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    Lots of stuff going through my head this morning, pondering a pm I received, the question from [MENTION=22409]Quit wining[/MENTION], and do I have anything of value to say to [MENTION=24196]Rava[/MENTION]… So I decided it best to log out, ponder things, and put my thoughts together in a Word doc first, so this might take a few hours for a foggy brained old feller like me…

    The pm I received was private, and I’ll keep it that way. And thank you to [MENTION=17650]paulywogg[/MENTION] for reminding me that pm’s are just that, private messages. But now I have question for all of you, take some time and think it over before you reply but I’d love to hear everyone’s opinion on what they think about online support forums and what you think you’ll get out of them.

    I joined because I needed something, I wasn’t quite sure what it was that I needed, but I knew it wasn’t AA. The reasons I joined and the reasons I stay have evolved, and will probably continue to evolve as time goes on. When I first joined, it was all about me, my problems and the support that I thought I needed to get and stay sober. I needed to be able to talk to and confide in people who understood what it meant to be an alcoholic, and to know how hard getting sober really is. It’s not so much about me anymore, although I have my days just like everyone else lol, but it’s about helping and supporting others. The only way I can do that is to rely on my past, what I went through, and what helped me get to where I am today.

    Interesting question about becoming just like our parent’s [MENTION=22409]Quit wining[/MENTION] and I think that we all carry some characteristic of our parents. I know I like to think I’m my own man, but every so often I’ll step back and say; geez, that’s exactly what my dad would have said or did. To be honest, I wish I was more like my dad, and that’s something I can work towards. And I think you’re right, Michael was talking about his Parkinson’s when he said what he did, but it can apply to just about everyone and the circumstances surrounding them.

    Three gulps and walk away, you’re a much stronger person than I am [MENTION=24196]Rava[/MENTION] because I know I couldn’t walk away after the first gulp, and that’s what stops me from taking it. Now the important lesson isn’t that you were able to have those three swallows and walk away, it’s about how you felt about yourself after taking those three gulps. Another lesson learned to add to your toolbox as you move forward…and I have no doubt at all that you’ll continue you grow in your sobriety…
    Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
    Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
    Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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      I thought your question about becoming our parents was an interesting one, QW. I wondered if your sister meant it as a compliment, an insult or just an observation. Both my parents possessed many fine qualities, but they weren't perfect by any stretch. But then again, who is?! I think I would be upset if I was told I was "just like" my mother. I'm not sure exactly why. Funny, isn't it! But of course we all tend to become more like our parents as we age and that makes complete sense.

      Cowboy, when I joined the forum I was desperate. I needed help but I didn't know where to get it. I didn't want to join AA because I was fearful of being seen or somehow found out. Mr. D was complaining about my drinking so it was becoming a problem in the marriage. I hoped that MWO would be my saving grace and in many ways it was. I learned a lot from the MWO book by R. Jewel, and from the forum in the early years. Lots of good information was shared as well as personal stories and support. I tried the supplements and the hypnosis CDs. I found so much comfort finding out I wasn't really so different or strange and that I was not alone!! I soon realized that MWO was just a help and a support but that I was ultimately up to me. I feel being with people who understand the problem from the inside out is a great help. No one else really can understand just how hard it can be to get sober. I am grateful to all the people who have shared their stories and have given encouragement here. I am especially grateful to you and people like you who write such honest and heartfelt posts.

      Well done Rava. I could not have walked away after 3 gulps. You should be grateful you teetered on the edge but drew back before you fell into the pit!

      Ginger, thank you for all the wonderful quotes you shared this week!

      24 more, please and thank you.
      Last edited by dill; June 23, 2019, 03:41 PM.
      Dill

      Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

      If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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        Great to read the discussion in response to the question I posed about becoming our parents.

        My Dad in many ways was a great man. He was proud of his kids, grandkids and great grandkids. But, he didn’t share those feelings with us. Maybe he found it difficult. I try to let our kids (including a wonderful daughter in law!) and grandkids know how much they’re loved at every opportunity. I’m sad that our kids don’t have many fond memories of my Dad but I’m doing everything I can to make sure they, and our grandkids, do have some fond memories of their grandparents.

        Dill, knowing my sister, she meant it as a compliment. She’s an amazing person and my hero. She’s been a doctor for over 30 years, raised 3 fine young people including a son with autism. As a result of the professional help he received in his younger days and with lots of love and support from his parents, he’s turned into a fine young man who is now an IT specialist with IBM. She’s a cancer survivor. After 23 years of marriage her husband left her after determining he could no longer hide being gay.
        She’s found her soulmate, a fellow doctor who loves to travel. Last year while we were escaping winter in Mexico, they were on a 14 day adventure in Antarctica. She’s coming with me to Australia in August to my youngest son’s wedding.
        So, Dill, I’m pretty sure she meant it in a positive way when she said that I’m like our Dad. She has commented frequently that we have great kids and grandkids who love their parents and grandparents. A good thing!

