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    Wow, what I woke up to here should be Recommended Reading for anyone who makes their way to a How Do I Quit Drinking? website! What an inspiring group of people you all are. Thank you.

    Originally posted by starty View Post
    Did you have many false starts NS? Did it stop you from picking up or limit the damage?
    There were many Day Ones before I joined MWO and in fact, some periods of apparent success during 2012. But - losing those stretches of weeks and even a couple months was devastating and made me hate/give up on myself even more. Because I knew I would never go to a meeting or rehab (unless court-ordered), I truly believed that joining MWO (an act that was very out of character and felt scary) was my "last chance". I was determined to make it work. I didn't realize it at the time, but my thinking had changed. I had already decided to no longer drink. But I needed an external support - like you said, I'd disappointed myself too many times to believe in myself.

    I no longer think it was my "last chance" - I could have changed my thinking at any time. But, I'm glad I felt that way at the time because it inspired me to use the heck out of MWO. I read and posted constantly and "changed my brain". I did think about not drinking all the time - but drinking had dominated my life before so that didn't really bother me and I felt good about the relationships I developed here (I'd cut off so many people in my real life).

    Coming back immediately and not letting this blow up into weeks or months of drinking shows you can trust yourself - you want to be healthy again. Now you just need to put systems in place so that you won't pay attention to the thoughts that lead you in the direction you don't want to take - eat the way that is best for you, use supplements, ask those around you to help, and speak up before you drink. People here will help you focus your attention where you want it to be.

    Originally posted by starty View Post
    Thank you for the reminder! I do have a big bag of it but had forgotten about it. How much should I take? And did you have it directly on your tongue or dissolve it?
    I used it as needed, not at a certain time daily - 500 mg capsule allowed to dissolve under the tongue. Repeat as needed. I still use it occasionally because like Kuya confessed :wink:, all of us have our thinking get off track from time to time. It doesn't occur to me to post about it when it happens because deep down, I'm confident that I won't drink. But maybe we all should - it reminds us that in this, we're all the same and thinking about drinking doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you or that you will do it. It's just a thought to to chuckle at, dismiss, and move on.

    :heart: NS

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      Nice dinners in fancy restaurants aren't the big deal I thought they were. An excuse to drink high quality wine in public seemed to be one and I did it every chance I got. We rarely dine out anymore...

      If I had known what my life without Stupid Wine would be like, and if I'd thought it would work, I would have admitted my problem and gone to rehab years ago - I was so buried in my secrets and denial, I couldn't imagine admitting what was happening and asking for help. What a scary and lonely life it was.

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        Me too Molls, I could have eaten or drank boiled shite if it gave me a buzz. One glass is never going to be me or one of anything come to think of it

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          I have spent the day watching you tube and positive stuff regarding nutrition. Also clearing the house of "illegal" stuff so in general preparing myself again.

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            Originally posted by mollyka
            yes --- but if you could have been a COMPLETELY normal drinker -- you know -- that rare breed that can take or leave that 2nd glass of wine - would you not have liked it?
            I guess that is the type of drinker I was from when I began in my mid-30s until sometime in my 40s. I don't remember liking the taste all that much or even enjoying the buzz. I drank because I bought into the notion that red wind was good for you (what a crock of BS that is) and I wanted to fit in/appear sophisticated in the academic crowd (another crock). I really don't remember actually liking anything about drinking red wine all that much (other than thinking I was doing something good for myself and feeling good about myself because I was "cool") until I started to realize I needed it - and the buzz. So then, I started to convince myself/believe that I really liked the taste and started buying into all the nonsense about overtones of berries and nutty undertones and the distinction between types of grapes and soil and all that wine crap that you can use to convince yourself that you drink almost as part of an intellectual hobby, not because you're a drug addict. That got me through several years of becoming progressively more and more addicted to the point that drinking directly from the spout of a box of cheap wine was not unusual. There was no interest in undertones or overtones at that point - it was a desperate attempt to quench a raging, uncontrollable desire.

            If there were a magic pill to take to make me a completely normal drinker now, I wouldn't be interested. I don't recall being one as all that great or memorable and I like my life now. I don't think I'm missing anything good. In fact, we're the lucky ones in many ways - we no longer "innocently" poison ourselves with something that no one would drink if they realized how toxic it really is and that would never be legal if introduced now for the first time.

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              7th-8th August 2008.....Day 2 and date of joining MWO...

              I have been trawling back through the very old posts and came across these from Starty and Jackie on my third day of my first quit.

              Me:
              Hi there,

              I'm new to this and still finding out how the site works. At the end of day 2, and wanted to say hello. I wrote in under the newbies nest forum as well.

