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    #46
    Originally posted by NoSugar View Post
    see that the addictive drugs themselves are the cause of the problems. A couple of my friends were recently talking about some people we know who are addicted to pain pills and they perceive those people as the victims -- they were in pain and innocently became addicted to the prescribed medicines. But with alcohol, it's like we're perceived to be morally weak and at fault. Maybe it's because it's too uncomfortable to blame alcohol, which people want to consume without trepidation or guilt.
    This is SO true - and I tried so hard to get this point across at young Satz group therapy yesterday.
    Kept being interruped by one of them who decided to twist what I was saying around so much, so he could make his point as the poor put upon alkie, that I gave up.
    NS you've expressed it perfectly - I'll write that down .

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      #47
      Originally posted by IamMary View Post
      With you Molly -Not big into massages, facials or anything that involves sitting still. Nails, feet, even getting my hair done, just get on with it!
      I used to be like you Mary - used to want to take my head off & drop it in to the hairdresser.
      I must have mellowed - I like massage- not full body mind- but back & shoulder I could cope. LOVE facials.
      Still hate the hairdressers though - all that chit chat about nothing bores me.

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        #48
        Well .............. morning you lot.
        Should be at the gym but decided to give it a miss 'till tomorrow.

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          #49
          GERRUP!!!!!!!!

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            #50
            I am up!!! I have walked the doggers and done 45 squats and 40 leg lifts. I will save abs until tomorrow

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              #51
              Great chat about addiction. All so relevant and I can resonate with it all. Especially the thoughts that drive us back rather than the addiction itself.

              Anyone got any tips for menopause? I surely MUST be going through it at 52 however I am still regular (ish) sorry Tabbers

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                #52
                There's a hormone test you can get. FSH or something. But you may just sail through it.
                I sometimes think the menopause can add to the escalation of drinking around that age.

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                  #53
                  Morning lovelies, gorgeousnesses and all round jolly nice people.

                  Originally posted by starty View Post

                  Anyone got any tips for menopause? I surely MUST be going through it at 52 however I am still regular (ish) sorry Tabbers
                  Can't recommend Black Cohosh highly enough. Ringing Cedars put me onto it when I was adamant I wasn't going to take HRT.........two my cousins had horrible time once they came of it and I was just over a year or so AF and the thought of taking something manufactured just didn't appeal.

                  Black Cohosh for Menopause - Women Living Naturally
                  It could be worse, I could be filing.
                  AF since 7/7/2009

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                    #54
                    I think next time I see the quack I will ask for a test.

                    How does the Black Cohosh help you Jax?

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                      #55
                      Hi Starty,

                      Impressed with your exercise regime! I was just thinking last night that Id like to do Pilates or something, work on the Core (as they say).. Im ticking away at the cardio side by running, but I have no strength as such.
                      Cant help you with the Menopause yet. Have you any other symptoms?
                      AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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                        #56
                        I think Starts if you have no symptoms - don't go looking for them.
                        You'd know if you had them I'd say.
                        I only symptoms I had were getting drunk and sleeplessness
                        Oh and always hot - but I think that could have been the alcohol too.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by IamMary View Post
                          Hi Starty,

                          Impressed with your exercise regime! I was just thinking last night that Id like to do Pilates or something, work on the Core (as they say).. Im ticking away at the cardio side by running, but I have no strength as such.
                          Cant help you with the Menopause yet. Have you any other symptoms?
                          Just had to re-post this : :haha: I'm easily amused !!

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYRENWT8lz8

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by satz123 View Post
                            Just had to re-post this : :haha: I'm easily amused !!

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYRENWT8lz8
                            Haha, my youngest still sings this when she puts on her tracksuit bottoms!
                            We have added many more verses :nutso:
                            AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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                              #59
                              How's the mammy Satz?
                              AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by starty View Post
                                I think next time I see the quack I will ask for a test.

                                How does the Black Cohosh help you Jax?
                                It stopped me from killing people that I thought looked at me funny and bus drivers who were running late, and crying, and loosing my temper, hot flushes .......I could have set my clock at 10pm every night where I could have fuelled the National Grid for a week.........and it doesn't take long to kick in. Don't take it these days.
                                It could be worse, I could be filing.
                                AF since 7/7/2009

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