        QW
        Last edited by Quit wining; June 23, 2019, 04:49 PM.
        AF since 26-02-19 NF since 04-83
        F*ck PD, cancer, dementia & covid-19

        24/7/365

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          Good morning and hope everyone has a good Monday. Thanks for all the support during my moment of stupidity. I think what is most upsetting to me is how freaking easy it is to simply drink. More effort has to be put into not slipping up like that again. It caught me off guard but I still want to be sober more than drink again. I do not want to go back to guilt and remorse over my actions. I have a lot of things to be thankful for and don't want to slide backwards into the rabbit hole. Hope everyone has a great day!

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            Good for you [MENTION=24196]Rava[/MENTION]! The AV is a cunning monster indeed, but you were strong enough to overcome was before things got out of hand!

            Another 24 please and thank you!

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              “Many times we are our worst enemy. If we could learn to conquer ourselves, then we will have a much easier time overcoming the obstacles that are in front of us.” - Stephan Labossiere


              5:55am in Alberta, another 24 please, and thanks...

              Cool and cloudy, more rain on the way for most of the week.

              In the past 24 hours, these people have signed in for 24 hours of sobriety:
              [MENTION=24080]Jude58[/MENTION] [MENTION=24196]Rava[/MENTION] [MENTION=17650]paulywogg[/MENTION] [MENTION=20929]Ginger999[/MENTION] [MENTION=22409]Quit wining[/MENTION] [MENTION=7944]dill[/MENTION] abcowboy


              Today is going to be a darn good day not to drink!
              Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
              Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
              Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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                5:34 am in Vegas another 24
                I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                  Great quote!

                  [MENTION=24196]Rava[/MENTION], your comment about guilt and remorse struck home with me. I think feeling that self loathing is worse than any hang over and for me was the turning point. I hated myself when I drank, even when I didn't over do it. Thats a terrible place to be. Thankfully, we all know what we have to do to keep the guilt and remorse away!

                  I'll take another 24, please and thank you!

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                    Another 24 hours please & thank you.

                    Day 119, $1,785 not wasted.

                    We walked in beautiful sunshine this morning, rain and thunderstorms in the forecast for later.

                    Trying to line up lunch with our son the chef at a 50’s style diner tomorrow. I almost got a hernia from the milkshake I had last time there.

                    Have a great af Monday everyone!

                    QW
                    AF since 26-02-19 NF since 04-83
                    F*ck PD, cancer, dementia & covid-19

                    24/7/365

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                      Getting back to 'normal' here. It's a process!

                      24 more please and thank you.
                      Dill

                      Dont forget, you can: start late, start over, be unsure, try and fail AND STILL SUCCEED!

                      If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find an excuse.

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                        Such a true quote [MENTION=21602]abcowboy[/MENTION]!

                        Another 24 please and thank you!

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                          Good morning and happy Tuesday. Lots of sun today and humidity. I will take it over rain and clouds. Hope everyone has a great AF day. I plan on 24 more please and thanks!

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                            65F and sunny. First day in 10 with no rain, yea!
                            just trying to organize my life, still a job, after all the years of drinking.
                            it's a long process, but so worth it.
                            24 more here please.

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                              “I didn't get into trouble every time I drank, but every time I got into trouble I was drinking.” - Unknown


                              6:00am in Alberta, 24 more for me please, and thanks...

                              12C (54F) on this cloudy morning, more rain on the way.

                              In the past 24 hours, these people have signed in for 24 hours of sobriety:
                              [MENTION=24196]Rava[/MENTION] [MENTION=24080]Jude58[/MENTION] [MENTION=17650]paulywogg[/MENTION] [MENTION=20929]Ginger999[/MENTION] [MENTION=22409]Quit wining[/MENTION] [MENTION=7944]dill[/MENTION] abcowboy


                              Today is going to be a darn good day not to drink!
                              Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
                              Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
                              Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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                                When I first read this morning's quote I chuckled to myself and thought that could very well have been me who made it!
                                Quitting and staying quit isn't easy, its learning a whole new way of thinking. It's accepting a new way of life, and not just accepting it, embracing it...
                                Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Just get through today. Tomorrow will look after itself when it becomes today, because today is all we have to think about.
                                Friendship is not about how many friends you have or who you've known the longest. It's about who walked into your life, said "I'm here for you", and proved it.

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