of dizzy. Thank God (and I do) for my sobriety. I’ll catch up when I can. Love to all. Catch - way to go girl on that exam!
                            Mary Lou

                            A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty. Winston Churchill

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                              Re: ~cattleman cafe~ & another 24...

                              Super quick run-by. 24 more please.

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                                Re: ~cattleman cafe~ & another 24...

                                Finished my last cig in pack this arvo. Dual quit for 24 . Was given a grant this week $300/week for next 11 months and a business course to go along with it. Has been fantastic to get out and share business ideas and strategies. Also been in a webinar on love and relationships. I guess the saying goes, if we don’t love ourselves or look after ourselves, how can we do the same for someone else? A very good learning week with more great self dev to come
                                Last edited by Neo; November 4, 2017, 06:12 AM.

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