ARMY GARRISON GATES NOW OPEN 11th JANAURY 2016

[satz123]

Jax I am delighted you went out and had a great time. I have been invited to a party and have been thinking of every excuse why I can't go and this is in conflict with every reason why I should.

One question Starts
Do you want to go?

[satz123]

If you want to go and meet friends then have a plan and be happy with it.
If going will cause anxiety and they are all boring anyway -then decline politely.
You are #1 now ............. forget the HAVE TOs

[JackieClaire]

Good morning lovelies from a slightly deaf JC.
You are entitled to your opinion and if its how you feel then voice it, Molls.......don't go keeping your opinions to yourself............they're a bloody good starting point to a discussion.

I not sure if I'm in a unique position as I did all my AAing, white knuckling, counselling and I can do this myselfing before I finally posted here. I also have the volunteer place a couple of times a week which keeps me in touch with where I was and how far I've come and I get hugs.

I'll bet all of our eyes lit up with glee when after trawling the internet found a site that would help us have a few glasses now and again.............the ultimate dream.......but by taking a bunch of supps, medications (some of which are just not available or even banned in some countries) it was the only way we could do it. How many of us have the time or money to do that and by the way MWO has evolved its as clear as the nose on your face it doesn't work.

MWO is convenient...........I'm sitting here at 9 in the morning in my dressing gown..........lovely.

[JackieClaire]

And Starty just don't go............at this early stage it just not worth the torment.

[IamMary]

Good Morning..
So how was the gig JC?

I suspect the online Vs face to face discussion could go on and on. Bottom line for ME (''she is SO self centered'') is that I am still here on a Saturday morning with a clear head and very grateful to be able to say that.
Plus I would HATE to have to drag myself to an AA meeting in this weather! Last year I was trying to find AA online meetings, but didnt find much - I suppose that's not their strategy.

[satz123]

I'll bet all of our eyes lit up with glee when after trawling the internet found a site that would help us have a few glasses now and again.............the ultimate dream.......but by taking a bunch of supps, medications (some of which are just not available or even banned in some countries) it was the only way we could do it. How many of us have the time or money to do that and by the way MWO has evolved its as clear as the nose on your face it doesn't work.

MWO is convenient...........I'm sitting here at 9 in the morning in my dressing gown..........lovely.

I don't pretend to know as much as others on this site even after all this time. I was that person 3 years ago "trawling the internet and found a site that would help us have a few glasses now and again" But I learned that I was sliding down.
What I think I know is that there a many levels of the descent in the alcohol pit.
Some are sitting on the rim for years and may stay there - others went in head first, while others slowly slide down.
I'm a slider. My son is a jumper.

There is a stigma associated with problem drinking that drives people to seek an alternative solution to telling the doctor or admitting to anyone. MWO is AA in the true sense of the word -a group of alcoholics that are really anonymous.
If folk are serious about getting sober and MWO is not helping - then they need to get other help to face up to their problem.
If it is working - then stick here with the winners.

[JackieClaire]

Morning yous two,
It was incredible...........I know they were playing cover version of rock classics but they were excellent. It was like stepping back in time to being a long haired head banging teenager.

[starty]

I definitely wasn't calling people lazy -- I said it was a lazy way out -- much harder to go out and face the world -- all just my opinions tho - and I shall duly keep same opinions to myself -- laters x

Don't go off in a huff Molls. Opinions are the food of all healthy debate and I for one love them

[starty]

Good Morning..
So how was the gig JC?

I suspect the online Vs face to face discussion could go on and on. Bottom line for ME (''she is SO self centered'') is that I am still here on a Saturday morning with a clear head and very grateful to be able to say that.
Plus I would HATE to have to drag myself to an AA meeting in this weather! Last year I was trying to find AA online meetings, but didnt find much - I suppose that's not their strategy.

I don't even think it is about online v face to face. I think that online is another option that in some cases is as valuable as face to face

And yes this weather is not for sitting in a draughty church

[starty]

I think re the party.....I am conflicted because "normal" peeps go to parties and enjoy them. I feel abnormal cos I am happy in my warm little house with my doggers and my hubby and chatting to peeps online. I feel distinctly abnormal sometimes

[JackieClaire]

I think re the party.....I am conflicted because "normal" peeps go to parties and enjoy them. I feel abnormal cos I am happy in my warm little house with my doggers and my hubby and chatting to peeps online. I feel distinctly abnormal sometimes

If sitting with your dog in a cosy house with the lappy on your knee.............shove up I'll be abnormal beside you.

And by enjoy do you mean get drunk as skunks, think they're Pans People and go home with one shoe and mascara down their faces...........and that's just the men.

[starty]

That made me laugh out loud JC

No, not the getting drunk bit but socialising with people. And I loathe going out at night if I am honest. Happy to meet a friend in the day, go for a walk. But night.....I loathe it

[satz123]

I think re the party.....I am conflicted because "normal" peeps go to parties and enjoy them. I feel abnormal cos I am happy in my warm little house with my doggers and my hubby and chatting to peeps online. I feel distinctly abnormal sometimes

Totally get that Starts - but only abnormal when it comes to alcohol nothing else.
That is what I tried to tell the group the other night - we are a minority us recovering alkies - we've over stepped the mark of what is socially acceptable - and are abnormal - of course they do not know my history & thought I was having a go at them.................. FFS!!!

[satz123]

If sitting with your dog in a cosy house with the lappy on your knee.............shove up I'll be abnormal beside you.

And by enjoy do you mean get drunk as skunks, think they're Pans People and go home home with one shoe and mascara down their faces...........and that's just the men.

:hahaha:

[satz123]

That made me laugh out loud JC

No, not the getting drunk bit but socialising with people. And I loathe going out at night if I am honest. Happy to meet a friend in the day, go for a walk. But night.....I loathe it

Same here Starts - always did.
Now that the alcohol is not there to numb the pain - I can't be arsed
But I will go if there is yummy food ....... I'm not daft