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    Originally posted by kuya
    If we realise that our previous use of drugs was simply a mistaken attempt for happiness that can ONLY be found inside us we are EXTREMELY unlikely to become addicted again, to anything.
    Excellent post Kuya - I particularly love this quote above.
    Everything we do in life is an attempt make us feel good ....... we are happiness seeking beings ...... unfortunately we usually choose external things because of the constant bombardment from the media + subliminal learned behaviour in childhood.
    Last edited by satz123; July 31, 2016, 02:28 AM.

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      Originally posted by mollyka
      Morning Kuya -- and yes I see your points -- most of them -- and what I will say is I can only deal with my own personal relationship with my so called addiction.. in rehab (and in AA actually) a mantra or slogan that they propound is 'keep it simple' --- simple to me is -- I like to drink - I always liked to drink - over the years I started to drink far too much - at some stage I crossed a line and now I KNOW (from many dabblements in moderation) that I can't drink -- so I don't drink -- that doesn't make me unhappy however - after some years abstinence I have no wish to drink so therefore there is no sense of loss or sadness - however where I would (I think) deviate from what you say above is that I do believe lurking in dark corners of my brain ( or somewhere) is the possibility that I may one day awake and think having a drink is a good idea -- the day I have that drink I consider I will become somewhat powerless in relation to alcohol because I am an alcoholic --

      I think --- what you're saying is if I change my mindset around that the day I awake and decide to take that drink that it will not disempower me? tbh I'm not arsed -- I feel happy in myself -- my life is good and as long as I don't pick up that drink (and truly I have no wish to) there is no reason for life to take an about turn --

      if however there is some lingering hurt resentment anger -- yes of COURSE these things must be dealt with - another thought from rehab was that we are as sick as our secrets..... personally I don't feel I have any deep rooted problems that should be brought out and examined -- BUT -- I do believe I'm an addict - dunno the medical/scientific terms or anything -- but if I pick up a drink no matter how much work I may do on attitude - mental health - 3Ps - meditation - mindfulness - ANYTHING --- if I pick up a drink I will (if not immediately certainly down the road) end up as bad and worse as when I quit --- but you see - for me -- that's ok -- cos I have as much compunction to pick up a drink as I have to pick up an unexploded grenade and chew on it --- no interest -- no loss

      just simple --- but as I always say -- that's just me
      :welldone: Molls
      I've said it before : the wisdom on this site is priceless
      Last edited by satz123; July 31, 2016, 02:29 AM.

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        Off out for a sweaty hill walk which will give me natural endorphins :llama:

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          Morning,
          Lovely thought producing posts this morning.

          I may reply later but I'm zorsted.............Mr JC kept me awake half the night with his comings and goings..................how dare he. Poor sod was on call and had 3 call outs............he's just off to the last one. Seems like the female of the species has been having a fine Saturday Night/Early Sunday battering other people and generally causing many problems.

          Crikey Molls, you wrote all that on your phone .
          It could be worse, I could be filing.
          AF since 7/7/2009

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            Afternoon,

            Great posts. I was not expecting to use my brain on this lazy Sunday afternoon..
            Interesting. I was thinking about this yesterday.. looking at my cousins on the dance floor at the wedding on Friday night, few drinks, strutting their stuff, all inhibitions gone - I was envious - but no more than I was of the small kids, giving it socks, high on the music.
            Im not sure when it happened, maybe gradually over the past few months, I stopped feeling a bit sorry for myself.
            Sure, it would be preferable not to have had an obsession with AL, but Id also prefer to have a fantastic singing voice (or even an average one :haha and to be 2 inches taller and sure while Im at it, I can not understand why I am not a talented artist:furious:.

            Anyway, acceptance.. its a good place.

            Bit late now Molly, but I regret downloading Windows 10! everything is soooo slow now.
            AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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              Originally posted by JackieClaire View Post
              Morning,
              Lovely thought producing posts this morning.

              I may reply later but I'm zorsted.............Mr JC kept me awake half the night with his comings and goings..................how dare he. Poor sod was on call and had 3 call outs............he's just off to the last one. Seems like the female of the species has been having a fine Saturday Night/Early Sunday battering other people and generally causing many problems.

              Crikey Molls, you wrote all that on your phone .
              JC - he must have some fantastic stories coming home from work!
              AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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                Mary,I can't wait until I get to that point, it's weird cuz sometimes I get kinda jealous and other times I don't even care if peeps are drinking I'm still having fun, it's just those times when I'm preoccupied with the drinkingI can't even force myself to have fun that bug the hell outta me
                I have too much shit to do today and tomorrow to drink:sohappy:

                I'm taking care of the "tomorrow me":thumbsup:
                Drinkin won't help a damn thing! Will only make me sick for DAYS and that ugly, spacey dumb feeling-no thanks!

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                  Evening,
                  Meant to get back sooner but I decided to do the ironing and get a bit of house work done. The place was a tip.

                  I think I'm still on Windows 7. We'll be getting a new lap-top soon so I'll have to get used to the new one.

                  It will come, Pauly, and you're doing every thing right. Remember to be kind to yourself, give yourself a little hug when something goes right, a big hug when you're hacked off and keep talking.
                  It could be worse, I could be filing.
                  AF since 7/7/2009

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                    Originally posted by paulywogg View Post
                    Mary,I can't wait until I get to that point, it's weird cuz sometimes I get kinda jealous and other times I don't even care if peeps are drinking I'm still having fun, it's just those times when I'm preoccupied with the drinkingI can't even force myself to have fun that bug the hell outta me
                    I still have my moments Pauly, but not so much when Im with other people drinking. Focus on 'their' next day; hangover, dried out skin, lifeless eyes, appetite for shite and inability to function. And I fake it when all else fails, my brain usually falls for that one!
                    AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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                      Love the discussion here. Thank you.

                      I think the acceptance is what helped me a lot. I still get the occasional twinge - see a picture of a glass of champagne or margarita. But, it's so fleeting now......it just passes right thru lately. I saw a picture of a margarita, thought yummy, thought ugly feelings (many different ones at once - hands shaking, hangover, guilt, etc). And, I'm able to let it go. Thank goodness. But, again - I haven't really been tested. So, I'm just talking about something I don't even know.
                      "Only I can change my life. No one can do it for me.".....Carol Burnett
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                      AF - 7-27-15

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                        Nora your post...I saw a picture of a margarita, thought yummy, guess what ..me too!

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                        af since the fourth of July 2012...howzat then America..now proudly marching into year 12

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                          Yummy - and you even left the meat off for me.
                          "Only I can change my life. No one can do it for me.".....Carol Burnett
                          ..........
                          AF - 7-27-15

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                            Morning and white rabbits.
                            Imagine waking up now with the shame of another blinding hangover, wanting to eat Micks pizza to soak up the pain .

                            It's strictly a family day today, NO interruptions.
                            AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:

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                              bank holiday???????whats going on ?how come I havent got one of them?who else has got one? morning all...how are yizall goodly I hope...1st of August where has the year gone....

                              Pauly...and for you...howzit gaun(gawn) an at? glaswegian...how are you....
                              af since the fourth of July 2012...howzat then America..now proudly marching into year 12

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