Nutty days Satz:hug:
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Morning Molly,
Do you think had it been different, that you would have become more secretive? I know that's what I was like.. I was as obsessive about not being caught as I was about getting it into me.AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:Comment
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JC I didn't think of that but, Yes it is the first AF Tax and VAT returns - is it wrong to have found just one thing I preferred doing drunk? Oops, did I actually say that? Maybe I should keep that one to myself... And don't worry, I didn't!
The dogs are 2 border collies (Megan and Ben) and one Shih-Tzu (Holly) and guess which one rules the house?Last edited by tonyniceday; August 11, 2016, 04:59 AM.Comment
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Morning lovelies
Satz, love, as usual I agree with Molls. First things first.................look after you and then your Mum. Don't get caught as piggy in the middle.....it took me a very long time especially with Jenny that if she wanted to tell her Dad something to tell him straight away.............I wasn't her medium. Tell AJ you want to hear anything from his mouth.Originally posted by mollyka
Crikey Molls, that struck a cord with me.........exactly Mr JC and me. Mr JC rarely drinks in the house or even on our hols these days. Perhaps it was a case if I can't beat them join them.
Holly?Originally posted by tonyniceday View Post
So tell us how was your first AF tax and VAT forms...................we often talk about firsts, first parties...........first weddings............first night out with friends..............first Chrimbo but never an AF tax return :eek-new:
Just realised yesterday i saw the 3 most lovely men in my life, my brother popped in, the son and heir showed up and Mr JC. Love 'em to bits.It could be worse, I could be filing.
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I like that Ted talk, too, Satz -- now. I rejected it when I first saw it and didn't like Gabor Mate's take on things, either. Their work threatens the story I'd come to believe and feel comfortable about concerning addiction - that it is a physical illness/disease/problem due to genetics and inherent biochemistry and physiology and that the problem is only the drug (alchohol), not the unfortunate victim/ addict (me). I felt apart from my addiction and liked feeling that it wasn't my "fault" or my parents' fault or really, due to anything about me (my mind) but was simply a physical (body) problem.
Now that there's been sufficient time since the crisis phase of addiction/quitting, I'm finally ready to look at the more complete picture, stop trying to separate mind from body and individual from community, and accept that there were reasons I was susceptible to addiction and that my experiences and thoughts and feelings about them helped to create the physiology that was susceptible. I no longer feel the need to shift the blame from me to something external in order to accept what happened.
I can't say that I agree that w/ Hari that drugs aren't addictive. I think there is a chemical 'hook'; but, the fact that is doesn't hook everyone means there must be something about those that it catches. Mate makes compelling arguments for why all clinical problems - addiction, autoimmune disease, cancer, etc. - are due to psycho-social events. I'd add to that other environmental factors such as diet but the point is, we are changed by everything we experience and what affects our bodies affects our minds. It is a little daunting because you realize that everything matters. That felt overwhelming to me so I ran from it until Kuya came by and exposed us to the 3Ps. That understanding has made me not afraid to face the truth.
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Evening,
When I first started listening to this earlier on I had to stop after 4 minutes when he was talking patients taking gobs of diamorphine after a hip replacement or broken hip.........I know a few with new hips including and at the max its 24 hours usually 12 then onto ibuprofen or codiene if you ask nicely.........and I do know people from NA (Narcotics Anonymous) who would rather do without any pain relief than take diamorphine.
I did go back and listen to the rest and of course had to get into the mind set that although he was talking about drugs.......... alcohol comes under the same umbrella albeit the legal one.
I can actually see point about staying connected but in order for our own sanity we have take care of ourselves. Especially if we're addicts ourselves. Making sure all avenues of contact are open but on your terms.
Is it hereditary, learned behaviour, a new social norm............no idea.Last edited by JackieClaire; August 11, 2016, 01:10 PM.It could be worse, I could be filing.
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On a lighter note................just written a deliciously snotty e-mail to a company that should have delivered a sofa-bed 2 weeks ago. Luckily Mr JC came in so a nice bit of legalise was added.It could be worse, I could be filing.
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Sorry for the downer post, JC. Maybe being curious about something we can never really know is a waste of time anyway.
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Evening, I came across that clip before, its quite thought provoking. Agree with all above, other factors are at play too, how can they not be, genes, culture, yep lifestyle NS.. but like Molly says, its down to ourselves at the end of the day.
How can some people can drink normally for decades, before they cross the line and for others, its almost instant?
More pressing thoughts on my mind, how to survive sleeping in the tent for the next 3 days..sigh.AF - July 19th 2015 :happy2:Comment
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No need for apologies, love. To quote a certain Albert EinsteinOriginally posted by NoSugar View PostNecessity may be the mother of invention, but curiosity is the mother of discovery.It could be worse, I could be filing.
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where are you orf too?anywhere niceOriginally posted by mollykaaf since the fourth of July 2012...howzat then America..now proudly marching into year 12Comment
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Enjoy, yourself. Forgot Mers was away this weekend. Supposed to be lovely.Originally posted by mollyka
She never tells in case we find herOriginally posted by Mick View Post
It could be worse, I could be filing.
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