              Regards, Sunbird

              From Starty....
              Hi Sunbird, Great going on Day 3!
              Your sleep patterns will sort themselves out over time but there are a few things you can try e.g. melatonin, keeping simulants like caffeine and nicotine to minimum, breathing or meditation exercises and chamomile tea to name but a few.
              Oh and here is the link to the toolbox thread you asked about https://www.mywayout.org/community/f1...box-27556.html
              Have a great day!

              and Jacky...
              Hi Sunbird,great going day 3.
              I'm on day 37 AF and still not sleeping very well. Even took a seasickness pill 'cause it causes drowsiness!
              Ask your chemist for any non-addictive sleeping aids.
              I'm going to try Kalms,I think Vlad suggested them in another post.
              Just rest when you can,be kind to yourself.
              We're all behind you.
              Cyber Hugs,
              Jackie xxx

              Can't tell you how grateful I was to find such warmth and genuine help back then

              ....and then I had a massive all fall down in December 2010...tripped over my slippers and knocked myself oyt on my side table in the bedroom!. Went to hospital in an Ambulance... my blood alcohol was 06 something...

              I gave up again(of course) and more or less up and down until Tony's death....and then I altogether stopped trying to stop drinking until Rehab!
              “It always seems impossible until it's done”
              ― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom by Nelson Mandela

              AF 1 July 2015

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                Ahh Sunnybirdy,
                I'm sure I've got one of my very first posts bookmarked somewhere..........I'll dig it out tomorrow...........then the feeling of relief when someone replied.
                It could be worse, I could be filing.
                AF since 7/7/2009

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                  Evening army. I had a nice afternoon out. Called to my sister who lives bout 5 mins walk from me and after the i picked up my script i called my sis in laws mobile and she was home with her son his wife and grand child so called to them as the apartment is just across from the pharmacy in Shankill. My brother was out but was great to a coffee and chat and see my lovely 19 month old great nephew his dad Graham and czech wife Petra they are lovely people i don't get to see them much as they live in Celbrigde Co. Kildare. Went to bray after and got the tea lights in euro world and had a look around Boots, tiger store and a few other shops then got a cappuchino in Starbucks. i was a bad binge drinker too and could go on for days weeks or months untill i was so ill i would stop for a while and say never again go to AA post on here and then relapse again. If i don't get my act together now and stay sober then i'm in big trouble health and sanity wise. I'm also scared to drink again. Wine was my main choice of poison with the odd beer and baileys but to honest i would have drank moonshine to get a buzz if i was on a bender.

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                    Ha Ha...oh no Molly...you must have been really scared and isolated!:hug:
                    “It always seems impossible until it's done”
                    ― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom by Nelson Mandela

                    AF 1 July 2015

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                      Sounds so lovely Molls. I remember Galway...Dad drove us across from Dublin to Galway Bay and then all around Southern Ireland. Beautiful!!!
                      “It always seems impossible until it's done”
                      ― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom by Nelson Mandela

                      AF 1 July 2015

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                        Wow, you've been here Molly? Grim and Tigger live in CT.
                        Did you have a good time? How long were you here?
                        Didn't you get to Kruger National Park?
                        “It always seems impossible until it's done”
                        ― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom by Nelson Mandela

                        AF 1 July 2015

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                          Evening..
                          Hows the manky knickers wan doing?Reading back, sounds like your getting back on track Starts.. Do you have to work tomorrow?

                          I must be the only one here who really liked the taste of wine (white).. granted, for the last few years, I was getting anything into me if I hadnt stocked up enough or to appear like a normal drinker ie: sly vodka/gin, then a few glasses of wine.
                          AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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                            Ahh Galway! Scene of the crime for 5 weeks a few years ago. 2 incredible Irish maidens, one in particular still has a piece of me aul latherin heart. Like you Sunny, me and the band travelled and played from Galway down the west coast and back. The craic was 98. Beautiful country, and the people you meet......................The women of Spidael come to mind. :heartbeat:

                            All the best to your young bloke Molly. Sounds like he'll be fine.

                            Thinking of you Starteroo!

                            'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

                            Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-

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                              Originally posted by Guitarista View Post
                              Ahh Galway! Scene of the crime for 5 weeks a few years ago. 2 incredible Irish maidens, one in particular still has a piece of me aul latherin heart. Like you Sunny, me and the band travelled and played from Galway down the west coast and back. The craic was 98. Beautiful country, and the people you meet......................The women of Spidael come to mind. :heartbeat:

                              All the best to your young bloke Molly. Sounds like he'll be fine.

                              Thinking of you Starteroo!
                              For you Mr G :
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3V-oXwCWL4

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                                Originally posted by satz123 View Post
                                Love it Satz! Sharon Shannon sat in and jammed with us at one gig. She's lovely.

                                'I am part of all that I have met, yet all experience is an arch wherethro', gleams that untravelled world whose margins fade, forever and forever when I move'

                                Zen soul Warrior. Freedom today-

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